Comments on: Editor Bob Vindicates the FBI http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/29/editor-bob-vindicates-the-fbi/ Tue, 7 Oct 2008 03:40:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: KoWT http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/29/editor-bob-vindicates-the-fbi/#comment-18246 KoWT Wed, 31 Oct 2007 00:15:19 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/29/editor-bob-vindicates-the-fbi/#comment-18246 all Bob is saying is give fear a chance all Bob is saying

is give fear a chance

]]> By: Bill aka NO DooDahs! http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/29/editor-bob-vindicates-the-fbi/#comment-18208 Bill aka NO DooDahs! Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:27:12 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/29/editor-bob-vindicates-the-fbi/#comment-18208 Suppose that a murderous cretins had information about a school building, occupied by 500 children, that was about to be blown up. Now further suppose that YOU, Bob Weir, Executive Editor of The News Connection (bobweir@thenewsconnection.com), were mistakenly identified as one of those "murderous cretins." Would YOU, Bob Weir, Executive Editor of The News Connection (bobweir@thenewsconnection.com), support the idea that the FBI should electroshock YOUR nuts off in an effort to find the bomb? Suppose the bomb went off, and YOU, Bob Weir, Executive Editor of The News Connection (bobweir@thenewsconnection.com), were mistakenly identified as one of those "murderous cretins." Would YOU, Bob Weir, Executive Editor of The News Connection (bobweir@thenewsconnection.com), then support the idea that the FBI should shove a cattle prod up your ass in an effort to procure a confession? Suppose that a murderous cretins had information about a school building, occupied by 500 children, that was about to be blown up. Now further suppose that YOU, Bob Weir, Executive Editor of The News Connection (bobweir@thenewsconnection.com), were mistakenly identified as one of those “murderous cretins.”

Would YOU, Bob Weir, Executive Editor of The News Connection (bobweir@thenewsconnection.com), support the idea that the FBI should electroshock YOUR nuts off in an effort to find the bomb?

Suppose the bomb went off, and YOU, Bob Weir, Executive Editor of The News Connection (bobweir@thenewsconnection.com), were mistakenly identified as one of those “murderous cretins.”

Would YOU, Bob Weir, Executive Editor of The News Connection (bobweir@thenewsconnection.com), then support the idea that the FBI should shove a cattle prod up your ass in an effort to procure a confession?

]]> By: mch http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/29/editor-bob-vindicates-the-fbi/#comment-18177 mch Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:32:09 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/29/editor-bob-vindicates-the-fbi/#comment-18177 Frankly, I find interesting Mr Weir's read on Adonis-like handsome men and their political power.\ http://thenewsconnection.com/article.cfm?articleID=2184 Frankly, I find interesting Mr Weir’s read on Adonis-like handsome men and their political power.\

http://thenewsconnection.com/article.cfm?articleID=2184

]]> By: Swami Barmi http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/29/editor-bob-vindicates-the-fbi/#comment-18143 Swami Barmi Tue, 30 Oct 2007 11:06:23 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/29/editor-bob-vindicates-the-fbi/#comment-18143 I've recently exchanged a number of emails with Bob Weir. He found it tremendously hard to stay on factual subjects. He resorted to hypothetical hysteria, straw men, red herrings, and ad hominem attacks against me (I must be a liberal, I hate our country though I've taken and taken and not given) though he knows absolutely nothing about me. Despite the fact that I said very little about my political beliefs, or really, anything outside of specific foreign policy regarding our current wars, he accused me of treason and said, "You delve into an abundance of articles looking to extract every negative about the US and then you hold it up as evidence to justify your hatred for the hand that feeds you. Perhaps you need to go hungry for awhile. When your stomach swells up and your tongue hangs out, you might be more appreciative of the food you take for granted." The irony of this socialist rant from an alleged conservative are lost on him. I'm still waiting from him to see how he's given to his country in a more "acceptable" way than my active duty military service. I’ve recently exchanged a number of emails with Bob Weir. He found it tremendously hard to stay on factual subjects. He resorted to hypothetical hysteria, straw men, red herrings, and ad hominem attacks against me (I must be a liberal, I hate our country though I’ve taken and taken and not given) though he knows absolutely nothing about me. Despite the fact that I said very little about my political beliefs, or really, anything outside of specific foreign policy regarding our current wars, he accused me of treason and said,

“You delve into an abundance of articles looking to extract every negative about the US and then you hold it up as evidence to justify your hatred for the hand that feeds you. Perhaps you need to go hungry for awhile. When your stomach swells up and your tongue hangs out, you might be more appreciative of the food you take for granted.”

The irony of this socialist rant from an alleged conservative are lost on him. I’m still waiting from him to see how he’s given to his country in a more “acceptable” way than my active duty military service.

]]> By: R. Nelson http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/29/editor-bob-vindicates-the-fbi/#comment-18126 R. Nelson Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:17:46 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/29/editor-bob-vindicates-the-fbi/#comment-18126 There once was a man named Bob Who everyone knew was a knob. As part of the Bush institution, He chewed up the Constitution Until it was only a gooey blob. There once was a man named Bob
Who everyone knew was a knob.
As part of the Bush institution,
He chewed up the Constitution
Until it was only a gooey blob.

]]> By: Tom Wood http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/29/editor-bob-vindicates-the-fbi/#comment-18116 Tom Wood Tue, 30 Oct 2007 03:37:20 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/29/editor-bob-vindicates-the-fbi/#comment-18116 What Mr. Weir missed in this incident is that the FBI picked up someone they could have tortured all day and all night and not gotten the information necessary to save those 500 schoolkids because THEY GOT THE WRONG GUY. His assumption is that whoever the FBI picks up is a terrorist, that they only pick up actual criminals and never any innocents. He, and his ilk, never acknowledge that. Anyway, I though we had a system that says innocent until proven guilty. Which is why the FBI's statement that a suspect has "surrendered the right to the truth" is so appalling; a suspect is not a criminal, at least not until tried and convicted, so that statement implies that the FBI has the right to lie to anyone at anytime. What Mr. Weir missed in this incident is that the FBI picked up someone they could have tortured all day and all night and not gotten the information necessary to save those 500 schoolkids because THEY GOT THE WRONG GUY. His assumption is that whoever the FBI picks up is a terrorist, that they only pick up actual criminals and never any innocents. He, and his ilk, never acknowledge that. Anyway, I though we had a system that says innocent until proven guilty. Which is why the FBI’s statement that a suspect has “surrendered the right to the truth” is so appalling; a suspect is not a criminal, at least not until tried and convicted, so that statement implies that the FBI has the right to lie to anyone at anytime.

]]> By: Barry http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/29/editor-bob-vindicates-the-fbi/#comment-18062 Barry Mon, 29 Oct 2007 23:03:15 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/29/editor-bob-vindicates-the-fbi/#comment-18062 Had this weir fellow been around in 1776, he no doubt would have answered Patrick Henry's question in the affirmative. Had this weir fellow been around in 1776, he no doubt would have answered Patrick Henry’s question in the affirmative.

]]> By: Vassili http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/29/editor-bob-vindicates-the-fbi/#comment-18060 Vassili Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:47:40 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/29/editor-bob-vindicates-the-fbi/#comment-18060 > if one of those murderous cretins had information about a school building, occupied by 500 children, that was about to be blown up, Apart from stupid Hollywood scenarios - how is it possible to know that THIS person has information about SOME school occupied by 500 children is going to be blown up? without knowing which school is it? To know WHO knows which school, but not knowing WHICH school? Oh, I know, if someone else, under torture, tells that THAT person knows that SOME school is going to be blown up with 500 children... I see... well, I guess with enough torture applied there is no need to search for any particular person, just grab a random person, make sure of course he is not some high ranking official from YOUR party, random alien on H1 visa is a good, safe choice - then torture him till he gives you the name of the person that knows a person that knows a person that knows that SOME school is going to be blown up with 500 children. Another plus of doing this to aliens is that they can be detained indefinately and withoug any factors inhibiting the "war on terror" joy - like a due process. But THAT law has been on books much earlier. Now, THAT is how it worked in Russia in 1937, now I see that very clearly. Thanks to Bob Weir for making it really clear. > if one of those murderous cretins had information about a school building, occupied by 500 children, that was about to be blown up,

Apart from stupid Hollywood scenarios - how is it possible to know that THIS person has information about SOME school occupied by 500 children is going to be blown up?

without knowing which school is it? To know WHO knows which school, but not knowing WHICH school?

Oh, I know, if someone else, under torture, tells that THAT person knows that SOME school is going to be blown up with 500 children…

I see… well, I guess with enough torture applied there is no need to search for any particular person, just grab a random person, make sure of course he is not some high ranking official from YOUR party, random alien on H1 visa is a good, safe choice - then torture him till he gives you the name of the person that knows a person that knows a person that knows that SOME school is going to be blown up with 500 children. Another plus of doing this to aliens is that they can be detained indefinately and withoug any factors inhibiting the “war on terror” joy - like a due process. But THAT law has been on books much earlier.

Now, THAT is how it worked in Russia in 1937, now I see that very clearly. Thanks to Bob Weir for making it really clear.

]]> By: Roy Whyte http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/29/editor-bob-vindicates-the-fbi/#comment-18058 Roy Whyte Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:38:52 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/29/editor-bob-vindicates-the-fbi/#comment-18058 Bob's response reads like someone who has become to believe 24 is real. Bob’s response reads like someone who has become to believe 24 is real.

]]> By: Ryan http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/29/editor-bob-vindicates-the-fbi/#comment-18038 Ryan Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:39:18 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/29/editor-bob-vindicates-the-fbi/#comment-18038 Jim, I think Bob Weir won't be able to work as a spokesman for the White House. I believe he is one of the cretins on the Town Hall blog who is too busy defaming Ron Paul over a cheap Michael Medved smear. He'd fit right in with some of those people. Jim,

I think Bob Weir won’t be able to work as a spokesman for the White House. I believe he is one of the cretins on the Town Hall blog who is too busy defaming Ron Paul over a cheap Michael Medved smear. He’d fit right in with some of those people.

]]> By: Scott Thomason http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/29/editor-bob-vindicates-the-fbi/#comment-18022 Scott Thomason Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:28:58 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/29/editor-bob-vindicates-the-fbi/#comment-18022 Not exactly sure how to respond to editor Bob's sagacious analysis of the situation. Assuming he has no unknown, vested interest in supporting the Bush regime, perhaps we can merely chalk this one up as yet another failure of American schooling (hey, I'm open to other theories). Nevermind the immorality of torture. How about self interest? That a man feels little alarm from allowing executive waterboarding, sensory deprivation, etc.; that he cannot see the thin line between torturing foreign terrorists who fight freedom and torturing domestic (American) dissenters who fight the spreading of freedom via conquest is...astounding. When exactly has such a powermad government ever been so nice, so discriminating? The truly frightening thing is that the land of the free abounds with equally naive prolls. Not exactly sure how to respond to editor Bob’s sagacious analysis of the situation. Assuming he has no unknown, vested interest in supporting the Bush regime, perhaps we can merely chalk this one up as yet another failure of American schooling (hey, I’m open to other theories). Nevermind the immorality of torture. How about self interest? That a man feels little alarm from allowing executive waterboarding, sensory deprivation, etc.; that he cannot see the thin line between torturing foreign terrorists who fight freedom and torturing domestic (American) dissenters who fight the spreading of freedom via conquest is…astounding. When exactly has such a powermad government ever been so nice, so discriminating? The truly frightening thing is that the land of the free abounds with equally naive prolls.

]]> By: James Bovard http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/29/editor-bob-vindicates-the-fbi/#comment-18021 James Bovard Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:27:57 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/10/29/editor-bob-vindicates-the-fbi/#comment-18021 I assume Bob was referring to me. I haven't applied for the position of Homeland Security czar, in part because I don't think I could reconcile the official duties with my obligations as an amateur beer taster. I assume Bob was referring to me.

I haven’t applied for the position of Homeland Security czar, in part because I don’t think I could reconcile the official duties with my obligations as an amateur beer taster.

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