Comments on: Republicans in the Military Support the Antiwar Candidate http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02/01/republicans-in-the-military-support-the-antiwar-candidate/ Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:08:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: sam http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02/01/republicans-in-the-military-support-the-antiwar-candidate/#comment-121543 sam Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:55:39 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02/01/republicans-in-the-military-support-the-antiwar-candidate/#comment-121543 um. It's safe to say that you are a JACKASS if you vote for Ron Paul based on the fact that hes against the war and that he wants us out of IRAQ. um. It’s safe to say that you are a JACKASS if you vote for Ron Paul based on the fact that hes against the war and that he wants us out of IRAQ.

]]> By: Sara http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02/01/republicans-in-the-military-support-the-antiwar-candidate/#comment-117517 Sara Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:53:11 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02/01/republicans-in-the-military-support-the-antiwar-candidate/#comment-117517 I think the 70& are told over and over that a Paul has no electability. You must vote for the chosen 4, if you vote for a Paul you will split the vote and usher in the wrong party. There were only 2 democrat candidates focused on from the very beginning. Clinton and Obama was shoved down our throats. I think the 70& are told over and over that a Paul has no electability. You must vote for the chosen 4, if you vote for a Paul you will split the vote and usher in the wrong party. There were only 2 democrat candidates focused on from the very beginning. Clinton and Obama was shoved down our throats.

]]> By: McAbel http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02/01/republicans-in-the-military-support-the-antiwar-candidate/#comment-116989 McAbel Mon, 04 Feb 2008 03:26:34 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02/01/republicans-in-the-military-support-the-antiwar-candidate/#comment-116989 As Justin pointed out in "The Madness of John McCain", when McCain was first in Congress, just out of the service and not too many years out of POW camp, he was as anti-imperialist as current GI's are. But now he's older, wiser, more realistic; he understands that war is money and money is what gets you elected. The wonder is how Ron Paul managed to get elected 10 times. Charlie Wilson was elected 11 times to represent a district that adjoins both of Paul's districts, apparently with defense industry financing in exchange for leaving his hot tub long enough to vote for every military appropriations bill that came along. That's the norm, but somehow Ron Paul stayed in Congress without riding that gravy train. I'd like to know what's unique about his part of Texas. As Justin pointed out in “The Madness of John McCain”, when McCain was first in Congress, just out of the service and not too many years out of POW camp, he was as anti-imperialist as current GI’s are. But now he’s older, wiser, more realistic; he understands that war is money and money is what gets you elected.

The wonder is how Ron Paul managed to get elected 10 times. Charlie Wilson was elected 11 times to represent a district that adjoins both of Paul’s districts, apparently with defense industry financing in exchange for leaving his hot tub long enough to vote for every military appropriations bill that came along. That’s the norm, but somehow Ron Paul stayed in Congress without riding that gravy train. I’d like to know what’s unique about his part of Texas.

]]> By: Eugene Costa http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02/01/republicans-in-the-military-support-the-antiwar-candidate/#comment-116918 Eugene Costa Sun, 03 Feb 2008 21:09:44 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02/01/republicans-in-the-military-support-the-antiwar-candidate/#comment-116918 I think very clear-headed analysis is needed on the whole subject of this seeming disconnect. No doubt some of it is psychological, but the psychological makes some a little less suspicious of the mechanical, which is outright vote fraud. The Neo-Cons are still aiming at an presidential electoral victory, if they can possibly pull it off. The popular vote is irrelevant to them, as long as it is a close enough contest so that a victory in the Electoral College is possible. Ohio will be harder to steal this year, but the strategy is the same. Too the bases are covered on both sides of the fence, just as they were covered with Gore-Lieberman versus Bush-Cheney. The key to Neo-Con manipulation is that it is not based on a static exoteric ideology, but is externally contingent. I think very clear-headed analysis is needed on the whole subject of this seeming disconnect. No doubt some of it is psychological, but the psychological makes some a little less suspicious of the mechanical, which is outright vote fraud.

The Neo-Cons are still aiming at an presidential electoral victory, if they can possibly pull it off.

The popular vote is irrelevant to them, as long as it is a close enough contest so that a victory in the Electoral College is possible.

Ohio will be harder to steal this year, but the strategy is the same.

Too the bases are covered on both sides of the fence, just as they were covered with Gore-Lieberman versus Bush-Cheney.

The key to Neo-Con manipulation is that it is not based on a static exoteric ideology, but is externally contingent.

]]> By: Eugene Costa http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02/01/republicans-in-the-military-support-the-antiwar-candidate/#comment-116913 Eugene Costa Sun, 03 Feb 2008 21:02:15 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02/01/republicans-in-the-military-support-the-antiwar-candidate/#comment-116913 There is some clear suggestion that military votes were also miscounted in the the last two presidential elections. Certainly, there was in place a systematic bias toward engineering military votes for Bush. There is some clear suggestion that military votes were also miscounted in the the last two presidential elections. Certainly, there was in place a systematic bias toward engineering military votes for Bush.

]]> By: Molly http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02/01/republicans-in-the-military-support-the-antiwar-candidate/#comment-116870 Molly Sun, 03 Feb 2008 18:19:59 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02/01/republicans-in-the-military-support-the-antiwar-candidate/#comment-116870 This disconnect is extremely frustrating to me as well. If 70% of Americans want an end to the war in Iraq, why aren't 70% of Americans voting for an end to it? The answer to me seems to be that the American people have lost their streak of independence that made us reputed as the bearers of democracy throughout the world until the most recent administration. They're scared. And after decades of welfare and warfare, what do the American people do when they're scared? They cling desperately onto the status quo in the hopes that nothing out of the mainstream will occur to shake up their comfortable lives. Only our lives aren't as comfortable as they once were. I'm afraid that the future of the economy will make Americans look back at Ron Paul six months after the election and think that hey, maybe he did know what he was talking about. And maybe he was right when he pointed out (as more and more critics and experts are these days) that American policy towards terrorism (including the war) has made us less safe. I fear what will happen to our nation under a Clinton or McCain presidency, and only less so under an Obama one. Ron Paul is what the American people want and need, but the media does all it can to make sure they don't realize it. This disconnect is extremely frustrating to me as well. If 70% of Americans want an end to the war in Iraq, why aren’t 70% of Americans voting for an end to it? The answer to me seems to be that the American people have lost their streak of independence that made us reputed as the bearers of democracy throughout the world until the most recent administration. They’re scared. And after decades of welfare and warfare, what do the American people do when they’re scared? They cling desperately onto the status quo in the hopes that nothing out of the mainstream will occur to shake up their comfortable lives. Only our lives aren’t as comfortable as they once were. I’m afraid that the future of the economy will make Americans look back at Ron Paul six months after the election and think that hey, maybe he did know what he was talking about. And maybe he was right when he pointed out (as more and more critics and experts are these days) that American policy towards terrorism (including the war) has made us less safe. I fear what will happen to our nation under a Clinton or McCain presidency, and only less so under an Obama one. Ron Paul is what the American people want and need, but the media does all it can to make sure they don’t realize it.

]]> By: lizard http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02/01/republicans-in-the-military-support-the-antiwar-candidate/#comment-116828 lizard Sun, 03 Feb 2008 14:04:27 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02/01/republicans-in-the-military-support-the-antiwar-candidate/#comment-116828 The troops want Ron Paul, the public doesn't care for him. Would support the troops not include helping them get what they want? Support the troops my foot! The troops want Ron Paul, the public doesn’t care for him. Would support the troops not include helping them get what they want? Support the troops my foot!

]]> By: Dan-O http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02/01/republicans-in-the-military-support-the-antiwar-candidate/#comment-116678 Dan-O Sun, 03 Feb 2008 02:11:20 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02/01/republicans-in-the-military-support-the-antiwar-candidate/#comment-116678 Amen, Mr. Costa, Until the electronic voting machines are left out of the equation and a sound, tamper-proof way of validating the voting process is put into place, the present charade we call our elections will go on - and all of our anxiety and wringing of hands will be for naught. We must get rid of these damn machines now! I wish every American would watch "Hacking Democracy" from HBO, available for free viewing on Youtube. It just might get our friends and neighbors to open their eyes to the fact that NO - YOUR VOTE DOESN'T MATTER. Beverly Harris, the woman who almost single-handedly exposed this fraud, now there's a true American patriot my friends. Amen, Mr. Costa,

Until the electronic voting machines are left out of the equation and a sound, tamper-proof way of validating the voting process is put into place, the present charade we call our elections will go on - and all of our anxiety and wringing of hands will be for naught. We must get rid of these damn machines now!

I wish every American would watch “Hacking Democracy” from HBO, available for free viewing on Youtube. It just might get our friends and neighbors to open their eyes to the fact that NO - YOUR VOTE DOESN’T MATTER. Beverly Harris, the woman who almost single-handedly exposed this fraud, now there’s a true American patriot my friends.

]]> By: Eugene Costa http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02/01/republicans-in-the-military-support-the-antiwar-candidate/#comment-116536 Eugene Costa Sat, 02 Feb 2008 21:09:52 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02/01/republicans-in-the-military-support-the-antiwar-candidate/#comment-116536 The disconnect is at least partly miscounted votes. The Republicans stole Ohio against Gore--that was where the real vote fraud was, without which Florida was irrelevant. That is why Kucinich asked for a recount in NH. Reforming fraudulent machine counting is a key part of his analysis. The disconnect is at least partly miscounted votes.

The Republicans stole Ohio against Gore–that was where the real vote fraud was, without which Florida was irrelevant.

That is why Kucinich asked for a recount in NH.

Reforming fraudulent machine counting is a key part of his analysis.

]]> By: John http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02/01/republicans-in-the-military-support-the-antiwar-candidate/#comment-116517 John Sat, 02 Feb 2008 20:49:25 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02/01/republicans-in-the-military-support-the-antiwar-candidate/#comment-116517 There is a disconnect between what it is that the people say they want--change--and the fact that they vote in large numbers for Washington insiders and career politicians like McCain and Hillary. In this regard I believe that people are freightened about this terrosim nonsense ,and so dependent on government that change is the last thing they want. Most people think the only reason thet the government exists is to give them something--free medical care, free prescriptions drugs, free day care, a free college education,mortgage and credit card bail outs, and all the other goodies the Welfare state and most of the candidates promise. Ron Paul will fight against the Welfae-Warfare state that has an agressive foreign policy abroad and restricted liberties at home.Unfortunately, most people will choose security over liberty.In other words, people love big, intrusive, aggresssive government. There is a disconnect between what it is that the people say they want–change–and the fact that they vote in large numbers for Washington insiders and career politicians like McCain and Hillary. In this regard I believe that people are freightened about this terrosim nonsense ,and so dependent on government that change is the last thing they want.

Most people think the only reason thet the government exists is to give them something–free medical care, free prescriptions drugs, free day care, a free college education,mortgage and credit card bail outs, and all the other goodies the Welfare state and most of the candidates promise.

Ron Paul will fight against the Welfae-Warfare state that has an agressive foreign policy abroad and restricted liberties at home.Unfortunately, most people will choose security over liberty.In other words, people love big, intrusive, aggresssive government.

]]> By: Job http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02/01/republicans-in-the-military-support-the-antiwar-candidate/#comment-116494 Job Sat, 02 Feb 2008 20:25:24 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02/01/republicans-in-the-military-support-the-antiwar-candidate/#comment-116494 Hello All The first casualties of war are truth and freedom. As Long as we are at war we will have neither the funds or the freedom to pay for health care, infrastructure, education or any thing else. It's not "the economy stupid". It's the war! It's killing our soldiers our economy and our constitution. You must get on line and go everywhere you can and tell everyone you can that the only way to end this war is to get Ron Paul elected as president. He is the only one who will get the troops home without delay. Others say they will end the war but not for a long time. Obama has even talked about going into Pakistan. And Hillary has sided with the Bush Administration in declaring the Iranian Republican Guard a terrorist organization. That is like some one else calling our National Guard a terrorist organization. Bush Has said he will go after terrorist and the countries that harbor them that means that he is going after Iran and Hillary would do the same thing. Ron Paul may be hard to swallow for some democrats but he is our only hope of ending this war. None of the other candidates not Obama not Clinton not Huckabee not McCain and not Romney will end this war. There is a reason that Ron Paul has more support from military personnel than any other candidate and that is because they will receive the first benefits of peace (not getting shot at and blown up) It's Ron Paul or it is National ID cards, suspension of the Bill of Rights and mass detention facilities Job Hello All
The first casualties of war are truth and freedom. As Long as we are at war we will have neither the funds or the freedom to pay for health care, infrastructure, education or any thing else. It’s not “the economy stupid”. It’s the war! It’s killing our soldiers our economy and our constitution. You must get on line and go everywhere you can and tell everyone you can that the only way to end this war is to get Ron Paul elected as president. He is the only one who will get the troops home without delay. Others say they will end the war but not for a long time. Obama has even talked about going into Pakistan. And Hillary has sided with the Bush Administration in declaring the Iranian Republican Guard a terrorist organization. That is like some one else calling our National Guard a terrorist organization. Bush Has said he will go after terrorist and the countries that harbor them that means that he is going after Iran and Hillary would do the same thing. Ron Paul may be hard to swallow for some democrats but he is our only hope of ending this war. None of the other candidates not Obama not Clinton not Huckabee not McCain and not Romney will end this war. There is a reason that Ron Paul has more support from military personnel than any other candidate and that is because they will receive the first benefits of peace (not getting shot at and blown up) It’s Ron Paul or it is National ID cards, suspension of the Bill of Rights and mass detention facilities

Job

]]> By: peace http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02/01/republicans-in-the-military-support-the-antiwar-candidate/#comment-115940 peace Sat, 02 Feb 2008 09:24:40 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02/01/republicans-in-the-military-support-the-antiwar-candidate/#comment-115940 The power of the people should not be forgotten, is the only slogan that makes sense against the hidden government. Our masters do not want to televise the Ron Paul Revolution, or let it happen. The power of the people should not be forgotten, is the only slogan that makes sense against the hidden government. Our masters do not want to televise the Ron Paul Revolution, or let it happen.

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