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		<title>By: Taiwanrox8</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taiwanrox8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 02:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whats wrong with capitalism and democracy?  Whats wrong with freedom?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whats wrong with capitalism and democracy?  Whats wrong with freedom?</p>
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		<title>By: Jefferey Lewis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jefferey Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 22:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anybody else thinks that this Eugene Costas needs to STFU?

God, he sounds like one of these people who love to support the croney capitalists in Taiwan just because he hates the Chinese.  

This guy has got to be some kind of internet troll.  I think the bit about Taiwan &quot;buying up all of China lock stock and barrel&quot; tipped me off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody else thinks that this Eugene Costas needs to STFU?</p>
<p>God, he sounds like one of these people who love to support the croney capitalists in Taiwan just because he hates the Chinese.  </p>
<p>This guy has got to be some kind of internet troll.  I think the bit about Taiwan &#8220;buying up all of China lock stock and barrel&#8221; tipped me off.</p>
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		<title>By: 5 Reasons Why the PRC will not Invade Taiwan shortly after the Olympics &#187; Doctor Recommended</title>
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		<dc:creator>5 Reasons Why the PRC will not Invade Taiwan shortly after the Olympics &#187; Doctor Recommended</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I have mentioned elsewhere that the PRC does not appear to have the military capability to defeat Taiwan or the US in a conventional warfare (primarily because of the analysis by professor Geoffrey Forden: 1 2 3). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I have mentioned elsewhere that the PRC does not appear to have the military capability to defeat Taiwan or the US in a conventional warfare (primarily because of the analysis by professor Geoffrey Forden: 1 2 3). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Yubi Yamada</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yubi Yamada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, kosovo&#039;s population is ethnic albanian for the most part, over 90 percent. taiwan&#039;s population is 99 percent ethnic han chinese. serbia is a multiethnic country (serbs,croats,hungarians,slovaks,...),on the other hand, the island of taiwan isn&#039;t really multiethnic although they do have their aborigines, but they&#039;re definitely a minority. serbia was under the soviet union rule, serbian citizens were not russian, and all those ethnicities were forced to live in the same territory,and later on had to deal with their cultural issues, so there&#039;s a reason for independence. taiwan (before the japanese invasion) was under the same government as the mainland, japanese were only there for fifty years, that&#039;s nothing compared to thousands of years. taiwanese share the same culture with mainlanders, even though taiwan has some more western influence,but china has it too. kosovo&#039;s situation cannot be compared to taiwan&#039;s. i think chinese people in general weren&#039;t really &quot;happy&quot; with japanese invasion and they certainly don&#039;t feel any nostalgic feeling towards those years of japanese invasion. china is a permanent member of the security council in the UN, so that request (by taiwan) to join the UN is so out of the question, anyways they have tried it before and it was rejected countless times. i&#039;m totally pro kosovo&#039;s joining the UN and it&#039;s going to happen let&#039;s hope sooner rather than later. :) yubi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, kosovo&#8217;s population is ethnic albanian for the most part, over 90 percent. taiwan&#8217;s population is 99 percent ethnic han chinese. serbia is a multiethnic country (serbs,croats,hungarians,slovaks,&#8230;),on the other hand, the island of taiwan isn&#8217;t really multiethnic although they do have their aborigines, but they&#8217;re definitely a minority. serbia was under the soviet union rule, serbian citizens were not russian, and all those ethnicities were forced to live in the same territory,and later on had to deal with their cultural issues, so there&#8217;s a reason for independence. taiwan (before the japanese invasion) was under the same government as the mainland, japanese were only there for fifty years, that&#8217;s nothing compared to thousands of years. taiwanese share the same culture with mainlanders, even though taiwan has some more western influence,but china has it too. kosovo&#8217;s situation cannot be compared to taiwan&#8217;s. i think chinese people in general weren&#8217;t really &#8220;happy&#8221; with japanese invasion and they certainly don&#8217;t feel any nostalgic feeling towards those years of japanese invasion. china is a permanent member of the security council in the UN, so that request (by taiwan) to join the UN is so out of the question, anyways they have tried it before and it was rejected countless times. i&#8217;m totally pro kosovo&#8217;s joining the UN and it&#8217;s going to happen let&#8217;s hope sooner rather than later. :) yubi</p>
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		<title>By: Tap water still tastes bad &#187; Doctor Recommended</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tap water still tastes bad &#187; Doctor Recommended</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 10:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - Here are some other observations I&#8217;ve written elsewhere: 1 2        &#171; Jack Black&#8217;s Brother from another Mother &#160; Survival of the ugly gene &#187; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8211; Here are some other observations I&#8217;ve written elsewhere: 1 2        &laquo; Jack Black&#8217;s Brother from another Mother &nbsp; Survival of the ugly gene &raquo; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: This post is up for deletion &#187; Doctor Recommended</title>
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		<dc:creator>This post is up for deletion &#187; Doctor Recommended</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This typical involves something drastic, like deleting the entire entry for Taiwan (because you know, it doesn&#8217;t technically exist). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This typical involves something drastic, like deleting the entire entry for Taiwan (because you know, it doesn&#8217;t technically exist). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 09:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes they do appear monolithic , but some books did describe Chou as being quite urbane, in his foreign minister role, and when one looks at photoes of Deng as a young man during his period in France there is a human  mischevious look about him.. Perhaps living in a society where everybody is expected to conform, does something to the human spirit.

when you see photoes of the soviets looking down from the Kremlin during National day parade, I thought it was the weather that made them look glum, though Krueschev seem to some character its the face, i can see laugh lines</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes they do appear monolithic , but some books did describe Chou as being quite urbane, in his foreign minister role, and when one looks at photoes of Deng as a young man during his period in France there is a human  mischevious look about him.. Perhaps living in a society where everybody is expected to conform, does something to the human spirit.</p>
<p>when you see photoes of the soviets looking down from the Kremlin during National day parade, I thought it was the weather that made them look glum, though Krueschev seem to some character its the face, i can see laugh lines</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 09:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmmmm  Well if u r prepared to put up with more disjointed thoughts
 Firstly,have you read my response to you about what i got out of the &#039;mid town article&#039;?

Well, the tutors remarks on my critique on some modernist/ postmodernist  philospher whose name I have long forgotten  was someting along the lines of &quot; needing to write effectively ,succinctly and in analysing and presenting well formed and balanced arguments.
(A hard task for a english as a second language student) and because I dont know when this blog will be closed off, Im making a n immediate response without taking time off to think about it.


I think its an area where the KMT need to exercise a little patience, be a little flexible, and try to leave it open for consideration at some designated time,........ eg abit like the HK arrangement I guess.....HOwever i would like to see this happen,

 the Government of the PRC have to use this time  to win back the trust and respect of the people and become a credible party worth voting for. They could possibly achieve this by  permitting genuine criticism and freedom of the press   something along the lines of Mao&#039;s let a hundred flowers bloom campaign, although I think his was done for diferrent reasons. By doing this and if the government can stand the heat.a great deal of the rorts and corruption could possibly be stopped and there would not be any need for these selected stage managed corruption trials.
  But this  itself would present problems because I have no doubt there would be an infinite amount of embarrassing criticism, so much so that China&#039;s critics would take great delight in highlighting. This could lead to conservative elements  putting the kybosh on these changes
Other problems include the fact that China currently lacks the leaders who have enough Mana/pull to effect such changes and a cant see any in the horizon. Its Leaders still have the soviet type imagery.... its a bit hard to explain  but theres no Deng or Chou En Lai, people, who have actually lived in the West,got their hands dirty while earning a living (didnt deng work in a French automobile factory as a young lad/) and observe first hand , freedom of the press and democracy 
functioning. I also think the PRC, let a greater cross section of skilled power, occupy positions of genuine authority.By this I mean lawyers, people educated in the social sciences, develop a different mindset on how to handle problems.
I think unless they can somehow effect such changes while agreeing to give up party monopoly, they will go the way of the dodo.
While I have no great affection for Chinas rulers, I am quite proud of some of their achievements, and would in some ways, be sorry to the way they ram things through, for good or worse disappear,only to be replaced by this political infighting as part of the decision making process</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmmmm  Well if u r prepared to put up with more disjointed thoughts<br />
 Firstly,have you read my response to you about what i got out of the &#8216;mid town article&#8217;?</p>
<p>Well, the tutors remarks on my critique on some modernist/ postmodernist  philospher whose name I have long forgotten  was someting along the lines of &#8221; needing to write effectively ,succinctly and in analysing and presenting well formed and balanced arguments.<br />
(A hard task for a english as a second language student) and because I dont know when this blog will be closed off, Im making a n immediate response without taking time off to think about it.</p>
<p>I think its an area where the KMT need to exercise a little patience, be a little flexible, and try to leave it open for consideration at some designated time,&#8230;&#8230;.. eg abit like the HK arrangement I guess&#8230;..HOwever i would like to see this happen,</p>
<p> the Government of the PRC have to use this time  to win back the trust and respect of the people and become a credible party worth voting for. They could possibly achieve this by  permitting genuine criticism and freedom of the press   something along the lines of Mao&#8217;s let a hundred flowers bloom campaign, although I think his was done for diferrent reasons. By doing this and if the government can stand the heat.a great deal of the rorts and corruption could possibly be stopped and there would not be any need for these selected stage managed corruption trials.<br />
  But this  itself would present problems because I have no doubt there would be an infinite amount of embarrassing criticism, so much so that China&#8217;s critics would take great delight in highlighting. This could lead to conservative elements  putting the kybosh on these changes<br />
Other problems include the fact that China currently lacks the leaders who have enough Mana/pull to effect such changes and a cant see any in the horizon. Its Leaders still have the soviet type imagery&#8230;. its a bit hard to explain  but theres no Deng or Chou En Lai, people, who have actually lived in the West,got their hands dirty while earning a living (didnt deng work in a French automobile factory as a young lad/) and observe first hand , freedom of the press and democracy<br />
functioning. I also think the PRC, let a greater cross section of skilled power, occupy positions of genuine authority.By this I mean lawyers, people educated in the social sciences, develop a different mindset on how to handle problems.<br />
I think unless they can somehow effect such changes while agreeing to give up party monopoly, they will go the way of the dodo.<br />
While I have no great affection for Chinas rulers, I am quite proud of some of their achievements, and would in some ways, be sorry to the way they ram things through, for good or worse disappear,only to be replaced by this political infighting as part of the decision making process</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Costa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eugene Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 02:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Modern &quot;Political Scientists&quot; are mostly a worthless lot.

The American variety, for example, mainly accept the status quo, and take such terms as &quot;representative democracy&quot; seriously.

Americans have not even settled the issue of what &quot;represent&quot; might mean, if anything. They just keep repeating the word, whatever the practice, as if it carries some meaning and significance on its own.

This &quot;representative&quot; votes for what his constituents want, that one against, but they both &quot;represent&quot;, and act &quot;democratically&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Modern &#8220;Political Scientists&#8221; are mostly a worthless lot.</p>
<p>The American variety, for example, mainly accept the status quo, and take such terms as &#8220;representative democracy&#8221; seriously.</p>
<p>Americans have not even settled the issue of what &#8220;represent&#8221; might mean, if anything. They just keep repeating the word, whatever the practice, as if it carries some meaning and significance on its own.</p>
<p>This &#8220;representative&#8221; votes for what his constituents want, that one against, but they both &#8220;represent&#8221;, and act &#8220;democratically&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Costa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eugene Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 01:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pardon the diplosis.</description>
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		<title>By: Eugene Costa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eugene Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 01:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is your opinion of the Nationalist requirement that the mainland Communists give up their party monopoly as one price of some sort of union?</description>
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		<title>By: Eugene Costa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eugene Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 01:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, &quot;nutter&quot; is mainly British usage, though it no doubt became popular in Australia as well, and has some recent currency in the United States.

An American would likely just say &quot;nut&quot;.

I think the mainland government mainland government lost two golden opportunities in regard to both Tiananmen and Falun Gong.

Brutal suppression in both cases sent messages exactly the opposite of what they intended.

It actually showed the regime&#039;s political weakness in my opinion.

What sort of weakness in detail is complex. Just the Party?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, &#8220;nutter&#8221; is mainly British usage, though it no doubt became popular in Australia as well, and has some recent currency in the United States.</p>
<p>An American would likely just say &#8220;nut&#8221;.</p>
<p>I think the mainland government mainland government lost two golden opportunities in regard to both Tiananmen and Falun Gong.</p>
<p>Brutal suppression in both cases sent messages exactly the opposite of what they intended.</p>
<p>It actually showed the regime&#8217;s political weakness in my opinion.</p>
<p>What sort of weakness in detail is complex. Just the Party?</p>
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