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		<title>By: josiah</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/12/24/george-washington-no-torture-on-my-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-163958</link>
		<dc:creator>josiah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wat the f r u taling about ppl u guys r bumdass</description>
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		<title>By: Reed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 00:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had to read this blog knowing such outrageous statements are spawn in the fevered swamps of the leftist and the eye-popping leaps of logic of the moral relativist. Throughout history certain eras have had greater trends of evil as seen in all countries&#039; despicable behavior, yet our beloved America has continually been a leader and example of the better angels of human character.  This absolutly includes President Bush today who wisely would allow water boarding in &quot;ticking bomb situations&quot; while our mortal enemies film beheadings and send copies to the families. This includes Abu Graib where the worst that happened to prisoners most leftists pay to have a similar type of fun while Saddam had rape rooms for family members to watch many thousands of murders.  Many soldiers are in prison now and Saddam has been executed thanks to American justice and yes, Mr. Bush.  From Haiti to Tuskegee the exagerated conspiracy theories always deny the eventual hand of American justice. America has given more financial aid to Haiti and Surinam than all others combined(both countries have killed more of their own people before lunch). Tuskegee patients&#039; families and black doctors eventually were paid over ten million dollars while a few years later Castro murdered all the native population of Cuba.  Mao was in the process of murdering twenty-five million of his own people; Stalin too. Genocide in many African countries is common;  tens of millions massacred.  This is where leftists need to live since it&#039;s all the same; Hitler is like Lincoln and Bush is another Hitler. George Washington made his own slaves freemen and met with respect native Americans who also respected him, though they practiced scalping, eating a fallen warriors heart, and many, many other like attrocities that most Americans of Washingtons day would have to be taught. Saudi Arabia was forced to make salvery illegal in 1964!, where human trafficing is still very common. And giving leave to our better angels also includes that Israel most definitaly has every right to exist though Israels&#039; &quot;neighbors&quot; (if some had nuclear weapons) would have already used them on this tiny nation.  The Palestinians and the Ottoman Turks who both loved and supported Hitler said in the Turkish cencus of 1850 that even then, Jews were the majority.  Muslims weren&#039;t even second in population in Palestine, Christians were, with Muslims third. Christians do not suicide bomb innocents (or any one else) nor do they teach their children such.  Jews have been the majority there for 3600 years mostly under terrible foreign domination.  Today all religons are prominently seen in Israel unlike any of Israels&#039; &quot;neighbors&quot;. The Jordanians didn&#039;t want the so called PLO so Jordon removed them forcibly(killing more than Israel ever has) and doesn&#039;t want them back.  Jordan is the true &quot;Palistinian&quot; homeland, but relativists and haters must inflict Israel as has been foretold in the Holy scriptures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to read this blog knowing such outrageous statements are spawn in the fevered swamps of the leftist and the eye-popping leaps of logic of the moral relativist. Throughout history certain eras have had greater trends of evil as seen in all countries&#8217; despicable behavior, yet our beloved America has continually been a leader and example of the better angels of human character.  This absolutly includes President Bush today who wisely would allow water boarding in &#8220;ticking bomb situations&#8221; while our mortal enemies film beheadings and send copies to the families. This includes Abu Graib where the worst that happened to prisoners most leftists pay to have a similar type of fun while Saddam had rape rooms for family members to watch many thousands of murders.  Many soldiers are in prison now and Saddam has been executed thanks to American justice and yes, Mr. Bush.  From Haiti to Tuskegee the exagerated conspiracy theories always deny the eventual hand of American justice. America has given more financial aid to Haiti and Surinam than all others combined(both countries have killed more of their own people before lunch). Tuskegee patients&#8217; families and black doctors eventually were paid over ten million dollars while a few years later Castro murdered all the native population of Cuba.  Mao was in the process of murdering twenty-five million of his own people; Stalin too. Genocide in many African countries is common;  tens of millions massacred.  This is where leftists need to live since it&#8217;s all the same; Hitler is like Lincoln and Bush is another Hitler. George Washington made his own slaves freemen and met with respect native Americans who also respected him, though they practiced scalping, eating a fallen warriors heart, and many, many other like attrocities that most Americans of Washingtons day would have to be taught. Saudi Arabia was forced to make salvery illegal in 1964!, where human trafficing is still very common. And giving leave to our better angels also includes that Israel most definitaly has every right to exist though Israels&#8217; &#8220;neighbors&#8221; (if some had nuclear weapons) would have already used them on this tiny nation.  The Palestinians and the Ottoman Turks who both loved and supported Hitler said in the Turkish cencus of 1850 that even then, Jews were the majority.  Muslims weren&#8217;t even second in population in Palestine, Christians were, with Muslims third. Christians do not suicide bomb innocents (or any one else) nor do they teach their children such.  Jews have been the majority there for 3600 years mostly under terrible foreign domination.  Today all religons are prominently seen in Israel unlike any of Israels&#8217; &#8220;neighbors&#8221;. The Jordanians didn&#8217;t want the so called PLO so Jordon removed them forcibly(killing more than Israel ever has) and doesn&#8217;t want them back.  Jordan is the true &#8220;Palistinian&#8221; homeland, but relativists and haters must inflict Israel as has been foretold in the Holy scriptures.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter O.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter O.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 19:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Washington was a flawed man, as were all the Founding Fathers.  

Yet, despite their flaws, they established a form of government that is arguably the best the world has yet seen.  

They also executed their public responsibilities with about as much virtue as has ever been seen (with the possible exception of Caesar Augustus).  Washington could have been King --- many people asked him to do so --- yet he refused.  He could have been President for life, but he declined a third term.  He had unfettered military power throughout most of the Revolutionary war, but he conspicuously deferred to the civilian Continental Congress.

The Founders understood the paradox that slavery posed for country based on the statement that &quot;all men are created equal and are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights,&quot; but they realized that solving this paradox was beyond their capabilities.  Many believed that slavery would wither and die --- as it might have done if cotton had not supplanted tobacco as the South&#039;s primary cash crop.  Even Lincoln didn&#039;t free all the slaves, but only those who remained in the unconquered Confederacy, and thus out of the reach of his Emancipation.

The Founders were not perfect, but the nation they founded and the Constitution they crafted --- flawed though they were --- has provided the basis for civil rights we all deserve --- and mostly enjoy --- today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Washington was a flawed man, as were all the Founding Fathers.  </p>
<p>Yet, despite their flaws, they established a form of government that is arguably the best the world has yet seen.  </p>
<p>They also executed their public responsibilities with about as much virtue as has ever been seen (with the possible exception of Caesar Augustus).  Washington could have been King &#8212; many people asked him to do so &#8212; yet he refused.  He could have been President for life, but he declined a third term.  He had unfettered military power throughout most of the Revolutionary war, but he conspicuously deferred to the civilian Continental Congress.</p>
<p>The Founders understood the paradox that slavery posed for country based on the statement that &#8220;all men are created equal and are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights,&#8221; but they realized that solving this paradox was beyond their capabilities.  Many believed that slavery would wither and die &#8212; as it might have done if cotton had not supplanted tobacco as the South&#8217;s primary cash crop.  Even Lincoln didn&#8217;t free all the slaves, but only those who remained in the unconquered Confederacy, and thus out of the reach of his Emancipation.</p>
<p>The Founders were not perfect, but the nation they founded and the Constitution they crafted &#8212; flawed though they were &#8212; has provided the basis for civil rights we all deserve &#8212; and mostly enjoy &#8212; today.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter O.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter O.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 18:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only did Washington free his slaves, he left the bulk of his estate to provide pensions for them.</description>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 04:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Islamic terrorism = impotent boogeyman

Fanatical muslims have ZERO ability to impose shiara law upon America. Mentally unbalanced Americans going on shooting sprees are a more realistic threat, but you don&#039;t see me wetting my pants about it and offering my rights to big brother to protect me from the trenchcoat mafia.

Grow a pair, and quit being frightened of shadows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Islamic terrorism = impotent boogeyman</p>
<p>Fanatical muslims have ZERO ability to impose shiara law upon America. Mentally unbalanced Americans going on shooting sprees are a more realistic threat, but you don&#8217;t see me wetting my pants about it and offering my rights to big brother to protect me from the trenchcoat mafia.</p>
<p>Grow a pair, and quit being frightened of shadows.</p>
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		<title>By: Francis Marion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francis Marion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 02:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By your logic, no colony had a right to rebel, as they all existed by grants of English kings. The idea of the whole pack of Yankeedom having to surrender their land via a mentally twisted hairsplitting of the concept of property rights, however, is most amusing to contemplate. Imagine all those Yankee slavers having to go out of business!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By your logic, no colony had a right to rebel, as they all existed by grants of English kings. The idea of the whole pack of Yankeedom having to surrender their land via a mentally twisted hairsplitting of the concept of property rights, however, is most amusing to contemplate. Imagine all those Yankee slavers having to go out of business!</p>
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		<title>By: profnasty</title>
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		<dc:creator>profnasty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 01:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a time and a place to criticize America&#039;s early crimes. This is not the time. The US arsenal is able and willing to commit such a grand catastrophe as the world has never known. Washington was America&#039;s founder, and a  hero. He was the Saddam Hussein of his time,,,and he won. First principle,&#039;I would cut off my arm before I would tell a lie.&#039; Paraphrase but true. Second principle, here  on report, &#039;torture is WRONG&#039;. Paraphrase.  God Bless George Washington. God Bless America. God Damn George W. Bush. Israel has no &quot;Right&quot; to exist. Reshape Palestine, free for ALL religions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a time and a place to criticize America&#8217;s early crimes. This is not the time. The US arsenal is able and willing to commit such a grand catastrophe as the world has never known. Washington was America&#8217;s founder, and a  hero. He was the Saddam Hussein of his time,,,and he won. First principle,&#8217;I would cut off my arm before I would tell a lie.&#8217; Paraphrase but true. Second principle, here  on report, &#8216;torture is WRONG&#8217;. Paraphrase.  God Bless George Washington. God Bless America. God Damn George W. Bush. Israel has no &#8220;Right&#8221; to exist. Reshape Palestine, free for ALL religions.</p>
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		<title>By: profnasty</title>
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		<dc:creator>profnasty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 01:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thankyou for your thoughts. Your question is salient. What did happen to passengers on flights which seemingly are  unaccounted for? #1, the second tower plane clearly had a radar dome (sic) on it&#039;s underbelly. This is NOT a passenger jet. Pentagon jetliner? C&#039;mon now. Pennsylvania jet? Big Hole? No plane.  Upshot...no investigation. Bush/Israel/neocons did not investigate 911. Coverup is &#039;proof&#039; of guilt. Where are the passengers, or were the flights authentic to begin with? In any case, it seems certain &#039;Osama&#039; had nothing to do with it. More clues, Lucky Larry, Dov Zakheim, Alan Chertoff, Whatsitsname Zelnikov, and now Michelle Mukasey. So many Jews, so little time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thankyou for your thoughts. Your question is salient. What did happen to passengers on flights which seemingly are  unaccounted for? #1, the second tower plane clearly had a radar dome (sic) on it&#8217;s underbelly. This is NOT a passenger jet. Pentagon jetliner? C&#8217;mon now. Pennsylvania jet? Big Hole? No plane.  Upshot&#8230;no investigation. Bush/Israel/neocons did not investigate 911. Coverup is &#8216;proof&#8217; of guilt. Where are the passengers, or were the flights authentic to begin with? In any case, it seems certain &#8216;Osama&#8217; had nothing to do with it. More clues, Lucky Larry, Dov Zakheim, Alan Chertoff, Whatsitsname Zelnikov, and now Michelle Mukasey. So many Jews, so little time.</p>
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		<title>By: Stanley Laham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stanley Laham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 01:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter C

It started even before the School of the Americas. Here is a little passage from &quot;The Taking of Tigert Hall&quot;:

 &quot;President Wilson ordered official investigations and there were Senate hearings on reports of abuse, torture and summary executions of Haitians by Marines. Below are parts of an article in the Nation, by American journalist Herbert J. Seligman, that caused a sensation in the summer of 1920.

“Five years of American Occupation, from 1915 to 1920, have served as a commentary upon the white civilization which still burns black men and women at the stake. For Haitian men, women and children, to a number estimated at 3000, innocent of any offense, have been shot down by American machine-gun and rifle bullets; black men have been put to the torture....theft, arson and murder have been committed almost with impunity...by white men wearing the uniforms of the United States.”

Alarm also came from Haitian intellectuals who accused the occupation forces of “butchery of women and children, massacre of prisoners, use of man-eating dogs specially trained in the Phillipines in questioning resistance fighters...” in their counterinsurgency campaign. We have always taken such anecdotes from long ago with a grain of salt, knowing the Haitian propensity for exaggeration. But again, the revelations of Seymour Hersh on the horrors at Abu Ghraib, replete with pictures of terrorized, naked prisoners tied to iron cell bars with American soldiers sticking ferocious dogs upon them and inflicting terrible wounds, lend a lot of credence to the stories of old.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter C</p>
<p>It started even before the School of the Americas. Here is a little passage from &#8220;The Taking of Tigert Hall&#8221;:</p>
<p> &#8220;President Wilson ordered official investigations and there were Senate hearings on reports of abuse, torture and summary executions of Haitians by Marines. Below are parts of an article in the Nation, by American journalist Herbert J. Seligman, that caused a sensation in the summer of 1920.</p>
<p>“Five years of American Occupation, from 1915 to 1920, have served as a commentary upon the white civilization which still burns black men and women at the stake. For Haitian men, women and children, to a number estimated at 3000, innocent of any offense, have been shot down by American machine-gun and rifle bullets; black men have been put to the torture&#8230;.theft, arson and murder have been committed almost with impunity&#8230;by white men wearing the uniforms of the United States.”</p>
<p>Alarm also came from Haitian intellectuals who accused the occupation forces of “butchery of women and children, massacre of prisoners, use of man-eating dogs specially trained in the Phillipines in questioning resistance fighters&#8230;” in their counterinsurgency campaign. We have always taken such anecdotes from long ago with a grain of salt, knowing the Haitian propensity for exaggeration. But again, the revelations of Seymour Hersh on the horrors at Abu Ghraib, replete with pictures of terrorized, naked prisoners tied to iron cell bars with American soldiers sticking ferocious dogs upon them and inflicting terrible wounds, lend a lot of credence to the stories of old.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Stanley Laham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stanley Laham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 23:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My question was rhetorical. I was pointing to historical precedents. I am quite well versed in classical mechanics(Newtonian physics), relativistic mechanics and quantum mechanics, thank you! Leave your pedantic swipe for someone else. 

Here is a little quote from a letter to the editor I wrote almost 4 years ago:

&quot;And then, miraculously, the bearded scum, created and nurtured by the CIA-DI to destabilize the Soviet Union, who supposedly could not even converse on a cell phone without a Tomahawk missile zeroing in on him, masterminded this marvel of simultaneous precision attacks on multiple targets in the US, using hijacked jumbo jets, piloted by totally under-trained patsies. It would be extremely difficult indeed for an airline pilot to maneuver a giant 757, 20 feet off the ground, following the avenues of Washington D.C. without winging any obstacles, and accomplish the amazing feat of coming in horizontally through the first floor of the Pentagon. Yet, we must readily believe that this was done by a Muslim zealot who trained mostly on piper cubs and computer simulators. 
    
Even more incredulous is the non-existent remains of the crash in Pennsylvania where everything was vaporized by the tremendous impact and hellish heat, except, miraculously, the hijackers&#039; suitcases containing, for some inexplicable purpose, instructions and prayers on paper.The very evidence that was needed to implicate Arab terrorists. Some paper this paper with higher combustion point than metal, including titanium!&quot;

Since you insist for a next question, then I will pose one to you smarty pants.  If whatever crashed into the pentagon was not a commercial airliner, then how was the real flight and its passengers disappeared in this conspiracy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My question was rhetorical. I was pointing to historical precedents. I am quite well versed in classical mechanics(Newtonian physics), relativistic mechanics and quantum mechanics, thank you! Leave your pedantic swipe for someone else. </p>
<p>Here is a little quote from a letter to the editor I wrote almost 4 years ago:</p>
<p>&#8220;And then, miraculously, the bearded scum, created and nurtured by the CIA-DI to destabilize the Soviet Union, who supposedly could not even converse on a cell phone without a Tomahawk missile zeroing in on him, masterminded this marvel of simultaneous precision attacks on multiple targets in the US, using hijacked jumbo jets, piloted by totally under-trained patsies. It would be extremely difficult indeed for an airline pilot to maneuver a giant 757, 20 feet off the ground, following the avenues of Washington D.C. without winging any obstacles, and accomplish the amazing feat of coming in horizontally through the first floor of the Pentagon. Yet, we must readily believe that this was done by a Muslim zealot who trained mostly on piper cubs and computer simulators. </p>
<p>Even more incredulous is the non-existent remains of the crash in Pennsylvania where everything was vaporized by the tremendous impact and hellish heat, except, miraculously, the hijackers&#8217; suitcases containing, for some inexplicable purpose, instructions and prayers on paper.The very evidence that was needed to implicate Arab terrorists. Some paper this paper with higher combustion point than metal, including titanium!&#8221;</p>
<p>Since you insist for a next question, then I will pose one to you smarty pants.  If whatever crashed into the pentagon was not a commercial airliner, then how was the real flight and its passengers disappeared in this conspiracy?</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Aucoin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Aucoin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 21:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What will time reveal about 9-11?

That&#039;s the wrong question. The right question is: what has science already revealed about 9-11?

Physics professor Steven Jones has shown that all three WTC towers were control demolished. But if Newton&#039;s Laws are over your head, then just look at the several videos of WTC7&#039;s alleged &quot;collapse.&quot;
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc7.html

It turns out that &quot;WMD&quot; was a small lie; 9-11 was the big lie. The War on Terror is a fraud, purposefully designed to replace the War Party&#039;s former cash cow, the Cold War.

Next question...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What will time reveal about 9-11?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the wrong question. The right question is: what has science already revealed about 9-11?</p>
<p>Physics professor Steven Jones has shown that all three WTC towers were control demolished. But if Newton&#8217;s Laws are over your head, then just look at the several videos of WTC7&#8217;s alleged &#8220;collapse.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc7.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc7.html</a></p>
<p>It turns out that &#8220;WMD&#8221; was a small lie; 9-11 was the big lie. The War on Terror is a fraud, purposefully designed to replace the War Party&#8217;s former cash cow, the Cold War.</p>
<p>Next question&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bolivarian Socialist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bolivarian Socialist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello all: I agree with George Washington there.  And Simon Bolivar the liberator of Venezuela said the same thing.  Damend the soldier who uses his weapons against the people</description>
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