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		<title>By: Scott Horton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Horton</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Tom Westergaard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Westergaard</dc:creator>
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		<description>&quot;Bleichwehl said troops, facing scattered resistance, discovered a factory that produced &quot;explosively formed penetrators&quot; (EFPs), a particularly deadly type of explosive that can destroy a main battle tank and several weapons caches.&quot;

That paragraph is still in the boston.com version of the piece available on the web here:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/2007/04/06/iraqi_us_forces_sweep_through_iraqi_city/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/2007/04/06/iraqi_us_forces_sweep_through_iraqi_city/&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.wired.com/defense/2007/08/superbombs-the-.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;These comments&lt;/a&gt; also support the common knowledge that EFPs and IEDs are being manufactured inside Iraq:

Intelligence officials have long blamed Iran for supplying EFP parts, but this remains in doubt. In any case, as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.janes.com/defence/news/jid/jid070613_1_n.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Janes&lt;/a&gt; reports, even if the original technology came from Iran,

&lt;i&gt;....the knowledge required to manufacture and use EFPs may have become so widespread that Iranian assistance is no longer required.&lt;/i&gt;

According to London&#039;s Telegraph newspaper,

&lt;i&gt;The Ministry of Defence has attempted to play down the effectiveness of the weapons, suggesting that they are &quot;crude&quot; or &quot;improvised&quot; explosive devices which have killed British troops more out of luck than judgement.

However, this newspaper understands that Government scientists have established that the mines are precision-made weapons which have been turned on a lathe by craftsmen trained in the manufacture of munitions.&lt;/i&gt;

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At least &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/2007/04/06/iraqi_us_forces_sweep_through_iraqi_city/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;two EFP factories have since been found in Iraq&lt;/a&gt;, facilities which produced the thin copper &#039;lenses&#039; for EFPs.

- - - - - 

Journalist Andrew Cockburn reported in February that in November 2006 U.S. troops raiding a Baghdad machine shop had discovered a pile of copper discs &quot;stamped out as part of what was clearly an ongoing order.&quot;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.counterpunch.org/andrew02162007.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;In Iraq, Anyone Can Make a Bomb&quot;&lt;/a&gt;

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Generic quote from u.s. govt sources and the Establishment media:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;The Bush administration has accused Iran of providing the [EFP] technology to Shiite insurgents in Iraq.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

* OR, on the other hand the Shiites and anyone else in the world who wanted the information got it from American internet websites: *

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6510797.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Segmented kinetic energy explosively formed penetrator assembly&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; [Published 28 January 2003]

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20030177935.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Explosively Formed Penetrator (EFP) and Fragmenting Warhead&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; [Published 25 September 2003]

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4884506.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Remote detonation of explosive charges&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; [Published 05 December 1989]

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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lepoint.fr/actualites-monde/iran-etats-unis-drole-de-guerre-en-irak/924/0/210183&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Iran-Etats-Unis : drÃ´le de guerre en Irak&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

....C&#039;est lÃ  que nous rencontrons le major Scott A. Pettigrew, responsable du renseignement militaire amÃ©ricain pour la province de Diyala. Lui ne croit pas Ã  une connexion entre l&#039;Iran et Al-Qaeda. En fait, il contredit placidement la plupart des accusations qui circulent Ã  Washington contre l&#039;Iran. Â« Nous n&#039;avons jamais arrÃªtÃ© aucun agent iranien dans cette province et nous n&#039;avons jamais interceptÃ© de flux financier en provenance d&#039;Iran. Je n&#039;ai jamais vu aucune activitÃ© ni prÃ©sence de la Force Al-Qods. Je ne vois rien qui ressemble ici Ã  une guerre par procuration avec l&#039;Iran. Â» 

Roughly translated into English:

&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Iran-United States : Peculiarity of war in Iraq&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;....That&#039;s where we meet Major Scott A. Pettigrew, man in charge of American military intelligence for the province of Diyala.  He does not believe in a connection between Iran and Al-Qaeda.  Indeed, he calmly contradicts most of the accusations against Iran that circulate in Washington. &quot;We never stopped an Iranian agent in this province and we have never intercepted finances flowing [into Diyala province] from Iran.  I never saw activity of or the presence of the Al-Quds force.  I see nothing here that resembles a war by proxy with Iran.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Bleichwehl said troops, facing scattered resistance, discovered a factory that produced &#8220;explosively formed penetrators&#8221; (EFPs), a particularly deadly type of explosive that can destroy a main battle tank and several weapons caches.&#8221;</p>
<p>That paragraph is still in the boston.com version of the piece available on the web here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/2007/04/06/iraqi_us_forces_sweep_through_iraqi_city/" rel="nofollow">http://www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/2007/04/06/iraqi_us_forces_sweep_through_iraqi_city/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://blog.wired.com/defense/2007/08/superbombs-the-.html" rel="nofollow">These comments</a> also support the common knowledge that EFPs and IEDs are being manufactured inside Iraq:</p>
<p>Intelligence officials have long blamed Iran for supplying EFP parts, but this remains in doubt. In any case, as <a href="http://www.janes.com/defence/news/jid/jid070613_1_n.shtml" rel="nofollow">Janes</a> reports, even if the original technology came from Iran,</p>
<p><i>&#8230;.the knowledge required to manufacture and use EFPs may have become so widespread that Iranian assistance is no longer required.</i></p>
<p>According to London&#8217;s Telegraph newspaper,</p>
<p><i>The Ministry of Defence has attempted to play down the effectiveness of the weapons, suggesting that they are &#8220;crude&#8221; or &#8220;improvised&#8221; explosive devices which have killed British troops more out of luck than judgement.</p>
<p>However, this newspaper understands that Government scientists have established that the mines are precision-made weapons which have been turned on a lathe by craftsmen trained in the manufacture of munitions.</i></p>
<p>- &#8211; - &#8211; - </p>
<p>At least <a href="http://www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/2007/04/06/iraqi_us_forces_sweep_through_iraqi_city/" rel="nofollow">two EFP factories have since been found in Iraq</a>, facilities which produced the thin copper &#8216;lenses&#8217; for EFPs.</p>
<p>- &#8211; - &#8211; - </p>
<p>Journalist Andrew Cockburn reported in February that in November 2006 U.S. troops raiding a Baghdad machine shop had discovered a pile of copper discs &#8220;stamped out as part of what was clearly an ongoing order.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.counterpunch.org/andrew02162007.html" rel="nofollow">In Iraq, Anyone Can Make a Bomb&#8221;</a></p>
<p>- &#8211; - &#8211; -</p>
<p>Generic quote from u.s. govt sources and the Establishment media:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;The Bush administration has accused Iran of providing the [EFP] technology to Shiite insurgents in Iraq.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>* OR, on the other hand the Shiites and anyone else in the world who wanted the information got it from American internet websites: *</p>
<p><a href="http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6510797.html" rel="nofollow"><b>Segmented kinetic energy explosively formed penetrator assembly</b></a> [Published 28 January 2003]</p>
<p><a href="http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20030177935.html" rel="nofollow"><b>Explosively Formed Penetrator (EFP) and Fragmenting Warhead</b></a> [Published 25 September 2003]</p>
<p><a href="http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4884506.html" rel="nofollow"><b>Remote detonation of explosive charges</b></a> [Published 05 December 1989]</p>
<p>- &#8211; - &#8211; - </p>
<p><a href="http://www.lepoint.fr/actualites-monde/iran-etats-unis-drole-de-guerre-en-irak/924/0/210183" rel="nofollow"><b>Iran-Etats-Unis : drÃ´le de guerre en Irak</b></a></p>
<p>&#8230;.C&#8217;est lÃ  que nous rencontrons le major Scott A. Pettigrew, responsable du renseignement militaire amÃ©ricain pour la province de Diyala. Lui ne croit pas Ã  une connexion entre l&#8217;Iran et Al-Qaeda. En fait, il contredit placidement la plupart des accusations qui circulent Ã  Washington contre l&#8217;Iran. Â« Nous n&#8217;avons jamais arrÃªtÃ© aucun agent iranien dans cette province et nous n&#8217;avons jamais interceptÃ© de flux financier en provenance d&#8217;Iran. Je n&#8217;ai jamais vu aucune activitÃ© ni prÃ©sence de la Force Al-Qods. Je ne vois rien qui ressemble ici Ã  une guerre par procuration avec l&#8217;Iran. Â» </p>
<p>Roughly translated into English:</p>
<p><i><b>Iran-United States : Peculiarity of war in Iraq</b></i></p>
<p><i>&#8230;.That&#8217;s where we meet Major Scott A. Pettigrew, man in charge of American military intelligence for the province of Diyala.  He does not believe in a connection between Iran and Al-Qaeda.  Indeed, he calmly contradicts most of the accusations against Iran that circulate in Washington. &#8220;We never stopped an Iranian agent in this province and we have never intercepted finances flowing [into Diyala province] from Iran.  I never saw activity of or the presence of the Al-Quds force.  I see nothing here that resembles a war by proxy with Iran.&#8221;</i></p>
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