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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ohhhh I think I get it... If we -say- it didn't happen, we're being ignorant and dangerous... But if we say it -isn't- happening, we're just... looking on the sunny side of life!

"Always look on the briiiiiiiiiiiiiiight siiiiiide of life!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ohhhh I think I get it&#8230; If we -say- it didn&#8217;t happen, we&#8217;re being ignorant and dangerous&#8230; But if we say it -isn&#8217;t- happening, we&#8217;re just&#8230; looking on the sunny side of life!</p>
<p>&#8220;Always look on the briiiiiiiiiiiiiiight siiiiiide of life!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/10/bush-stands-up-for-genocide/#comment-13424</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 04:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Rep. Sherman said it himself: we cannot offer genocide denial as a perk of friendship. If Turkey is our friend, are we supposed to look the other way when this issue comes up? PATHETIC. If the US truly wants Turkey to become a democracy like the rest of Europe, then Turkey must come to grips with what it has done in the past. The United States is just doing what the rest of Europe and the rest of the world has already done with passing this resolution. Its a message, "Turkey, genocide denial will not be tolerated, and you cannot just omit your history because it makes you look bad". I don’t want the United States (my country) to be an accomplice to this campaign of genocide denial. This resolution is long, long overdue!

Furthermore, some arguments exist basing off the premise that Turkey is strategically and geographically essential to US foreign policy. If this is true (and well  think its blown up way more than it is) then it still does not get in the way of this resolution because frankly, I resent the fact that the Turkey is holding the truth hostage. Congressman Albio Sires could not have said it better when he said, “I feel like I have a Turkish sward over my head somehow if I vote the wrong way here. And I don’t like that feeling”.
Turkish policy will reflect its own interests, not the interests of the US. For example, Turkey blocked military operations to the United States in 2003 when the military was strategizing the war in Iraq. This was 30 months after president Clinton persuaded Dennis Hastert to keep the Genocide Resolution off of the House floor. Let me remind you that Turkey did undermine our war effort even before the Genocide Resolution was even on the table and shortly after the last attempt for the resolution was shot down.. Should the US deny rights to the silenced and oppressed because we don’t want to agitate an ally? If Turkey is a true ally, then it would not hold conditions to friendship. 
Finally, let me remind you that Turkey has threatened other countries the same way they are threatening the US when these other countries passed these resolutions. Economic trade between countries who have passed resolutions despite threats from Turkey have not gone down, but in fact they have gone up (after France passed a resolution, trade went up 225% and that is just one of the many examples of how Turkey is an artist at formulating these false threats it knows it cannot possible follow through with)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Rep. Sherman said it himself: we cannot offer genocide denial as a perk of friendship. If Turkey is our friend, are we supposed to look the other way when this issue comes up? PATHETIC. If the US truly wants Turkey to become a democracy like the rest of Europe, then Turkey must come to grips with what it has done in the past. The United States is just doing what the rest of Europe and the rest of the world has already done with passing this resolution. Its a message, &#8220;Turkey, genocide denial will not be tolerated, and you cannot just omit your history because it makes you look bad&#8221;. I don’t want the United States (my country) to be an accomplice to this campaign of genocide denial. This resolution is long, long overdue!</p>
<p>Furthermore, some arguments exist basing off the premise that Turkey is strategically and geographically essential to US foreign policy. If this is true (and well  think its blown up way more than it is) then it still does not get in the way of this resolution because frankly, I resent the fact that the Turkey is holding the truth hostage. Congressman Albio Sires could not have said it better when he said, “I feel like I have a Turkish sward over my head somehow if I vote the wrong way here. And I don’t like that feeling”.<br />
Turkish policy will reflect its own interests, not the interests of the US. For example, Turkey blocked military operations to the United States in 2003 when the military was strategizing the war in Iraq. This was 30 months after president Clinton persuaded Dennis Hastert to keep the Genocide Resolution off of the House floor. Let me remind you that Turkey did undermine our war effort even before the Genocide Resolution was even on the table and shortly after the last attempt for the resolution was shot down.. Should the US deny rights to the silenced and oppressed because we don’t want to agitate an ally? If Turkey is a true ally, then it would not hold conditions to friendship.<br />
Finally, let me remind you that Turkey has threatened other countries the same way they are threatening the US when these other countries passed these resolutions. Economic trade between countries who have passed resolutions despite threats from Turkey have not gone down, but in fact they have gone up (after France passed a resolution, trade went up 225% and that is just one of the many examples of how Turkey is an artist at formulating these false threats it knows it cannot possible follow through with)</p>
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		<title>By: swansong</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/10/bush-stands-up-for-genocide/#comment-12700</link>
		<dc:creator>swansong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 06:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zia Golkalp was not a "racialist"; the reader is advised to read a book by a real scholar on these matters, Guenter Lewy  ("The Armenian Massacres in Ottoman Turkey: A Disputed Genocide") instead of the propaganda of Taner Akcam. In the thick of war, the Turks were going to "Turkify" Kurds and Arabs? The better question is, why didn't the Turks try to exterminate them and other non-Turks, if the reason for killing Armenians was that they weren't Turks? 

There is no evidence for extermination of Armenians. The reason why Armenians were resettled was because they joined their nation's enemies during a time of war, following some forty years of seditious activity and violence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zia Golkalp was not a &#8220;racialist&#8221;; the reader is advised to read a book by a real scholar on these matters, Guenter Lewy  (&#8221;The Armenian Massacres in Ottoman Turkey: A Disputed Genocide&#8221;) instead of the propaganda of Taner Akcam. In the thick of war, the Turks were going to &#8220;Turkify&#8221; Kurds and Arabs? The better question is, why didn&#8217;t the Turks try to exterminate them and other non-Turks, if the reason for killing Armenians was that they weren&#8217;t Turks? </p>
<p>There is no evidence for extermination of Armenians. The reason why Armenians were resettled was because they joined their nation&#8217;s enemies during a time of war, following some forty years of seditious activity and violence.</p>
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		<title>By: swansong</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/10/bush-stands-up-for-genocide/#comment-12697</link>
		<dc:creator>swansong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 06:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Four thousand years? PBS's "The Armenian Genocide" program, entirely prepared by Armenian propagandists, settled at 2,500 years.

No Armenian was expulsed from these areas, and all were free to return if they chose to. There were 644,900 left in the empire in 1921, according to the Armenian Patriarch, from an original population of 1.5 million. (Half a million had left on their own accord to other lands.) If Armenians felt they had to leave because of the terrible crimes they committed against the Muslim and Jewish populations, that was their choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Four thousand years? PBS&#8217;s &#8220;The Armenian Genocide&#8221; program, entirely prepared by Armenian propagandists, settled at 2,500 years.</p>
<p>No Armenian was expulsed from these areas, and all were free to return if they chose to. There were 644,900 left in the empire in 1921, according to the Armenian Patriarch, from an original population of 1.5 million. (Half a million had left on their own accord to other lands.) If Armenians felt they had to leave because of the terrible crimes they committed against the Muslim and Jewish populations, that was their choice.</p>
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		<title>By: swansong</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/10/bush-stands-up-for-genocide/#comment-12664</link>
		<dc:creator>swansong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 04:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whereas there is no proof that the Armenians who were killed were systematically killed by the Ottoman government (killers were lawless bands and other loose cannons), it is fairly evident that the mass killings perpetrated by Armenians, while they were in control of eastern Anatolia on and off from 1915-20, with and without their Russian (and later French) allies, &lt;b&gt;was&lt;/b&gt; systematic. We have firsthand reports from Russian and French officers testifying to the terrible crimes the Armenians perpetrated, and even a great friend of the Armenians, General Harbord, acknowledged the mass slaughter upon defenseless Ottoman villagers, including Muslims and Jews. This was the real genocide (as far as the 1948 U.N. Convention definition of genocide; there was demonstrable intent, and the victims were entirely innocent, not part of any political group, as were the Armenians who had allied themselves with the enemies of their Ottoman nation at war) of that period, but of course, it is unknown; Armenian propaganda and western prejudice is too overpowering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whereas there is no proof that the Armenians who were killed were systematically killed by the Ottoman government (killers were lawless bands and other loose cannons), it is fairly evident that the mass killings perpetrated by Armenians, while they were in control of eastern Anatolia on and off from 1915-20, with and without their Russian (and later French) allies, <b>was</b> systematic. We have firsthand reports from Russian and French officers testifying to the terrible crimes the Armenians perpetrated, and even a great friend of the Armenians, General Harbord, acknowledged the mass slaughter upon defenseless Ottoman villagers, including Muslims and Jews. This was the real genocide (as far as the 1948 U.N. Convention definition of genocide; there was demonstrable intent, and the victims were entirely innocent, not part of any political group, as were the Armenians who had allied themselves with the enemies of their Ottoman nation at war) of that period, but of course, it is unknown; Armenian propaganda and western prejudice is too overpowering.</p>
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		<title>By: swansong</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/10/bush-stands-up-for-genocide/#comment-12663</link>
		<dc:creator>swansong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 04:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In actuality, Turks and Armenians got along harmoniously for 600 years until Armenian extrmeists began stirring the pot in the 19th century, committing massacres to incite the same, hoping to invite European imperialists in, and to give Armenians free hand-outs. When this policy failed, the new strategy became to ally themselves with Ottoman enemies, at a time of war. 

Whereas there is no proof that the Armenians who were killed were systematically killed by the Ottoman government (killers were lawless bands and other loose cannons), it is fairly evident that the mass killings perpetrated by Armenians, while they were in control of eastern Anatolia on and off from 1915-20, with and without their Russian (and later French) allies, &lt;b&gt;was&lt;/b&gt; systematic. We have firsthand reports from Russian and French officers testifying to the terrible crimes the Armenians perpetrated, and even a great friend of the Armenians, General Harbord, acknowledged the mass slaughter upon defenseless Ottoman villagers, including Muslims and Jews. This was the real genocide (as far as the 1948 U.N. Convention definition of genocide; there was demonstrable intent, and the victims were entirely innocent, not part of any political group, as were the Armenians who had allied themselves with the enemies of their Ottoman nation at war) of that period, but of course, it is unknown; Armenian propaganda and western prejudice is too overpowering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In actuality, Turks and Armenians got along harmoniously for 600 years until Armenian extrmeists began stirring the pot in the 19th century, committing massacres to incite the same, hoping to invite European imperialists in, and to give Armenians free hand-outs. When this policy failed, the new strategy became to ally themselves with Ottoman enemies, at a time of war. </p>
<p>Whereas there is no proof that the Armenians who were killed were systematically killed by the Ottoman government (killers were lawless bands and other loose cannons), it is fairly evident that the mass killings perpetrated by Armenians, while they were in control of eastern Anatolia on and off from 1915-20, with and without their Russian (and later French) allies, <b>was</b> systematic. We have firsthand reports from Russian and French officers testifying to the terrible crimes the Armenians perpetrated, and even a great friend of the Armenians, General Harbord, acknowledged the mass slaughter upon defenseless Ottoman villagers, including Muslims and Jews. This was the real genocide (as far as the 1948 U.N. Convention definition of genocide; there was demonstrable intent, and the victims were entirely innocent, not part of any political group, as were the Armenians who had allied themselves with the enemies of their Ottoman nation at war) of that period, but of course, it is unknown; Armenian propaganda and western prejudice is too overpowering.</p>
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		<title>By: swansong</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/10/bush-stands-up-for-genocide/#comment-12662</link>
		<dc:creator>swansong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 03:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush hasn't lost his morality... at least not on this issue! He has conceded overall Armenian claims in the past short of using the word "genocide." The Armenians in America form too powerful a political bloc for any politician to ignore, elected or not. 

As far as Vahagn's forgiveness is concerned, do not forget that the tragic events of those years went both ways. Whereas there is no proof that the Armenians who were killed were systematically killed by the Ottoman government (killers were lawless bands and other loose cannons), it is fairly evident that the mass killings perpetrated by Armenians, while they were in control of eastern Anatolia on and off from 1915-20, with and without their Russian (and later French) allies, &lt;b&gt;was&lt;/b&gt; systematic. We have firsthand reports from Russian and French officers testifying to the terrible crimes the Armenians perpetrated, and even a great friend of the Armenians, General Harbord, acknowledged the mass slaughter upon defenseless Ottoman villagers, including Muslims and Jews. This was the real genocide (as far as the 1948 U.N. Convention definition of genocide; there was demonstrable intent, and the victims were entirely innocent, not part of any political group, as were the Armenians who had allied themselves with the enemies of their Ottoman nation at war) of that period, but of course, it is unknown; Armenian propaganda and western prejudice is too overpowering.

Note that nobody is asking the Armenian government to confess to their crimes (today's Dashnak government is directly related to the terrorists who were in charge back then. Vahagn is incorrect in tying in today's Turkish government with the Ottoman government with writing "their crimes," since the Ottoman government was overthrown and abolished by the modern Turkish government) although it certainly would be proper for Armenia and Armenians to do so. Unfortunately, these parties are too deeply immersed in the idea of victimhood, and it seems they will never confess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush hasn&#8217;t lost his morality&#8230; at least not on this issue! He has conceded overall Armenian claims in the past short of using the word &#8220;genocide.&#8221; The Armenians in America form too powerful a political bloc for any politician to ignore, elected or not. </p>
<p>As far as Vahagn&#8217;s forgiveness is concerned, do not forget that the tragic events of those years went both ways. Whereas there is no proof that the Armenians who were killed were systematically killed by the Ottoman government (killers were lawless bands and other loose cannons), it is fairly evident that the mass killings perpetrated by Armenians, while they were in control of eastern Anatolia on and off from 1915-20, with and without their Russian (and later French) allies, <b>was</b> systematic. We have firsthand reports from Russian and French officers testifying to the terrible crimes the Armenians perpetrated, and even a great friend of the Armenians, General Harbord, acknowledged the mass slaughter upon defenseless Ottoman villagers, including Muslims and Jews. This was the real genocide (as far as the 1948 U.N. Convention definition of genocide; there was demonstrable intent, and the victims were entirely innocent, not part of any political group, as were the Armenians who had allied themselves with the enemies of their Ottoman nation at war) of that period, but of course, it is unknown; Armenian propaganda and western prejudice is too overpowering.</p>
<p>Note that nobody is asking the Armenian government to confess to their crimes (today&#8217;s Dashnak government is directly related to the terrorists who were in charge back then. Vahagn is incorrect in tying in today&#8217;s Turkish government with the Ottoman government with writing &#8220;their crimes,&#8221; since the Ottoman government was overthrown and abolished by the modern Turkish government) although it certainly would be proper for Armenia and Armenians to do so. Unfortunately, these parties are too deeply immersed in the idea of victimhood, and it seems they will never confess.</p>
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		<title>By: swansong</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/10/bush-stands-up-for-genocide/#comment-12660</link>
		<dc:creator>swansong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 03:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as Vahagn's forgiveness is concerned, do not forget that the tragic events of those years went both ways. Whereas there is no proof that the Armenians who were killed were systematically killed by the Ottoman government (killers were lawless bands and other loose cannons), it is fairly evident that the mass killings perpetrated by Armenians, while they were in control of eastern Anatolia on and off from 1915-20, with and without their Russian (and later French) allies, &lt;b&gt;was&lt;/b&gt; systematic. We have firsthand reports from Russian and French officers testifying to the terrible crimes the Armenians perpetrated, and even a great friend of the Armenians, General Harbord, acknowledged the mass slaughter upon defenseless Ottoman villagers, including Muslims and Jews. This was the real genocide (as far as the 1948 U.N. Convention definition of genocide; there was demonstrable intent, and the victims were entirely innocent, not part of any political group, as were the Armenians who had allied themselves with the enemies of their Ottoman nation at war) of that period, but of course, it is unknown; Armenian propaganda and western prejudice is too overpowering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as Vahagn&#8217;s forgiveness is concerned, do not forget that the tragic events of those years went both ways. Whereas there is no proof that the Armenians who were killed were systematically killed by the Ottoman government (killers were lawless bands and other loose cannons), it is fairly evident that the mass killings perpetrated by Armenians, while they were in control of eastern Anatolia on and off from 1915-20, with and without their Russian (and later French) allies, <b>was</b> systematic. We have firsthand reports from Russian and French officers testifying to the terrible crimes the Armenians perpetrated, and even a great friend of the Armenians, General Harbord, acknowledged the mass slaughter upon defenseless Ottoman villagers, including Muslims and Jews. This was the real genocide (as far as the 1948 U.N. Convention definition of genocide; there was demonstrable intent, and the victims were entirely innocent, not part of any political group, as were the Armenians who had allied themselves with the enemies of their Ottoman nation at war) of that period, but of course, it is unknown; Armenian propaganda and western prejudice is too overpowering.</p>
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		<title>By: swansong</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/10/bush-stands-up-for-genocide/#comment-12656</link>
		<dc:creator>swansong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 03:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, not all the Armenians killed were civilian; many thousands of Armenian men had betrayed their Ottoman nation by crossing the border to join the Russians, refusing to serve in the Ottoman army, or by deserting to hit the Ottoman army in the back. This was the opportunity Armenian revolutionists were looking for, for years. And it is absolutely ludicrous to label all Armenians who had died as victims of "murders" when most died from the same reasons claiming the nearly 3 million other Ottomans who lost their lives, from non-murderous reasons such as famine and disease. 1.5 million was not the toll of the Armenian dead, it could not have been when 1.5 million was the pre-war population of Ottoman-Armenians, according to most "neutral" (that is, anti-Turkish western sources), and when even Peter Balakian and other extreme propagandists agree there were one million survivors. The true mortality was around a third of 1.5 million, which is a huge difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, not all the Armenians killed were civilian; many thousands of Armenian men had betrayed their Ottoman nation by crossing the border to join the Russians, refusing to serve in the Ottoman army, or by deserting to hit the Ottoman army in the back. This was the opportunity Armenian revolutionists were looking for, for years. And it is absolutely ludicrous to label all Armenians who had died as victims of &#8220;murders&#8221; when most died from the same reasons claiming the nearly 3 million other Ottomans who lost their lives, from non-murderous reasons such as famine and disease. 1.5 million was not the toll of the Armenian dead, it could not have been when 1.5 million was the pre-war population of Ottoman-Armenians, according to most &#8220;neutral&#8221; (that is, anti-Turkish western sources), and when even Peter Balakian and other extreme propagandists agree there were one million survivors. The true mortality was around a third of 1.5 million, which is a huge difference.</p>
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		<title>By: ceti</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/10/bush-stands-up-for-genocide/#comment-12529</link>
		<dc:creator>ceti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 10:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Armo's comments are very important. It was the ultra-secularist Young Turks who were at the forefront of the Armenian Genocide. The ultimate irony is that the British replaced the Ottomans in Mesopotamia as the Imperial overlords just as Armenia was absorbed into the Soviet Union. In all this, the voices of the oppressed nations -- Armenian, Kurd, and Arab -- were ignored and buried.

So, forget the silly clash of civilizations canard -- you just have to go back to inter imperialist rivalries to explain these things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Armo&#8217;s comments are very important. It was the ultra-secularist Young Turks who were at the forefront of the Armenian Genocide. The ultimate irony is that the British replaced the Ottomans in Mesopotamia as the Imperial overlords just as Armenia was absorbed into the Soviet Union. In all this, the voices of the oppressed nations &#8212; Armenian, Kurd, and Arab &#8212; were ignored and buried.</p>
<p>So, forget the silly clash of civilizations canard &#8212; you just have to go back to inter imperialist rivalries to explain these things.</p>
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		<title>By: baba ganoush</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/10/bush-stands-up-for-genocide/#comment-12484</link>
		<dc:creator>baba ganoush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 04:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it that whenever there's a talk of turning a few screws on either Turkey or that jihadi COSTCO that goes by the name of Pakistan, the same tired skies-are-going-to-fall schtick gets played out ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that whenever there&#8217;s a talk of turning a few screws on either Turkey or that jihadi COSTCO that goes by the name of Pakistan, the same tired skies-are-going-to-fall schtick gets played out ?</p>
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		<title>By: R. Nelson</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/10/bush-stands-up-for-genocide/#comment-12156</link>
		<dc:creator>R. Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 06:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of Darfur, check out Ken Silverstein's Harper's October 9 column as well as Darfur references in antiwar.com.  There is no good guy in that fight, though as usual more civilians die than combatants (see U.S. in Iraq).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Darfur, check out Ken Silverstein&#8217;s Harper&#8217;s October 9 column as well as Darfur references in antiwar.com.  There is no good guy in that fight, though as usual more civilians die than combatants (see U.S. in Iraq).</p>
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