Comments on: John Hagee http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/05/john-hagee/ Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:37:10 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: david http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/05/john-hagee/comment-page-2/#comment-173773 david Sun, 04 Oct 2009 02:17:23 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/05/john-hagee/#comment-173773 i am glad you all have this figured out. what a bunch of idiots you all are. i suppose you believe the secret as well. what fools you all are. why don't you study prophecy and point out some inaccuracies instead of inundating us with a bunch of ignorant chatter. oh i forgot, you are a bunch of anointed liberal know it alls. I guess you all got stuck somewhere along the way in evolution and are just a bunch of chest beating silverbacks ranting and raving at the floor of the jungle you live in. woo woo ya baby. I am blessed to be at the top and see you for what you are. Simple minds you all have and are easily deceived. You are in all actuality the cattle that you would profess Hagee to be. I am sure I anger you. You don't anger me. I get a laugh out of you. Good luck to you, you'll need it. i am glad you all have this figured out. what a bunch of idiots you all are. i suppose you believe the secret as well. what fools you all are. why don't you study prophecy and point out some inaccuracies instead of inundating us with a bunch of ignorant chatter. oh i forgot, you are a bunch of anointed liberal know it alls. I guess you all got stuck somewhere along the way in evolution and are just a bunch of chest beating silverbacks ranting and raving at the floor of the jungle you live in. woo woo ya baby. I am blessed to be at the top and see you for what you are. Simple minds you all have and are easily deceived. You are in all actuality the cattle that you would profess Hagee to be. I am sure I anger you. You don't anger me. I get a laugh out of you. Good luck to you, you'll need it.

]]> By: Elimelech http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/05/john-hagee/comment-page-2/#comment-164786 Elimelech Tue, 25 Nov 2008 00:21:14 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/05/john-hagee/#comment-164786 FYI : What you fail to mention is that Katrina was a Grade 1 when it hit Florida, not even your average tornado at that point. Sleep well. FYI : What you fail to mention is that Katrina was a Grade 1 when it hit Florida, not even your average tornado at that point. Sleep well.

]]> By: Jason Keil http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/05/john-hagee/comment-page-1/#comment-164676 Jason Keil Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:34:33 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/05/john-hagee/#comment-164676 Thought you may find this video of interest... http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=842358cfb2b6df574426 Thought you may find this video of interest…

http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=842358cfb2b6df574426

]]> By: DR WIES http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/05/john-hagee/comment-page-2/#comment-162726 DR WIES Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:36:00 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/05/john-hagee/#comment-162726 You will see the real Hagee soon! My heart goes out to the people who follow him! I pray they will see the truth real soon. You will see the real Hagee soon! My heart goes out to the people who follow him! I pray they will see the truth real soon.

]]> By: Sid http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/05/john-hagee/comment-page-2/#comment-161268 Sid Thu, 18 Sep 2008 06:39:55 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/05/john-hagee/#comment-161268 Ha ha ha ha sorry but i just loved this comment. One thing is true he talks shit, seriosuly the guy needs a lesson in reality check. Ha ha ha ha sorry but i just loved this comment.

One thing is true he talks shit, seriosuly the guy needs a lesson in reality check.

]]> By: sj padron http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/05/john-hagee/comment-page-1/#comment-153832 sj padron Fri, 30 May 2008 21:57:43 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/05/john-hagee/#comment-153832 I agree Braxton McLain,and alot are looking past the truth of that. I agree Braxton McLain,and alot are looking past the truth of that.

]]> By: rob http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/05/john-hagee/comment-page-1/#comment-153709 rob Wed, 28 May 2008 21:40:08 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/05/john-hagee/#comment-153709 Many thanks Mr. Farris for yor excellent work on dispensationalism. I have just completed a profitable three hours studying much of your material, and the information presented there is comprehensive and well written. Many years ago, having earlier been exposed to the "Ryrie Study Bible" at an early age, I seriously considered attending Dallas Seminary. At that time, I had received a limited exposure to various views on eschatology, and was simply uninformed about any alternatives to dispensationalism. I think that many Christians today, as I was then, are simply uninformed about the options avaiable in the study of eschatology. Your web-site is a brilliant resource for anyone who wishes to become well-informed about dispensationalism. Many thanks Mr. Farris for yor excellent work on dispensationalism. I have just completed a profitable three hours studying much of your material, and the information presented there is comprehensive and well written. Many years ago, having earlier been exposed to the “Ryrie Study Bible” at an early age, I seriously considered attending Dallas Seminary. At that time, I had received a limited exposure to various views on eschatology, and was simply uninformed about any alternatives to dispensationalism. I think that many Christians today, as I was then, are simply uninformed about the options avaiable in the study of eschatology. Your web-site is a brilliant resource for anyone who wishes to become well-informed about dispensationalism.

]]> By: rob http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/05/john-hagee/comment-page-2/#comment-153695 rob Wed, 28 May 2008 15:30:09 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/05/john-hagee/#comment-153695 Hagee uses an erroneous hermeneutic to interpret Genesis 12:3, which applies to spiritual Israel, not natural Israel (see John 8:37-44, Galatians 3:5-14, and Philippians 3:1-8). Natural Jewish heritage does not qualify a person for God's special favor. Hagee uses an erroneous hermeneutic to interpret Genesis 12:3, which applies to spiritual Israel, not natural Israel (see John 8:37-44, Galatians 3:5-14, and Philippians 3:1-8). Natural Jewish heritage does not qualify a person for God’s special favor.

]]> By: rob http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/05/john-hagee/comment-page-1/#comment-153693 rob Wed, 28 May 2008 15:16:01 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/05/john-hagee/#comment-153693 Excellent points, Bill. John Hagee represents a much larger group (including, Hal Lindsey, Tim LaHaye, John Ankerberg, etc.) who, in my opionion, mistakenly apply Genesis 12:3 to natural Israel (i.e., modern-day political Israel), whereas Genesis 12:3 actually applies, I believe, to spiritual Israel (i.e., the church composed of both Jewish and Gentile believers). Many Bible scholars assert that the Apostle Paul, e.g., in Galatians and Romans, makes this point very clearly, that Genesis 12:3 should be interpreted as having a spiritual application, not a natural application. This is critical, because Hagee of course uses this highly dubious natural interpretation of Genesis 12:3 as grounds for his pro-Israel military policies. Christian Zionists also fall into a similar error of applying Old Testament prophecies of Israel's return (e.g., Ezekiel 39:25-29) to Israel's natural re-establishment in 1948. However, a careful study of such prophecies will strongly suggest that they cannot apply to natural Israel in 1948, but apply, rather (as does Genesis 12:3), to spiritual Israel. Hagee should explain how modern-day, natural Israeli citizens can be both "the apple of God's eye" and yet under a curse due to their vehement renunciation of Christ (John 5:23). Both Jesus Himself (in John 8:37-44) and Paul (in Philippians 3:1-8) clearly indicate that one's natural Jewish heritage does not secure special favor with God. This point was evident even in Old Testament times, as seen in the history of God's judgment against natural Israel. The U.S. military and political establishment should therefore approach Israel based purely on our geopolitical interests, as we would any other country. Hagee implies that God will "curse" the U.S. if we fail to uniformly support Israel. There are no Biblical grounds for such a position. Excellent points, Bill. John Hagee represents a much larger group (including, Hal Lindsey, Tim LaHaye, John Ankerberg, etc.) who, in my opionion, mistakenly apply Genesis 12:3 to natural Israel (i.e., modern-day political Israel), whereas Genesis 12:3 actually applies, I believe, to spiritual Israel (i.e., the church composed of both Jewish and Gentile believers).

Many Bible scholars assert that the Apostle Paul, e.g., in Galatians and Romans, makes this point very clearly, that Genesis 12:3 should be interpreted as having a spiritual application, not a natural application. This is critical, because Hagee of course uses this highly dubious natural interpretation of Genesis 12:3 as grounds for his pro-Israel military policies.

Christian Zionists also fall into a similar error of applying Old Testament prophecies of Israel’s return (e.g., Ezekiel 39:25-29) to Israel’s natural re-establishment in 1948. However, a careful study of such prophecies will strongly suggest that they cannot apply to natural Israel in 1948, but apply, rather (as does Genesis 12:3), to spiritual Israel.

Hagee should explain how modern-day, natural Israeli citizens can be both “the apple of God’s eye” and yet under a curse due to their vehement renunciation of Christ (John 5:23). Both Jesus Himself (in John 8:37-44) and Paul (in Philippians 3:1-8) clearly indicate that one’s natural Jewish heritage does not secure special favor with God. This point was evident even in Old Testament times, as seen in the history of God’s judgment against natural Israel.

The U.S. military and political establishment should therefore approach Israel based purely on our geopolitical interests, as we would any other country. Hagee implies that God will “curse” the U.S. if we fail to uniformly support Israel. There are no Biblical grounds for such a position.

]]> By: sj padron http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/05/john-hagee/comment-page-1/#comment-153485 sj padron Mon, 26 May 2008 09:19:25 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/05/john-hagee/#comment-153485 "So we are even more confident of the message proclaimed by the prophets. You will do well to pay attention to it, because it is like a lamp shining in a dark place until the Day dawns and the light of the morning star shines in your hearts. Above all else, however, remember that no one can explain by himself a prophecy in the Scriptures. For no prophetic message ever came just from the will of man, but men were under the control of the Holy Spirit as they spoke the message that came from God. 2 Peter 1:19-21 “So we are even more confident of the message proclaimed by the prophets. You will do well to pay attention to it, because it is like a lamp shining in a dark place until the Day dawns and the light of the morning star shines in your hearts. Above all else, however, remember that no one can explain by himself a prophecy in the Scriptures. For no prophetic message ever came just from the will of man, but men were under the control of the Holy Spirit as they spoke the message that came from God. 2 Peter 1:19-21

]]> By: sj padron http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/05/john-hagee/comment-page-1/#comment-153484 sj padron Mon, 26 May 2008 09:05:56 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/05/john-hagee/#comment-153484 Rojelio, pay no attenton to Comment by the man... " Do not be ashamed of witnessing for our Lord; take your part in suffering for the Good News, as God gives you streng for it. He saved us and called us to be His own people, not because of what we have done, but because of His own purpose and grace." 2 Timothy 1:8-9 Rojelio, pay no attenton to Comment by the man… ” Do not be ashamed of witnessing for our Lord; take your part in suffering for the Good News, as God gives you streng for it. He saved us and called us to be His own people, not because of what we have done, but because of His own purpose and grace.” 2 Timothy 1:8-9

]]> By: sj padron http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/05/john-hagee/comment-page-2/#comment-153482 sj padron Mon, 26 May 2008 08:23:49 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/05/john-hagee/#comment-153482 "Therefore, the One whom you worship without knowing, Him I proclaim to you: God who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands. Nor is He worshiped with men's hands, as though He needed anything, since He gives life to all, breath, and all things. And He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on the face of the earth, and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of thier dwellings, so that they should seek the Lord, in hope that they might grope for Him and find Him , though He is not far from each one of us; for in Him we live move and have our being, as also some of your own poets have said,'For we are also His offspring'. Therefore, since we are the offspring of God, we ought not think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, something shaped by art and man's devising. Truly these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent, because He has appointed a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness by the Man whom He has ordained. He has given assurance of this to all by raising Him from the dead." Acts 17:23-31 Amen “Therefore, the One whom you worship without knowing, Him I proclaim to you: God who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands. Nor is He worshiped with men’s hands, as though He needed anything, since He gives life to all, breath, and all things. And He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on the face of the earth, and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of thier dwellings, so that they should seek the Lord, in hope that they might grope for Him and find Him , though He is not far from each one of us; for in Him we live move and have our being, as also some of your own poets have said,’For we are also His offspring’. Therefore, since we are the offspring of God, we ought not think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, something shaped by art and man’s devising. Truly these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent, because He has appointed a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness by the Man whom He has ordained. He has given assurance of this to all by raising Him from the dead.” Acts 17:23-31 Amen

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