Comments on: Following Hillary’s Money http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/19/following-hillarys-money/ Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:41:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Gary Barney http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/19/following-hillarys-money/#comment-15803 Gary Barney Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:46:53 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/19/following-hillarys-money/#comment-15803 Ever notice that Hiilary was anti-war during the Nam era and more or less pro-war now? Could it be because of AIPAC?again the Israel Lobby is going to pick our leaders.This is a immoral war if ever there was one and yet the lemmings of the American public will drink the kool aid just like Jim Jones was serving it!Its enough to make a thinking person puke! Ever notice that Hiilary was anti-war during the Nam era and more or less pro-war now? Could it be because of AIPAC?again the Israel Lobby is going to pick our leaders.This is a immoral war if ever there was one and yet the lemmings of the American public will drink the kool aid just like Jim Jones was serving it!Its enough to make a thinking person puke!

]]> By: richard vajs http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/19/following-hillarys-money/#comment-15642 richard vajs Sun, 21 Oct 2007 12:35:57 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/19/following-hillarys-money/#comment-15642 Actually I am talking about recovery FROM totalitarian fascism. Just what do you think the American Empire is all about - spreading democracy? Actually I am talking about recovery FROM totalitarian fascism. Just what do you think the American Empire is all about - spreading democracy?

]]> By: G5 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/19/following-hillarys-money/#comment-15541 G5 Sun, 21 Oct 2007 05:52:08 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/19/following-hillarys-money/#comment-15541 It's not her gender. It's her opinion on the continuance of war. It’s not her gender. It’s her opinion on the continuance of war.

]]> By: G5 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/19/following-hillarys-money/#comment-15540 G5 Sun, 21 Oct 2007 05:49:28 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/19/following-hillarys-money/#comment-15540 53rd state after England. Would like to offer my apologies. 53rd state after England. Would like to offer my apologies.

]]> By: Chris Horton http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/19/following-hillarys-money/#comment-15427 Chris Horton Sun, 21 Oct 2007 00:16:43 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/19/following-hillarys-money/#comment-15427 Hillary doesn't come close to representing the views or interests of the American public on foreign or domestic policy. By making the race about image, character and electability and by ignoring candidates like Kucinich, Ron Paul, Gravel and even Bill Richardson who don't toe the War Party line, the media pushes dubious characters like Clinton and Giuliani and well-hyped nobodies like Edwards and Obama to the front and convinces people that's what their menu is to choose from. One measure of how far out of line Hillary is can be found in the (admittedly unscientific) results of the ongoing "Pick Your Candidate" survey at www.dehp.net/candidate. If you haven't taken this poll, you should; and then forward it to your mailing list. The results, for you and for the respondents as a whole, may surprise you. Another measure of the misalignment between voters' views and Hillary's can be found in the results of a survey of 800 broadly representative registered voters - 45% Republican and about 30% Democratic voters - conducted by Lake Research Partners on behalf of Change to Win (CTW): http://www.changetowin.org/fileadmin/pdf/american-dream-sep-2007-exec-summary.pdf The raw data is fascinating and worth perusing: http://www.changetowin.org/fileadmin/pdf/american-dream-sep-2007-topline.pdf There are some very surprising results here, which don't at all match the usual verdict on the American people. The root menu with links to other surveys and analysis is at http://www.changetowin.org/features/the-american-dream-survey.html This is the portrait of an angry and disillusioned people ready for a change but deeply distrustful of their political leaders and well aware that their political system has been hijacked by the corporate rich. This pent-up demand for a new direction is not being tapped - indeed is being suppressed - by both parties, but there is a potential here for a political earthquake when the electorate finally gets shocked into action and discovers its power. Hillary doesn’t come close to representing the views or interests of the American public on foreign or domestic policy. By making the race about image, character and electability and by ignoring candidates like Kucinich, Ron Paul, Gravel and even Bill Richardson who don’t toe the War Party line, the media pushes dubious characters like Clinton and Giuliani and well-hyped nobodies like Edwards and Obama to the front and convinces people that’s what their menu is to choose from.

One measure of how far out of line Hillary is can be found in the (admittedly unscientific) results of the ongoing “Pick Your Candidate” survey at

http://www.dehp.net/candidate.

If you haven’t taken this poll, you should; and then forward it to your mailing list. The results, for you and for the respondents as a whole, may surprise you.

Another measure of the misalignment between voters’ views and Hillary’s can be found in the results of a survey of 800 broadly representative registered voters - 45% Republican and about 30% Democratic voters - conducted by Lake Research Partners on behalf of Change to Win (CTW):

http://www.changetowin.org/fileadmin/pdf/american-dream-sep-2007-exec-summary.pdf

The raw data is fascinating and worth perusing:

http://www.changetowin.org/fileadmin/pdf/american-dream-sep-2007-topline.pdf

There are some very surprising results here, which don’t at all match the usual verdict on the American people. The root menu with links to other surveys and analysis is at

http://www.changetowin.org/features/the-american-dream-survey.html

This is the portrait of an angry and disillusioned people ready for a change but deeply distrustful of their political leaders and well aware that their political system has been hijacked by the corporate rich. This pent-up demand for a new direction is not being tapped - indeed is being suppressed - by both parties, but there is a potential here for a political earthquake when the electorate finally gets shocked into action and discovers its power.

]]> By: Carol Watson http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/19/following-hillarys-money/#comment-15369 Carol Watson Sat, 20 Oct 2007 22:31:44 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/19/following-hillarys-money/#comment-15369 Let's go back to why Clinton voted affirmatively on the Iraq war authorization. Simply put, she had no idea what she was voting for. This is worse than just bad judgment; she wasn't even paying attention! This news article speaks for itself: A Heated Exchange for Hillary April 14, 2007 2:52 PM ABCNews' Eloise Harper reports: After fielding many questions ranging from mental health care to veteran affairs at a Town Hall Meeting in Hampton, NH, Senator Hillary Clinton received a heated question about Iraq. A woman who had traveled from New York asked Sen. Clinton if she had read the report given to her in 2002 on intelligence and the Iraq war. Clinton said she had been briefed on the report, and the woman screamed back, "Did you read it?!" Notably uncomfortable, the Senator repeated that she had been briefed. This exchange went back and forth about three times. The woman sat down and Clinton explained, "If I had known then what I know now, I never would have voted to give this President the authority." Clinton also said she believed she was giving the President the authority to send U.N. inspectors to Iraq. http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/04/heated_meeting_.html Let’s go back to why Clinton voted affirmatively on the Iraq war authorization. Simply put, she had no idea what she was voting for. This is worse than just bad judgment; she wasn’t even paying attention! This news article speaks for itself:

A Heated Exchange for Hillary
April 14, 2007 2:52 PM

ABCNews’ Eloise Harper reports: After fielding many questions ranging from mental health care to veteran affairs at a Town Hall Meeting in Hampton, NH, Senator Hillary Clinton received a heated question about Iraq. A woman who had traveled from New York asked Sen. Clinton if she had read the report given to her in 2002 on intelligence and the Iraq war.

Clinton said she had been briefed on the report, and the woman screamed back, “Did you read it?!” Notably uncomfortable, the Senator repeated that she had been briefed. This exchange went back and forth about three times.

The woman sat down and Clinton explained, “If I had known then what I know now, I never would have voted to give this President the authority.” Clinton also said she believed she was giving the President the authority to send U.N. inspectors to Iraq.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/04/heated_meeting_.html

]]> By: Tippersnore http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/19/following-hillarys-money/#comment-15292 Tippersnore Sat, 20 Oct 2007 18:43:41 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/19/following-hillarys-money/#comment-15292 The question is: after the next major terrorist attack on the US, will Rodham be able to keep us as scared as Lord Mush did for so long to foment the neo-neonut and vested interests' agenda? The question is: after the next major terrorist attack on the US, will Rodham be able to keep us as scared as Lord Mush did for so long to foment the neo-neonut and vested interests’ agenda?

]]> By: PeteinDC http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/19/following-hillarys-money/#comment-15231 PeteinDC Sat, 20 Oct 2007 15:53:14 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/19/following-hillarys-money/#comment-15231 Big difference between American government and America. Our government is total s**t, but we the people are not. Big difference between American government and America. Our government is total s**t, but we the people are not.

]]> By: John Lowell http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/19/following-hillarys-money/#comment-15207 John Lowell Sat, 20 Oct 2007 15:12:28 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/19/following-hillarys-money/#comment-15207 I think it was St. Anselm that at one point in his life spoke of the feliticity of sin. "Oh sin, most felicitous" or something along these lines. Would that others might avoid injury in the course of our leadership's pursuit of it's self-centeredness. Like children caught in the middle of domestic violence its the innocents that suffer and their's undoubtedly the suffering of Christ. There is a whole world crucified in large part because of the blindness of those that lead and have lead us. They will not escape accountability. John Lowell I think it was St. Anselm that at one point in his life spoke of the feliticity of sin. “Oh sin, most felicitous” or something along these lines. Would that others might avoid injury in the course of our leadership’s pursuit of it’s self-centeredness. Like children caught in the middle of domestic violence its the innocents that suffer and their’s undoubtedly the suffering of Christ. There is a whole world crucified in large part because of the blindness of those that lead and have lead us. They will not escape accountability.

John Lowell

]]> By: D.L. http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/19/following-hillarys-money/#comment-15203 D.L. Sat, 20 Oct 2007 14:59:01 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/19/following-hillarys-money/#comment-15203 Richard: Recovery via totalitarian fascism? Oooooo-kkaaaaay! Bring it on kiddo! Richard: Recovery via totalitarian fascism? Oooooo-kkaaaaay! Bring it on kiddo!

]]> By: richard vajs http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/19/following-hillarys-money/#comment-15160 richard vajs Sat, 20 Oct 2007 12:49:18 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/19/following-hillarys-money/#comment-15160 America's moral salvation will come when this wretched country goes bankrupt. When the dollar becomes nearly worthless, our troops will come home, the World will ignore us, and that parasite Israel will have to deal with its neighbors. So let us cheer big defecits, rotten trade balances and corrupt politicians like Rudy and Hillary. Finally, we are on the road to recovery. America’s moral salvation will come when this wretched country goes bankrupt. When the dollar becomes nearly worthless, our troops will come home, the World will ignore us, and that parasite Israel will have to deal with its neighbors. So let us cheer big defecits, rotten trade balances and corrupt politicians like Rudy and Hillary. Finally, we are on the road to recovery.

]]> By: John Lowell http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/19/following-hillarys-money/#comment-15157 John Lowell Sat, 20 Oct 2007 12:44:33 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/19/following-hillarys-money/#comment-15157 Or like their ReichsChurch supporters, Richard Neuhaus and James Dobson among others, manage any real opposition to George Bush's infamous stem-cell compromise in 2001. You're right, the appetite for violence currently being savoured by those in the Regime extends quite far, even beyond the grave it would seem. And their inability to mount meaningful opposition to it is a measure of their committment to both life and peace. I see disengagement as the only sane option. John Lowell Or like their ReichsChurch supporters, Richard Neuhaus and James Dobson among others, manage any real opposition to George Bush’s infamous stem-cell compromise in 2001. You’re right, the appetite for violence currently being savoured by those in the Regime extends quite far, even beyond the grave it would seem. And their inability to mount meaningful opposition to it is a measure of their committment to both life and peace. I see disengagement as the only sane option.

John Lowell

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