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	<title>Comments on: Jacob Hornberger</title>
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		<title>By: T.Jefferson Band</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/24/jacob-hornberger-3/#comment-97004</link>
		<dc:creator>T.Jefferson Band</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 21:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I send you an anti-war song that we wrote and produced?  T.Jefferson Band</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I send you an anti-war song that we wrote and produced?  T.Jefferson Band</p>
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		<title>By: Fred in Japan</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/24/jacob-hornberger-3/#comment-18316</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred in Japan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 05:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the above...I can't believe that the intelligence services were SO incompetent.  It seems like the hijackers were given free rein.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the above&#8230;I can&#8217;t believe that the intelligence services were SO incompetent.  It seems like the hijackers were given free rein.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Intent is a given. The alleged hijackers had all sorts of possible motives, political or religious. IMO, capability is another story. Look at the resource disparity. The CIA had a virtual station focused just on al Qaeda and Bin Laden! FBI had the UBLU, the I-49 and the RFU (the last two did not focus exclusively on al Qaeda). Look at the technology disparity. NSA. Satellite technology. US intel has relationships with other state intelligence agencies (other state intelligence agencies having the same vast resource advantage over al Qaeda). Then factor in military intelligence and special forces capability.

Furthermore the alleged hijackers were not careful. They made blatant errors on VISA applications. Drew attention at a flight school by leaving the cockpit of a plane while it was on the runway. Moussaoui acted so suspiciously that he got arrested.

We are told Atta, Jarrah and al-Shehhi were students who became radicalized at the al-Quds mosque in Hamburg and were then recruited by al Qaeda. Students with some terrorist training in Afghanistan and some pilot training in the US vs. intelligence experts and counterterrorism professionals with years of training and the best resources available.

&lt;i&gt;CIA Director Tenet finds the briefing Cofer Black just gave him (see July 10, 2001) so alarming that he calls National Security Adviser Rice from his car as he heads to the White House and says he needs to see her right away, even though he has regular weekly meetings with her. [Washington Post, 10/1/2006] Tenet, Black, and an unnamed third CIA official brief Rice on the latest intelligence. Deputy National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley and counterterrorism “tsar” Richard Clarke are also present.&lt;/i&gt; &lt;a HREF="http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=a071001tenetwarnsrice" rel="nofollow"&gt;LINK&lt;/a&gt;

Why weren't Middleton (head of FBI's UBLU), Frasca (head of FBI's RFU) or Watson (head of FBI's Counterterrorism Division) at this meeting? Didn't the FBI have investigative jurisdiction in the US? As for the notion of a turf battle, Rice and Clarke weren't CIA. In fact, their jobs entailed coordinating other agencies to a certain degree. Why didn't they involve the FBI or at the very least give the FBI a full briefing afterwards? This doesn't come across as incompetence. Rather, it suggests dereliction of duty at a minimum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intent is a given. The alleged hijackers had all sorts of possible motives, political or religious. IMO, capability is another story. Look at the resource disparity. The CIA had a virtual station focused just on al Qaeda and Bin Laden! FBI had the UBLU, the I-49 and the RFU (the last two did not focus exclusively on al Qaeda). Look at the technology disparity. NSA. Satellite technology. US intel has relationships with other state intelligence agencies (other state intelligence agencies having the same vast resource advantage over al Qaeda). Then factor in military intelligence and special forces capability.</p>
<p>Furthermore the alleged hijackers were not careful. They made blatant errors on VISA applications. Drew attention at a flight school by leaving the cockpit of a plane while it was on the runway. Moussaoui acted so suspiciously that he got arrested.</p>
<p>We are told Atta, Jarrah and al-Shehhi were students who became radicalized at the al-Quds mosque in Hamburg and were then recruited by al Qaeda. Students with some terrorist training in Afghanistan and some pilot training in the US vs. intelligence experts and counterterrorism professionals with years of training and the best resources available.</p>
<p><i>CIA Director Tenet finds the briefing Cofer Black just gave him (see July 10, 2001) so alarming that he calls National Security Adviser Rice from his car as he heads to the White House and says he needs to see her right away, even though he has regular weekly meetings with her. [Washington Post, 10/1/2006] Tenet, Black, and an unnamed third CIA official brief Rice on the latest intelligence. Deputy National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley and counterterrorism “tsar” Richard Clarke are also present.</i> <a HREF="http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=a071001tenetwarnsrice" rel="nofollow">LINK</a></p>
<p>Why weren&#8217;t Middleton (head of FBI&#8217;s UBLU), Frasca (head of FBI&#8217;s RFU) or Watson (head of FBI&#8217;s Counterterrorism Division) at this meeting? Didn&#8217;t the FBI have investigative jurisdiction in the US? As for the notion of a turf battle, Rice and Clarke weren&#8217;t CIA. In fact, their jobs entailed coordinating other agencies to a certain degree. Why didn&#8217;t they involve the FBI or at the very least give the FBI a full briefing afterwards? This doesn&#8217;t come across as incompetence. Rather, it suggests dereliction of duty at a minimum.</p>
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		<title>By: Marycatherine Barton</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/24/jacob-hornberger-3/#comment-17215</link>
		<dc:creator>Marycatherine Barton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul/Hornberger -- for dismantling our imperialistic federal government.  YES.  To go further, Decider/Dictator Bush recently told us "his people" that he was not interested in going after BinLaden, as an in-your-face statement that he had accomplished what he wanted by his invasion of the Mid-East, right under our noses with our dime, regime change more to his liking.  What a sleaze!  Latest studies show, how much more stress is the average Anerican now feeling, to the point that many more of us are having trouble sleeping, mainly due to worry about our financial security.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul/Hornberger &#8212; for dismantling our imperialistic federal government.  YES.  To go further, Decider/Dictator Bush recently told us &#8220;his people&#8221; that he was not interested in going after BinLaden, as an in-your-face statement that he had accomplished what he wanted by his invasion of the Mid-East, right under our noses with our dime, regime change more to his liking.  What a sleaze!  Latest studies show, how much more stress is the average Anerican now feeling, to the point that many more of us are having trouble sleeping, mainly due to worry about our financial security.</p>
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