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		<title>By: Bill K.</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/01/27/media-bias-101/comment-page-1/#comment-117678</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Yeltsin was wiping out his opponents with Tanks I remember the media was attacking THEM!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Yeltsin was wiping out his opponents with Tanks I remember the media was attacking THEM!</p>
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		<title>By: ingrida</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/01/27/media-bias-101/comment-page-1/#comment-113598</link>
		<dc:creator>ingrida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for those who may have missed it, here&#039;s an interesting connection between Bomb, Bomb, Bomb McCain, McCain&#039;s Campaign Manager Rick Davis, and Oleg:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/24/AR2008012403383/html?nav=hcmodule

More ineresting headlines on the way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for those who may have missed it, here&#8217;s an interesting connection between Bomb, Bomb, Bomb McCain, McCain&#8217;s Campaign Manager Rick Davis, and Oleg:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/24/AR2008012403383/html?nav=hcmodule" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/24/AR2008012403383/html?nav=hcmodule</a></p>
<p>More ineresting headlines on the way?</p>
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		<title>By: ingrida</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/01/27/media-bias-101/comment-page-1/#comment-113593</link>
		<dc:creator>ingrida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To those who would like to see a difference between Yeltsin&#039;s Russia and Putin&#039;s.  The big difference is that the price of oil has increased.  The same old oligarchs are still in charge.  Check out the Aluminium King, the second richest man in Russia, multi-billionare Oleg Deripaska.  Married to Yeltsin&#039;s ex-chief-of-staff&#039;s daughter, and his (Oleg&#039;s) father-in-law is married to Yeltsin&#039;s daughter. (I think you need a schematic to figure this out.)
http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/moscow/deripaska.htm/

The more things change in Russia, the more they stay the same, a misplaced headline nothwithstanding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To those who would like to see a difference between Yeltsin&#8217;s Russia and Putin&#8217;s.  The big difference is that the price of oil has increased.  The same old oligarchs are still in charge.  Check out the Aluminium King, the second richest man in Russia, multi-billionare Oleg Deripaska.  Married to Yeltsin&#8217;s ex-chief-of-staff&#8217;s daughter, and his (Oleg&#8217;s) father-in-law is married to Yeltsin&#8217;s daughter. (I think you need a schematic to figure this out.)<br />
<a href="http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/moscow/deripaska.htm/" rel="nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/moscow/deripaska.htm/</a></p>
<p>The more things change in Russia, the more they stay the same, a misplaced headline nothwithstanding.</p>
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		<title>By: Weston</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/01/27/media-bias-101/comment-page-1/#comment-113317</link>
		<dc:creator>Weston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 07:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lazar (Hrebeljanovic), I criticized your question for oversimplifying the matter, but I didn&#039;t avoid answering it.  I think if you&#039;ll reread my post, you&#039;ll find that I&#039;m saying the answer to your question is mixed: Russia is doing better economically, but not in terms of political freedom.  If you want a simpler answer than that, you&#039;re not going to get it from me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lazar (Hrebeljanovic), I criticized your question for oversimplifying the matter, but I didn&#8217;t avoid answering it.  I think if you&#8217;ll reread my post, you&#8217;ll find that I&#8217;m saying the answer to your question is mixed: Russia is doing better economically, but not in terms of political freedom.  If you want a simpler answer than that, you&#8217;re not going to get it from me.</p>
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		<title>By: Hrebeljanovic</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/01/27/media-bias-101/comment-page-1/#comment-113305</link>
		<dc:creator>Hrebeljanovic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa Weston, slow down, here, I have more Q&#039;s for you: Who is to decide what &quot;media bias&quot; is? You? Could you name one Free Major Media Outlet in the U.S.? You&#039;ve avoided to answer my question by attempting to criticize it. Creating little traps, making false assumptions and conclusions is passe. Thank you though for proving me right: You are the latest source to bring more &quot;backsliding&quot; news from Russia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa Weston, slow down, here, I have more Q&#8217;s for you: Who is to decide what &#8220;media bias&#8221; is? You? Could you name one Free Major Media Outlet in the U.S.? You&#8217;ve avoided to answer my question by attempting to criticize it. Creating little traps, making false assumptions and conclusions is passe. Thank you though for proving me right: You are the latest source to bring more &#8220;backsliding&#8221; news from Russia.</p>
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		<title>By: justaguy</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/01/27/media-bias-101/comment-page-1/#comment-113296</link>
		<dc:creator>justaguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, how many articles regarding the politics of Russia even mention the form of these so called Kremlin critics?

In the mainstream press it would be exactly none. Thus the narrative/s are all biased toward denigrating Putin, whereas the biggest antidemocratic criminals are those toward which the Kremlin and proPutin forces are engaged against. 

We are still being fed the line that Yeltsin was a democrat who fought the evil authoritarian cabal. The truth is close the the direct opposite and Yeltsin&#039;s cronies stole the whole shop.

How often do you read of the Israeli zionist connections of these grand criminals in your &#039;diverse&#039; press?

The omissions define the narrative/s in this case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, how many articles regarding the politics of Russia even mention the form of these so called Kremlin critics?</p>
<p>In the mainstream press it would be exactly none. Thus the narrative/s are all biased toward denigrating Putin, whereas the biggest antidemocratic criminals are those toward which the Kremlin and proPutin forces are engaged against. </p>
<p>We are still being fed the line that Yeltsin was a democrat who fought the evil authoritarian cabal. The truth is close the the direct opposite and Yeltsin&#8217;s cronies stole the whole shop.</p>
<p>How often do you read of the Israeli zionist connections of these grand criminals in your &#8216;diverse&#8217; press?</p>
<p>The omissions define the narrative/s in this case.</p>
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		<title>By: Vassili</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/01/27/media-bias-101/comment-page-1/#comment-113179</link>
		<dc:creator>Vassili</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 02:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with this headline - each and every registered candidate for presidency, except for Putin&#039;s (and THUS people&#039;s that trust Putin, which constitute the majority of people that have the right to vote) - so, each and every of the registered candidates can be described as “Kremlin critic&quot;.

So, of 4 registered candidates - ONE can not be labeled as &quot;Kremlin critic&quot;. Did CNN mention that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with this headline &#8211; each and every registered candidate for presidency, except for Putin&#8217;s (and THUS people&#8217;s that trust Putin, which constitute the majority of people that have the right to vote) &#8211; so, each and every of the registered candidates can be described as “Kremlin critic&#8221;.</p>
<p>So, of 4 registered candidates &#8211; ONE can not be labeled as &#8220;Kremlin critic&#8221;. Did CNN mention that?</p>
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		<title>By: Vassili</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/01/27/media-bias-101/comment-page-1/#comment-113167</link>
		<dc:creator>Vassili</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 02:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have spent 12 years of my life in the US - from 1992 to 2004. Then I moved to Russia, since I certainly felt that &quot;high price of increased authoritarianism&quot; in the US is not justified by anything.

After Iraq (and Europe/Yogoslavia) aggressions my choice for a place of living was simple - one can be safe only in the US or Russia, with the exception of terrorism, although the willingness of the US govt. to arrange events like 9/11 - and most amazing willingness of american public to accept measures taking their freedoms away... the choice was easy. 

Speaking of my personal freedoms, and my ability to express personal opinions I have not seen any &quot;backsliding”. Government addresses the concerns of the population to a much bigger degree then in the US. The only &quot;backsliding&quot; I see is adoption of some freedom-limiting practices borrowed from the US - like the notorious prohibition to carry liquids on the airplane flight. That is a shame of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have spent 12 years of my life in the US &#8211; from 1992 to 2004. Then I moved to Russia, since I certainly felt that &#8220;high price of increased authoritarianism&#8221; in the US is not justified by anything.</p>
<p>After Iraq (and Europe/Yogoslavia) aggressions my choice for a place of living was simple &#8211; one can be safe only in the US or Russia, with the exception of terrorism, although the willingness of the US govt. to arrange events like 9/11 &#8211; and most amazing willingness of american public to accept measures taking their freedoms away&#8230; the choice was easy. </p>
<p>Speaking of my personal freedoms, and my ability to express personal opinions I have not seen any &#8220;backsliding”. Government addresses the concerns of the population to a much bigger degree then in the US. The only &#8220;backsliding&#8221; I see is adoption of some freedom-limiting practices borrowed from the US &#8211; like the notorious prohibition to carry liquids on the airplane flight. That is a shame of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Weston</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/01/27/media-bias-101/comment-page-1/#comment-113121</link>
		<dc:creator>Weston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 00:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justaguy, here&#039;s the general schema: if you believe in x, then you&#039;re not thinking outside the box that x has put you in. 

Your argument presupposes what I deny, namely, that there &lt;i&gt;is &lt;/i&gt; a single narrative for me to fall victim to. That&#039;s called begging the question. 

I want evidence, not accusations. A poorly written headline, if it counts at all, counts to a vanishingly small extent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justaguy, here&#8217;s the general schema: if you believe in x, then you&#8217;re not thinking outside the box that x has put you in. </p>
<p>Your argument presupposes what I deny, namely, that there <i>is </i> a single narrative for me to fall victim to. That&#8217;s called begging the question. </p>
<p>I want evidence, not accusations. A poorly written headline, if it counts at all, counts to a vanishingly small extent.</p>
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		<title>By: justaguy</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/01/27/media-bias-101/comment-page-1/#comment-113095</link>
		<dc:creator>justaguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 23:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, well, when this &#039;backsliding&#039; starts effecting Russians other than those with connections to the so called &quot;oligarchs&quot; (thieves on a massive scale) and their Israeli backers and Harvard School advisors, I&#039;ll start to worry about it.

Weston, if you think that the press doesn&#039;t favour one particular view i.e. that of Wall St style capitalism and militarism, you&#039;re not thinking outside the narrative/s they have you in.

Much of the propaganda war is disinformation by omission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, well, when this &#8216;backsliding&#8217; starts effecting Russians other than those with connections to the so called &#8220;oligarchs&#8221; (thieves on a massive scale) and their Israeli backers and Harvard School advisors, I&#8217;ll start to worry about it.</p>
<p>Weston, if you think that the press doesn&#8217;t favour one particular view i.e. that of Wall St style capitalism and militarism, you&#8217;re not thinking outside the narrative/s they have you in.</p>
<p>Much of the propaganda war is disinformation by omission.</p>
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		<title>By: Weston</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/01/27/media-bias-101/comment-page-1/#comment-113067</link>
		<dc:creator>Weston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lazar, every source has an interest. The question is how far that interest dictates content. As I have indicated, I believe media bias exists, but unlike many people in this forum, I do not think this bias univocally favors any one particular view. Which is (approximately) just as it should be: given the inevitability of bias, a diverse body of independent presses is crucial to a free society.  That is one of the main reasons to worry about Russia: non-state media outlets are marginalized, if not actively stifled.

I think that Putin has brought some much-needed stability and economic growth to Russia, but at the very high price of increased authoritarianism.  Your question misleadingly suggests that whether Russia is better off overall is a simple matter of comparing one regime to another.  Economic growth is good in the short term, but sacrificing civil liberties for it has some very serious long-term consequences.  Average Russians are probably better off now than they were during the chaotic 90&#039;s.  But if the present trend continues--and there is not much reason to think it won&#039;t--then a lot of Russians in subsequent generations are going to suffer for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lazar, every source has an interest. The question is how far that interest dictates content. As I have indicated, I believe media bias exists, but unlike many people in this forum, I do not think this bias univocally favors any one particular view. Which is (approximately) just as it should be: given the inevitability of bias, a diverse body of independent presses is crucial to a free society.  That is one of the main reasons to worry about Russia: non-state media outlets are marginalized, if not actively stifled.</p>
<p>I think that Putin has brought some much-needed stability and economic growth to Russia, but at the very high price of increased authoritarianism.  Your question misleadingly suggests that whether Russia is better off overall is a simple matter of comparing one regime to another.  Economic growth is good in the short term, but sacrificing civil liberties for it has some very serious long-term consequences.  Average Russians are probably better off now than they were during the chaotic 90&#8217;s.  But if the present trend continues&#8211;and there is not much reason to think it won&#8217;t&#8211;then a lot of Russians in subsequent generations are going to suffer for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Hrebeljanovic</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/01/27/media-bias-101/comment-page-1/#comment-112505</link>
		<dc:creator>Hrebeljanovic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 02:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Weston,

Most of the sources that you provided links for have an interest(or they simply toe the government line) in portraying Russia as &quot;backsliding&quot;. Allow me to ask you a simple Q: When you compare Jelcin&#039;s Russia to Putin&#039;s Russia, what do you think which one is better? Me thinks you missed Justin&#039;s point because there are many reasons why we are being fed bad news about Russia lately. It would take too much time and space to name them all. Expect more &quot;backsliding&quot; news to come. 

Cheers, Lazar</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Weston,</p>
<p>Most of the sources that you provided links for have an interest(or they simply toe the government line) in portraying Russia as &#8220;backsliding&#8221;. Allow me to ask you a simple Q: When you compare Jelcin&#8217;s Russia to Putin&#8217;s Russia, what do you think which one is better? Me thinks you missed Justin&#8217;s point because there are many reasons why we are being fed bad news about Russia lately. It would take too much time and space to name them all. Expect more &#8220;backsliding&#8221; news to come. </p>
<p>Cheers, Lazar</p>
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