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		<title>By: Peter Biddulph, England</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Biddulph, England</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 11:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello John,

Not quite sure that "introspection" is the correct jibe. In fact, I've been researching in depth your nation's foreign policy and covert actions (as far as your "freedom of information" will allow) for ten years now. All in connection with the historical background to the Lockerbie bombing. You can check me out on the Jim Swire/Peter Biddulph Lockerbie website.

Take it from me, it's a shocking history, flowing with the blood of innocents, from Nicaragua through to Iraq. You may not be aware, but one of the leading operatives in Iran-Contra, a man who in the mid eighties entertained and funded Osama Bin Laden and the Mujahedeen, is the very same man put by your president in charge of the CIA Lockerbie investigation.  Sure enough under his management up popped the only fragment of the bomb ever found (strange that). And who did it point to? Well, Libya. A convenient, weak, poorly run, poorly armed target. And the real culprit? Iran. A strong, well armed, and difficult target. 

Meanwhile, as a second appeal by the Libyan convict is attempted, your nation is covertly working with other nations to ensure that a secret report relating to that same bomb fragment is to be with-held from the defence team and the appeal court. Two hearings have taken place, and the British government is now talking about a Public Interest Immunity Certificate, to make sure that just about nobody ever sees the report. American values in action? 

And my funny sounding name? Well, like the hero of The Crucible, written by "communist sympathiser" Arthur Miller, I am proud of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello John,</p>
<p>Not quite sure that &#8220;introspection&#8221; is the correct jibe. In fact, I&#8217;ve been researching in depth your nation&#8217;s foreign policy and covert actions (as far as your &#8220;freedom of information&#8221; will allow) for ten years now. All in connection with the historical background to the Lockerbie bombing. You can check me out on the Jim Swire/Peter Biddulph Lockerbie website.</p>
<p>Take it from me, it&#8217;s a shocking history, flowing with the blood of innocents, from Nicaragua through to Iraq. You may not be aware, but one of the leading operatives in Iran-Contra, a man who in the mid eighties entertained and funded Osama Bin Laden and the Mujahedeen, is the very same man put by your president in charge of the CIA Lockerbie investigation.  Sure enough under his management up popped the only fragment of the bomb ever found (strange that). And who did it point to? Well, Libya. A convenient, weak, poorly run, poorly armed target. And the real culprit? Iran. A strong, well armed, and difficult target. </p>
<p>Meanwhile, as a second appeal by the Libyan convict is attempted, your nation is covertly working with other nations to ensure that a secret report relating to that same bomb fragment is to be with-held from the defence team and the appeal court. Two hearings have taken place, and the British government is now talking about a Public Interest Immunity Certificate, to make sure that just about nobody ever sees the report. American values in action? </p>
<p>And my funny sounding name? Well, like the hero of The Crucible, written by &#8220;communist sympathiser&#8221; Arthur Miller, I am proud of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenneth</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/12/07/cnn-a-casualty-of-iran-nie/#comment-73891</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenneth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wadosy- Get off the accusatory tone, will you?  Before you intimate that I am complacent about American power, examine my prior writings on the subject as well as my reasons for believing as I do.  I know all too well what Washington's elite are capable of, I merely believe that the whole "Bush did 9/11" shtick offers nothing in the way of explanation or historical context, with its followers frequently attempting intellectual blackmail against those who question it.  The resource war theory merely externalizes internal imperatives and ignores the structural dynamics of an economic regime in which one power is overwhelmingly dominant and bears the burden of facilitating global as well as domestic capital accumulation.  Appeals to personal experience don't help your case, either.  I find your examination of Israel's current dilemma incisive and your points about global warming thought-provoking, but I don't believe this adequately accounts for America's antics in Iraq and elsewhere.  The deliberate splintering of Iraqi society along sectarian lines suggests something more than merely the desire to obtain oil, for which purpose an alliance with Saddam would have been more than adequate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wadosy- Get off the accusatory tone, will you?  Before you intimate that I am complacent about American power, examine my prior writings on the subject as well as my reasons for believing as I do.  I know all too well what Washington&#8217;s elite are capable of, I merely believe that the whole &#8220;Bush did 9/11&#8243; shtick offers nothing in the way of explanation or historical context, with its followers frequently attempting intellectual blackmail against those who question it.  The resource war theory merely externalizes internal imperatives and ignores the structural dynamics of an economic regime in which one power is overwhelmingly dominant and bears the burden of facilitating global as well as domestic capital accumulation.  Appeals to personal experience don&#8217;t help your case, either.  I find your examination of Israel&#8217;s current dilemma incisive and your points about global warming thought-provoking, but I don&#8217;t believe this adequately accounts for America&#8217;s antics in Iraq and elsewhere.  The deliberate splintering of Iraqi society along sectarian lines suggests something more than merely the desire to obtain oil, for which purpose an alliance with Saddam would have been more than adequate.</p>
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		<title>By: wadosy</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/12/07/cnn-a-casualty-of-iran-nie/#comment-73829</link>
		<dc:creator>wadosy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>believe what you want. if you're 18 years old, you're problably got lots of time left to learn the hard way, just like i did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>believe what you want. if you&#8217;re 18 years old, you&#8217;re problably got lots of time left to learn the hard way, just like i did.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenneth</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/12/07/cnn-a-casualty-of-iran-nie/#comment-73824</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenneth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My previous statements already allow this, and in any case it is simply a &lt;i&gt;cui bono&lt;/i&gt; argument that proves nothing by itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My previous statements already allow this, and in any case it is simply a <i>cui bono</i> argument that proves nothing by itself.</p>
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		<title>By: wadosy</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/12/07/cnn-a-casualty-of-iran-nie/#comment-73319</link>
		<dc:creator>wadosy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>crude oil and condensate production peaked in may of 2005. there are lots of new projects coming on line, but the megafields have all peaked and seem to be declining faster than the new stuff shows up...  the new stuff comes from much smaller, more difficult fields, like under 7 or 8 thousand feet of water and another 20,000 of dirt....

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&#38;q=crude+condensate+%22may+2005%22

but never fear, because if global warming progresses as predicted, exxon will be able to drill the north pole... which i spose is cause for concern in israel, seeing as how they've run the palestinians into the hill country which israel now needs to escape possible flooding from global warming.

i guess it's no wonder that the israeli american think tank, the AEI, is allied with exxon in denying global warming, and exxon is allied with CERA and daniel yergin in denying peak oil, since the background motive for 9/11 is global warming, and the triggering motive was peak oil.

if you can deny that your motive exists, you can eliminate yourself from the suspect pool...

exxon is allied with the neocons for another reason: it expects to get first shot at oil grabbed in the project.


motive, means, opportunity and character... who are the most likely suspects for 9/11?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>crude oil and condensate production peaked in may of 2005. there are lots of new projects coming on line, but the megafields have all peaked and seem to be declining faster than the new stuff shows up&#8230;  the new stuff comes from much smaller, more difficult fields, like under 7 or 8 thousand feet of water and another 20,000 of dirt&#8230;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;q=crude+condensate+%22may+2005%22" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;q=crude+condensate+%22may+2005%22</a></p>
<p>but never fear, because if global warming progresses as predicted, exxon will be able to drill the north pole&#8230; which i spose is cause for concern in israel, seeing as how they&#8217;ve run the palestinians into the hill country which israel now needs to escape possible flooding from global warming.</p>
<p>i guess it&#8217;s no wonder that the israeli american think tank, the AEI, is allied with exxon in denying global warming, and exxon is allied with CERA and daniel yergin in denying peak oil, since the background motive for 9/11 is global warming, and the triggering motive was peak oil.</p>
<p>if you can deny that your motive exists, you can eliminate yourself from the suspect pool&#8230;</p>
<p>exxon is allied with the neocons for another reason: it expects to get first shot at oil grabbed in the project.</p>
<p>motive, means, opportunity and character&#8230; who are the most likely suspects for 9/11?</p>
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		<title>By: Kenneth</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/12/07/cnn-a-casualty-of-iran-nie/#comment-73313</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenneth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting interpretation, though I find it somewhat reductive.  The point about global warming is an astute one.  Peak oil, I'm aware, is definitely a problem, but when is it set to occur?  Perhaps you could link to some data on this topic?  It's been a while since I investigated it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting interpretation, though I find it somewhat reductive.  The point about global warming is an astute one.  Peak oil, I&#8217;m aware, is definitely a problem, but when is it set to occur?  Perhaps you could link to some data on this topic?  It&#8217;s been a while since I investigated it.</p>
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		<title>By: wadosy</title>
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		<dc:creator>wadosy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry, kenneth, but there's just way too much history behind israel's intent, there's just way too much evidence that israel controls american foreign policy, there's just way too much evidence, which seems to grow every day, that global warming and peak oil are the real deals... 

if the Project for the New American Century fails to grab enough control of oil to allow the neocons to ration oil to china and india, global warming is gonna get so far out of hand that israel will eventually face an 80-meter sea level rise... which will flood the 70% of the israeli population that lives on the coastal plain...

...but the kicker is that israel's protector, america, is vulnerable to peak oil... because america has been built from the ground up on the idea of cheap oil forever... and peak oil is the imminent threat.

...so the high ground for israel has to be grabbed before israel's protector implodes from oil shortages and other problems caused by looters who see that, no matter what, america is in terminal decline because of its dependence on cheap oil.

so israel will use america up in an effort to preserve itself... and israel must be preserved because it is the refuge of last resort for the ashkenazi war criminals who are pushing this project... if you want to see how this "refuge of last resort" business works, guess where the yukos oil and media guys fled to when putin cracked down on the oligarchs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry, kenneth, but there&#8217;s just way too much history behind israel&#8217;s intent, there&#8217;s just way too much evidence that israel controls american foreign policy, there&#8217;s just way too much evidence, which seems to grow every day, that global warming and peak oil are the real deals&#8230; </p>
<p>if the Project for the New American Century fails to grab enough control of oil to allow the neocons to ration oil to china and india, global warming is gonna get so far out of hand that israel will eventually face an 80-meter sea level rise&#8230; which will flood the 70% of the israeli population that lives on the coastal plain&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;but the kicker is that israel&#8217;s protector, america, is vulnerable to peak oil&#8230; because america has been built from the ground up on the idea of cheap oil forever&#8230; and peak oil is the imminent threat.</p>
<p>&#8230;so the high ground for israel has to be grabbed before israel&#8217;s protector implodes from oil shortages and other problems caused by looters who see that, no matter what, america is in terminal decline because of its dependence on cheap oil.</p>
<p>so israel will use america up in an effort to preserve itself&#8230; and israel must be preserved because it is the refuge of last resort for the ashkenazi war criminals who are pushing this project&#8230; if you want to see how this &#8220;refuge of last resort&#8221; business works, guess where the yukos oil and media guys fled to when putin cracked down on the oligarchs.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenneth</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/12/07/cnn-a-casualty-of-iran-nie/#comment-73261</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenneth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand all of it.  This solipsistic catchphrase is little more than a metaphor, however, for both propaganda and the power to mould the world that resides in Washington.  Naturally, PNAC's goon squad is running amok and letting their world know of their intentions but it doesn't demonstrate anything other than a fleeting triumphalism destined to implode with the value of the American dollar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand all of it.  This solipsistic catchphrase is little more than a metaphor, however, for both propaganda and the power to mould the world that resides in Washington.  Naturally, PNAC&#8217;s goon squad is running amok and letting their world know of their intentions but it doesn&#8217;t demonstrate anything other than a fleeting triumphalism destined to implode with the value of the American dollar.</p>
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		<title>By: wadosy</title>
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		<dc:creator>wadosy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 05:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what part of "we're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality" do you not understand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what part of &#8220;we&#8217;re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality&#8221; do you not understand?</p>
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		<title>By: Kenneth</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/12/07/cnn-a-casualty-of-iran-nie/#comment-73232</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenneth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 05:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not insinuating that Osama is behind it all.  What I'm arguing is that a confluence of developments occurred which was most fortunate for both the Administration and the American Empire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not insinuating that Osama is behind it all.  What I&#8217;m arguing is that a confluence of developments occurred which was most fortunate for both the Administration and the American Empire.</p>
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		<title>By: wadosy</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/12/07/cnn-a-casualty-of-iran-nie/#comment-73227</link>
		<dc:creator>wadosy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 05:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, it's just too bad that those PNAC guys came right out and admitted they needed a new pearl harbor, isnt it? ...especially seeing as how they had juice enough to get themselves installed a couple months later into position powerful enough to make their new pearl harbor happen...

...but i spose they never figured anyone but the in crowd would pay any attention to one little sentence buried in the middle of a long, detailed description of the neocons' plan to achieve "benevolent global hegemony".


anyhow, here's how it must have happened:

osama was on the internet one day, and stumbled across PNAC's call for a new pearl harbor, and osama sez to himself, "huh! i'll fix those guys' wagons! i will stage a new pearl harbor for them! ...and everyone will think those nitwits from PNAC dun it!" 

so osama rigged the 2000 election so the signers of the PNAC document, people like cheney, rumsfeld and the usual assortment of likud loons, got installed into positions that would have enabled them to make 9/11 happen, had they been inclined to make 9/11 happen, which they were most definitely NOT ---despite their yearnings for a new pearl harbor as expressed in the PNAC document they signed..... 

then osama organized everything, from the training of the pilots to the security at the airports to the standdown at NORAD to oneill's job at the trade center, including bunnypants' month-long absence from dc while all this stuff was coming down. 

osama even dispatched five mossad guys to film the event.... 

well, you know what they say about the best laid plans of mice and men... little did osama know that the PNAC guys had enough juice to reverse the frameup, and osama found hisself dragging his dialysis machine from pillar to post in an effort to escape the wrath of PNAC. 

it's a sad sad thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, it&#8217;s just too bad that those PNAC guys came right out and admitted they needed a new pearl harbor, isnt it? &#8230;especially seeing as how they had juice enough to get themselves installed a couple months later into position powerful enough to make their new pearl harbor happen&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;but i spose they never figured anyone but the in crowd would pay any attention to one little sentence buried in the middle of a long, detailed description of the neocons&#8217; plan to achieve &#8220;benevolent global hegemony&#8221;.</p>
<p>anyhow, here&#8217;s how it must have happened:</p>
<p>osama was on the internet one day, and stumbled across PNAC&#8217;s call for a new pearl harbor, and osama sez to himself, &#8220;huh! i&#8217;ll fix those guys&#8217; wagons! i will stage a new pearl harbor for them! &#8230;and everyone will think those nitwits from PNAC dun it!&#8221; </p>
<p>so osama rigged the 2000 election so the signers of the PNAC document, people like cheney, rumsfeld and the usual assortment of likud loons, got installed into positions that would have enabled them to make 9/11 happen, had they been inclined to make 9/11 happen, which they were most definitely NOT &#8212;despite their yearnings for a new pearl harbor as expressed in the PNAC document they signed&#8230;.. </p>
<p>then osama organized everything, from the training of the pilots to the security at the airports to the standdown at NORAD to oneill&#8217;s job at the trade center, including bunnypants&#8217; month-long absence from dc while all this stuff was coming down. </p>
<p>osama even dispatched five mossad guys to film the event&#8230;. </p>
<p>well, you know what they say about the best laid plans of mice and men&#8230; little did osama know that the PNAC guys had enough juice to reverse the frameup, and osama found hisself dragging his dialysis machine from pillar to post in an effort to escape the wrath of PNAC. </p>
<p>it&#8217;s a sad sad thing.</p>
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		<title>By: wadosy</title>
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		<dc:creator>wadosy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 05:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, kenneth.

here's how it must have happened: osama was on the internet one day, and stumbled across PNAC's call for a new pearl harbor, and osama sez to himself, "huh! i'll fix those guys' wagons! i will stage a new pearl harbor for them! ...and everyone will think those assholes from PNAC dun it!" 

so osama rigged the 2000 election so the signers of the PNAC document, people like cheney, rumsfeld and the usual assortment of likud loons, got installed into positions that would have enabled them to make 9/11 happen, had they been inclined to make 9/11 happen, which they were most definitely NOT ---despite their yearnings for a new pearl harbor as expressed in the PNAC document they signed..... 

then osama organized everything, from the training of the pilots to the security at the airports to the standdown at NORAD to oneill's job at the trade center, including bunnypants' month-long absence from dc while the shit was coming down. 

osama even dispatched five mossad guys to film the event.... 

well, you know what they say about the best laid plans of mice and men... little did osama know that the PNAC guys had enough juice to reverse the frameup, and osama found hisself dragging his dialysis machine from pillar to post in an effort to escape the wrath of PNAC. 

it's a sad sad thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, kenneth.</p>
<p>here&#8217;s how it must have happened: osama was on the internet one day, and stumbled across PNAC&#8217;s call for a new pearl harbor, and osama sez to himself, &#8220;huh! i&#8217;ll fix those guys&#8217; wagons! i will stage a new pearl harbor for them! &#8230;and everyone will think those assholes from PNAC dun it!&#8221; </p>
<p>so osama rigged the 2000 election so the signers of the PNAC document, people like cheney, rumsfeld and the usual assortment of likud loons, got installed into positions that would have enabled them to make 9/11 happen, had they been inclined to make 9/11 happen, which they were most definitely NOT &#8212;despite their yearnings for a new pearl harbor as expressed in the PNAC document they signed&#8230;.. </p>
<p>then osama organized everything, from the training of the pilots to the security at the airports to the standdown at NORAD to oneill&#8217;s job at the trade center, including bunnypants&#8217; month-long absence from dc while the shit was coming down. </p>
<p>osama even dispatched five mossad guys to film the event&#8230;. </p>
<p>well, you know what they say about the best laid plans of mice and men&#8230; little did osama know that the PNAC guys had enough juice to reverse the frameup, and osama found hisself dragging his dialysis machine from pillar to post in an effort to escape the wrath of PNAC. </p>
<p>it&#8217;s a sad sad thing.</p>
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