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		<title>By: A</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 07:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice try.  You look at the last 500 years.  Name me one thing that has come out of the muslim world in the last 500 years?  One thing that actually advanced civilization, medicine, science or civil liberties?

All of this stuff is a direct result of the protestant revolution, which lead to the renaissance (Isaac Newton wrote more about Christianity than science) which lead to the break off of Christians going to America, and was a cornerstone for what is, compared the history of the world, a radically different country.  Those same principles propelled America to become the most powerful country in the world and led to great ideas--human rights, due process, government that was restricted, abolishing traditional classes in society (no royalty).   A place where anyone could  become what they wanted with hard work and some luck.   

You think that America is some awful country.  Meanwhile, other countries still lack basic civil liberties, ruled by awful governemts, no due process, internet content control and the list goes on.  They aren&#039;t thugs killing out kids in Iraq.  There are soliders dying in their line of duty.  I was also there, and I no one twisted my arm to join, and no one twisted the arm of the Infantry men who RE-ENLIST to deploy 3 or 4 times at a level thats unprecedented.

Your tally of deaths in Iraq is so abusrd.  Death happens in conflict.  You are basically using their deaths to push your agenda.  And, marginalizing their free will and their choice to join (during a time of war) and re-enlist.  People dying or being wounded in conflict is not how you measure the value or progress (or lack if you will) of the conflict. 

The reason you think Glenn Beck is some hate monger is because you lack fundemental understanding of the world in which you live, and you&#039;ve been lead to believe that somehow its all the Christians and Republicans who are out to get everyone.  

And to all of you idiots out there who think Islam is not bad--Islam tolerates no one.  Its the most intoleratnt religion possible.  Thats why you don&#039;t see Christian churches, Jewish temples or Buddist temples in Saudi Arabia, and why they punsish homoesexuality by death, and why women have no rights. They also do not assimilate into the cultures the move into, instead, they expect that culture to accomadate them and their backwards way of living. Again, name me anything that stupid religion has given the world in the last 500 years.  And we can&#039;t say anything about it, you can&#039;t make fun of it without riots ensuing.  And they are reproducing at a high rate.  

Meanwhile you waste all of your thought process and time thinking that people who believe that American individuals know how best to use their money, military should be strong, and appeasement and setting awful precedents (ie media leveraged so Americans start disliking something, causing favorable action for them like U.S pulling out just to pull out) is a some noble cause.   The real enemy of the lifestyle and freedom you enjoy is right in front of you, and you are even on their side!  The idea that America is bad, that wealth is bad, that corporations are bad, that anything America does is bad and some greedy massive plot.

Instead of saying, hey, American has indroduced and made popular a lot of REALLY great ideas the world has benefited from.  American has beat down enemies in wars, and spent their own money to rebuild (germany, japan etc) America has lost more soldiers fighting for other people than any other country in the world, you say...boo America?  

And what does it get?  Your scorn, your arrogant egoist way of thinking.  The idea that you are enlightened somehow.   So you criticize and sneer and the people invetiatbly join the bandwagon of hate and pointing fingers.  Mean while, you are so careful to be respectful of Islam which really does hate America.

This whole page is literated with idiotic commnet.s  Josef...what possible relevance to anything does whether or not Glenn Becks kids enlisting to go to war have to do with with his view or opinions?  And because you don&#039;t like his view, he is a piece of crap and shouldn&#039;t be on the air? They should only have one opinion, and the rest is invalid? And you call him a neocon warmonger, but if things were your way, all conservative talk and thinkers would never be allowed on radio or tv, right? 

And to you Peg.  Politics of hate? What hate?  Oh yes I forgot, you are PC, you must never say anything that migtt offend someone, even if its true.  Or make a joke. That would be intoleratant, which translate to hate right?   You call listeners of Glenn Beck uneducated, yet your statement betrays a serious problem.   You assume that your opinion is inately more enlightened or open minded, and the opposing view is not.  Therefore, you have already made it clear that you think the opposing view is not worth your time, which makes you the truely uneducated, unenlightened human being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice try.  You look at the last 500 years.  Name me one thing that has come out of the muslim world in the last 500 years?  One thing that actually advanced civilization, medicine, science or civil liberties?</p>
<p>All of this stuff is a direct result of the protestant revolution, which lead to the renaissance (Isaac Newton wrote more about Christianity than science) which lead to the break off of Christians going to America, and was a cornerstone for what is, compared the history of the world, a radically different country.  Those same principles propelled America to become the most powerful country in the world and led to great ideas&#8211;human rights, due process, government that was restricted, abolishing traditional classes in society (no royalty).   A place where anyone could  become what they wanted with hard work and some luck.   </p>
<p>You think that America is some awful country.  Meanwhile, other countries still lack basic civil liberties, ruled by awful governemts, no due process, internet content control and the list goes on.  They aren&#8217;t thugs killing out kids in Iraq.  There are soliders dying in their line of duty.  I was also there, and I no one twisted my arm to join, and no one twisted the arm of the Infantry men who RE-ENLIST to deploy 3 or 4 times at a level thats unprecedented.</p>
<p>Your tally of deaths in Iraq is so abusrd.  Death happens in conflict.  You are basically using their deaths to push your agenda.  And, marginalizing their free will and their choice to join (during a time of war) and re-enlist.  People dying or being wounded in conflict is not how you measure the value or progress (or lack if you will) of the conflict. </p>
<p>The reason you think Glenn Beck is some hate monger is because you lack fundemental understanding of the world in which you live, and you&#8217;ve been lead to believe that somehow its all the Christians and Republicans who are out to get everyone.  </p>
<p>And to all of you idiots out there who think Islam is not bad&#8211;Islam tolerates no one.  Its the most intoleratnt religion possible.  Thats why you don&#8217;t see Christian churches, Jewish temples or Buddist temples in Saudi Arabia, and why they punsish homoesexuality by death, and why women have no rights. They also do not assimilate into the cultures the move into, instead, they expect that culture to accomadate them and their backwards way of living. Again, name me anything that stupid religion has given the world in the last 500 years.  And we can&#8217;t say anything about it, you can&#8217;t make fun of it without riots ensuing.  And they are reproducing at a high rate.  </p>
<p>Meanwhile you waste all of your thought process and time thinking that people who believe that American individuals know how best to use their money, military should be strong, and appeasement and setting awful precedents (ie media leveraged so Americans start disliking something, causing favorable action for them like U.S pulling out just to pull out) is a some noble cause.   The real enemy of the lifestyle and freedom you enjoy is right in front of you, and you are even on their side!  The idea that America is bad, that wealth is bad, that corporations are bad, that anything America does is bad and some greedy massive plot.</p>
<p>Instead of saying, hey, American has indroduced and made popular a lot of REALLY great ideas the world has benefited from.  American has beat down enemies in wars, and spent their own money to rebuild (germany, japan etc) America has lost more soldiers fighting for other people than any other country in the world, you say&#8230;boo America?  </p>
<p>And what does it get?  Your scorn, your arrogant egoist way of thinking.  The idea that you are enlightened somehow.   So you criticize and sneer and the people invetiatbly join the bandwagon of hate and pointing fingers.  Mean while, you are so careful to be respectful of Islam which really does hate America.</p>
<p>This whole page is literated with idiotic commnet.s  Josef&#8230;what possible relevance to anything does whether or not Glenn Becks kids enlisting to go to war have to do with with his view or opinions?  And because you don&#8217;t like his view, he is a piece of crap and shouldn&#8217;t be on the air? They should only have one opinion, and the rest is invalid? And you call him a neocon warmonger, but if things were your way, all conservative talk and thinkers would never be allowed on radio or tv, right? </p>
<p>And to you Peg.  Politics of hate? What hate?  Oh yes I forgot, you are PC, you must never say anything that migtt offend someone, even if its true.  Or make a joke. That would be intoleratant, which translate to hate right?   You call listeners of Glenn Beck uneducated, yet your statement betrays a serious problem.   You assume that your opinion is inately more enlightened or open minded, and the opposing view is not.  Therefore, you have already made it clear that you think the opposing view is not worth your time, which makes you the truely uneducated, unenlightened human being.</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Costa</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-hooray-for-california-fires/comment-page-1/#comment-20318</link>
		<dc:creator>Eugene Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 22:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Chinese Communists just got burned big time.

Every time the Fed lowers interest rates it inflates the dollar. This is new.

Bush&#039;s ten percenters are the ones hardest hit.

It is hard for the National Guard in Iraq to fight forest fires in California.

The terminator threatens evil arsonists as a diversion.

If state and local governments create a tinderbox should they then execute kids playing with matches by lethal injection?

Or electrocute their parents?

If they have parents.

The sun is setting on Walmart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Chinese Communists just got burned big time.</p>
<p>Every time the Fed lowers interest rates it inflates the dollar. This is new.</p>
<p>Bush&#8217;s ten percenters are the ones hardest hit.</p>
<p>It is hard for the National Guard in Iraq to fight forest fires in California.</p>
<p>The terminator threatens evil arsonists as a diversion.</p>
<p>If state and local governments create a tinderbox should they then execute kids playing with matches by lethal injection?</p>
<p>Or electrocute their parents?</p>
<p>If they have parents.</p>
<p>The sun is setting on Walmart.</p>
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		<title>By: peg</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-hooray-for-california-fires/comment-page-1/#comment-16960</link>
		<dc:creator>peg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not a reaction to Glenn Beck, per se, it&#039;s a reaction to the people he represents.. Unenlightened, uneducated people who believe in the politics of hate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not a reaction to Glenn Beck, per se, it&#8217;s a reaction to the people he represents.. Unenlightened, uneducated people who believe in the politics of hate.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim R.</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-hooray-for-california-fires/comment-page-1/#comment-16934</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Beck said is outrageous and deplorable. However, it is no worse than what a lot of the far left wing liberals say about the President and conservatives in general. When Cheney was in Afghanistan and a bomb went off outside the base where he was visiting, left wingers made jokes that it was a &quot;waste of a bomb&quot; and things like that. Left wing radicals make jokes about the death of the President and of conservatives all the time. I think to make a joke like that, whether it is targeted toward a liberal, a conservative, or any human being is worthy of condemnation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Beck said is outrageous and deplorable. However, it is no worse than what a lot of the far left wing liberals say about the President and conservatives in general. When Cheney was in Afghanistan and a bomb went off outside the base where he was visiting, left wingers made jokes that it was a &#8220;waste of a bomb&#8221; and things like that. Left wing radicals make jokes about the death of the President and of conservatives all the time. I think to make a joke like that, whether it is targeted toward a liberal, a conservative, or any human being is worthy of condemnation.</p>
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		<title>By: Josef</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-hooray-for-california-fires/comment-page-1/#comment-16793</link>
		<dc:creator>Josef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 07:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can believe why CNN hired this piece of crap Beck a fanatical neocon warmonger.
I wonder if his kids would volunteer to go for war in Iraq or Iran?
Coward</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can believe why CNN hired this piece of crap Beck a fanatical neocon warmonger.<br />
I wonder if his kids would volunteer to go for war in Iraq or Iran?<br />
Coward</p>
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		<title>By: Willie</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-hooray-for-california-fires/comment-page-1/#comment-16729</link>
		<dc:creator>Willie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 02:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He claims that he is Christian, no wonder Islam does not like us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He claims that he is Christian, no wonder Islam does not like us.</p>
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		<title>By: Willie</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-hooray-for-california-fires/comment-page-1/#comment-16728</link>
		<dc:creator>Willie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 02:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use to watch this idiot on TV, no more, I&#039;ll will watch cartoon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use to watch this idiot on TV, no more, I&#8217;ll will watch cartoon.</p>
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		<title>By: FRONTLINETRUTH</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-hooray-for-california-fires/comment-page-1/#comment-16662</link>
		<dc:creator>FRONTLINETRUTH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glen Beck is N.W.O.scum his show is all about pushing the straw-man lies for the thugs that are killing our kids in Iraq
for power and money.

P.S. The war on terror is a huge frad on the american people
and Glen Beck is a small part of it.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glen Beck is N.W.O.scum his show is all about pushing the straw-man lies for the thugs that are killing our kids in Iraq<br />
for power and money.</p>
<p>P.S. The war on terror is a huge frad on the american people<br />
and Glen Beck is a small part of it&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoot</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-hooray-for-california-fires/comment-page-1/#comment-16654</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t Beck a Beer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t Beck a Beer?</p>
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		<title>By: Dianne C. Foster</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-hooray-for-california-fires/comment-page-1/#comment-16648</link>
		<dc:creator>Dianne C. Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, I am interested that Portreo is involved in the fire. They resisted getting Blackwater to start a branch there to deal with illegals coming over the border - or so they said that was what they wanted to do. In reality, they wanted money. But the town worthies resisted.

Okay, some of the Calif. wildfires are indeed of suspicious origin. I started to wonder about them when I saw a very smart and well-prepared Sen. Dianne Feinstein speaking today in the Senate about the causes of such fires, and her opinion that zoning should be used to make it harder to build developments in some high risk areas. But she said something and then kind of stopped herself (was it irrelevant?)

It was that the fires basically start around the Mexican border. Now clearly that is the extent to which her writ runs, and she is not speaking on Mexico,
but I wondered why it was so.

Why isn&#039;t Baja also engulfed in flames? Part of the area just south of the border does not get sea breezes from the Sea of Cortez. It too is west of the mountain ranges and should presumably be getting Santana&#039;s. (Is it Santa Ana or Santana - in childhood, we said Santana - that was before the musical group with its Mexican founder struck it big).  See, I think Santana is a condition which affects Baja too.

And they are developing Baja big time too.

So why no fires there, huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, I am interested that Portreo is involved in the fire. They resisted getting Blackwater to start a branch there to deal with illegals coming over the border &#8211; or so they said that was what they wanted to do. In reality, they wanted money. But the town worthies resisted.</p>
<p>Okay, some of the Calif. wildfires are indeed of suspicious origin. I started to wonder about them when I saw a very smart and well-prepared Sen. Dianne Feinstein speaking today in the Senate about the causes of such fires, and her opinion that zoning should be used to make it harder to build developments in some high risk areas. But she said something and then kind of stopped herself (was it irrelevant?)</p>
<p>It was that the fires basically start around the Mexican border. Now clearly that is the extent to which her writ runs, and she is not speaking on Mexico,<br />
but I wondered why it was so.</p>
<p>Why isn&#8217;t Baja also engulfed in flames? Part of the area just south of the border does not get sea breezes from the Sea of Cortez. It too is west of the mountain ranges and should presumably be getting Santana&#8217;s. (Is it Santa Ana or Santana &#8211; in childhood, we said Santana &#8211; that was before the musical group with its Mexican founder struck it big).  See, I think Santana is a condition which affects Baja too.</p>
<p>And they are developing Baja big time too.</p>
<p>So why no fires there, huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Mary MacElveen</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-hooray-for-california-fires/comment-page-1/#comment-16630</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary MacElveen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To read my thoughts on those that bash Californians especially those like Glenn Beck, please go to this link, http://www.marymacelveen.com/blog/_archives/2007/10/23/3309739.html

Best,
Mary!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To read my thoughts on those that bash Californians especially those like Glenn Beck, please go to this link, <a href="http://www.marymacelveen.com/blog/_archives/2007/10/23/3309739.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.marymacelveen.com/blog/_archives/2007/10/23/3309739.html</a></p>
<p>Best,<br />
Mary!</p>
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		<title>By: Garba Maigoro</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/23/glenn-beck-hooray-for-california-fires/comment-page-1/#comment-16624</link>
		<dc:creator>Garba Maigoro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I listened to about 10 minutes of Neil Borz this morning and he seeded the idea that the fires were started by Muslims and then changed it to Islamic Extremists. After we bomb Iran we can then blame global warming on the Muzzlims because they made us bomb them and they sell a lot of oil. 

I immigrated to the US about 20 years ago, legally I might add. I am a law abiding US citizen that has never even been issued a parking ticket. After 9/11 the FBI called me to find out where I was (I had moved on Sept 1). My next door neighbor that I had shared many functions and meals with reported me to the FBI claiming he has not seen me after 9/11. I had been in the States 14 years then and for the first time I did not feel that I belonged here - I was rattled. Some people on the road hurled insults at me and my kids during that hellish 9/11 week and I stopped driving them around. 

I do hope this never happens but if another major terror act happens in the USA, I will go back to where I came from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I listened to about 10 minutes of Neil Borz this morning and he seeded the idea that the fires were started by Muslims and then changed it to Islamic Extremists. After we bomb Iran we can then blame global warming on the Muzzlims because they made us bomb them and they sell a lot of oil. </p>
<p>I immigrated to the US about 20 years ago, legally I might add. I am a law abiding US citizen that has never even been issued a parking ticket. After 9/11 the FBI called me to find out where I was (I had moved on Sept 1). My next door neighbor that I had shared many functions and meals with reported me to the FBI claiming he has not seen me after 9/11. I had been in the States 14 years then and for the first time I did not feel that I belonged here &#8211; I was rattled. Some people on the road hurled insults at me and my kids during that hellish 9/11 week and I stopped driving them around. </p>
<p>I do hope this never happens but if another major terror act happens in the USA, I will go back to where I came from.</p>
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