Comments on: More Neo-Cons for Giuliani

By: Stanley Laham

Stanley Laham — Mon, 15 Oct 2007 06:54:14 +0000

Well said Roger V.
Indeed this has been the policy by the powers behind the throne for most of the 19th. and 20th. century. Here in the US, politicians with a lot to hide have been promoted with the idea of blackmailing them later by all powerful lobbies, most notably AIPAC.

By: Tim R.

Tim R. — Mon, 15 Oct 2007 04:15:13 +0000

Hal,

I thought Saudi Arabia had us “by the balls” to use your parlance. They export more oil than any other nation and we import more oil from them than from any other single nation. 15 of the 19 hijackers on Sept. 11 2001 were Saudi, they are one of the most militantly Islamic/Wahabist regimes around and are probably the last remaining absolute monarchy in the world. Yet, we still call these folks our “friends.” Would you not say they have us “by the balls?”

By: Hal

Hal — Sun, 14 Oct 2007 17:02:38 +0000

I meant to imply I doubted Giuliani would or could win the Presidency. I don’t know that if he did he would be worse than Bush. It would be very difficult to be worse than Bush. But I don’t delight in any of the Democrats either. Hillary has pretty much done everything the Israel Lobby wanted too. She is probably more intelligent than Giuliani and for sure more intelligent than Bush. Getting unglued from Israel is not going to be easy; it has us by the balls and has had us that way for many years.

By: Mark Williams

Mark Williams — Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:10:15 +0000

Hal writes: “Fortunately or at least hopefully [Giuliani] will prove a weak reed for [the neocons] to lean on and we will be freer from their control than during the Bush administration.”

On what conceivable basis do you think this likely, Hal? Are you saying that sheer improbability suggests that the next President, whoever it is, could not be as bad as Bush? Or is there something in Giuliani’s demonstrated nature that gives you hope?

For myself, I have seen in Giuliani’s record of governance and rhetoric nothing but clear and repeated confirmation that as President – heaven forfend – he would be, if possible, even more militantly pro-Israel than Bush and Cheney.

By: jojo

jojo — Sun, 14 Oct 2007 14:20:32 +0000

Host America ,them Israel firsters have wrecked this land of ours. Both partys and media need a good clean out.
This article has put the fear in me— if Rudy gets elected {:-(

By: Roger V.

Roger V. — Sun, 14 Oct 2007 13:50:03 +0000

It’s sad that Giuliani and Hilary seem the likely frontrunners in the upcoming campaign. In the case of Giuliani and the weak reed, I would think that the neocons would crave a malleable excutive with skeletons in his closet. If the dear leader begins to waver, just threaten to trot out another skeleton to the media. I suspect Giuliani will prove a useful idiot for Podhoretz and Perl.

By: Hal

Hal — Sun, 14 Oct 2007 06:08:01 +0000

The Neocons always need to find a dupe or useful fool, and this time round Giuliani is their man. They probably got connected (glued) to him while he was mayor of NYC. Fortunately or at least hopefully he will prove a weak reed for them to lean on and we will be freer from their control than during the Bush administration. No administration, however, can be completely free of them, as Mearsheimer and Walt make clear. This is demonstrated by the fact that Hillary has disgustingly danced to their tune whenever she had to in order to “succeed” politically.