Ron Paul Rules Out 3rd Party Run, Scales Down Campaign

Ron Paul has announced that he is scaling down his campaign and, has absolutely ruled out a third-party Presidential run. He plans to focus on his reelection to Congress. He faces a March 4 primary challenge in his home district.

For the first time, Paul left no wiggle-room in addressing the third-party question:

Of course, I am committed to fighting for our ideas within the Republican party, so there will be no third party run. I do not denigrate third parties – just the opposite, and I have long worked to remove the ballot-access restrictions on them. But I am a Republican, and I will remain a Republican.

Thank you, Dr. Paul, for a great effort.




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Comment by Robert Fallin
2008-02-08 22:28:14

Remember “The Princess Bride”? Fred Savage was devastated when Peter Falk told him Cary Elwes was “nearly dead”. Just because Ron Paul says the chances of a brokered convention are “nearly zero” does not mean they are “zero.” Many of the Romney delegates are still committed to vote for Romney on THE FIRST BALLOT. Unless Huckabee withdraws (which is still a real possibility), John McCain may not have enough delegates for a first ballot victory.
If that happens, we may still see a brokered convention. While Ron Paul is scaling back his campaign staff, he has recently acquired three foreign policy advisers from antiwar.com. Besides, did you hear Ron Paul’s speech yesterday at CPAC? Did Ron Paul sound like he was giving up? I was ready to write this campaign off after Florida, but it gets more interesting by the day. Don’t count Ron Paul out. I still think what this campaign needs is write protected PowerPoint presentations of Ron Paul’s positions.

Comment by peace
2008-02-08 23:45:27

Thanks for this info. I need to find out what is CPAC, and hope there is a way to listen to the speech referred to above.

 
Comment by Hendrik Hesberg
2008-02-09 02:23:01

The speech can be found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWdtMftHTtQ

 
Comment by Bruce Bohrmann
2008-02-09 08:46:09

I was unable to get sound. Did nyone else have that problem?

 
 
Comment by A.J.
2008-02-09 00:01:51

Here is what the CPAC is…Conservatice Political Action Conference. Not to be confused with the AIPAC, lol.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Political_Action_Conference

 
Comment by Joe
2008-02-09 03:12:09

If the “surge” starts going south, McKook’s numbers will drop like a lead balloon. Even the religious evangalnuts won’t suck up to a big time war loser!

 
Comment by tsoldrin
2008-02-09 03:25:27

There’s many a swlip twixt the cup and the lip. It aint over ’till it’s over. McCain could keel over dead tomorrow. The man looks to be in bad health. Also, he may well be ineligable, not being a natural born citizen and all. Huckleberry is done sweeping up the crazy Christian votes, so who’s left?

 
Comment by John
2008-02-09 04:08:43

I feel the same about Ron Paul as I did when Pat Buchanan supported George Bush in 2004, they talk the talk, but do not walk the walk. Like the battered women who keep returning to the abusive husband in the hope that he will take them back and eventually love them, these Republicans keep returning to a party that rejects both them and their ideas. At least Pat Buchanan ran as a third party candidate twice, before returning.

If you really beleive in your own ideas you fight for them, even if it’s a third party fight. You always put country before party. Ron Paul turns out to be another Sound and Fury candidate. That’s unfortunate

Comment by Carter M
2008-02-09 06:49:25

Ron Paul stated early on that he wouldn’t run third-party. This is a man who doesn’t flip-flop. His consistency and HONESTY is why we consistently support him. Paraphrasing his statement in a recent email, this bid is just the opening shot in a new revolution. If he changed his mind now, he’d be just like the sons (and daughter) of whores now scrambling for the ultimate power trip.

 
Comment by John Lowell
2008-02-09 07:49:11

Amen!!

Comment by marty
2008-02-09 13:00:36

Draft Pat Buchanan for President 2008

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLlW309V_mw

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Comment by John Lowell
2008-02-09 16:36:38

What? Pat Buchanan - like Ron Paul apparently - is a Republican before all else, before principle, before thought, before truth. After kvetching for months, for years about the war, Buchanan actually endorsed Bush for President in 2004!! Buchanan teases by occasionally sounding acceptable, only later to befoul his nest with some act of craven party loyalty. Kindly withdraw this suggestion, marty, you’ll activate the gag reflex.

 
 
 
Comment by anon
2008-02-09 08:11:26

“If you really beleive in your own ideas you fight for them, even if it’s a third party fight. You always put country before party.”

I’m not a big Paul supporter—I agree with him completely on foreign policy, but on little else—but he’s right on this.

Why? No, I don’t love the stupid two-party system. The problem is that the situation stems from the idiotic “winner takes all” (aka “first past the post”) voting system we have.

If Paul wants to push a non-imperialist, non-interventionist stance in the Republican Party, more power to him. Likewise those of us (including me) who want to do the same within the Democratic Party.

 
Comment by Kyle
2008-02-09 09:55:02

Though I am not a Paul supporter I give him credit for staying in the party and trying to change it from within. Unfortunately on the whole third parties are irrelevant so he would be in a position to do nothing other than lose his seat in Congress if he ran third party.

Comment by John Lowell
2008-02-09 16:45:49

His having a seat in Congress does us little good. Who even knows he’s there. If Paul had had the personal honesty to stand as an independent this time I’d join the credulous with the starry-eyed silliness about his “character” that’s been spouted here so liberally over the last several months. If you’re looking for principle from a third party candidate look no further than Eugene Debbs. He ran from prison in 1920. Ron Paul doesn’t even come close to having that kind of character. He’s a waste of time.

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Comment by richard vajs
2008-02-09 05:05:22

The primary season so far has rewarded the goose-stepper candidates and the peddlers of smoke and dreams. All of the real folks (Kucinich, Dowd, Biden, and possibly now Paul) have apparently thrown up their hands at the stupidity of the electorate. They figured out that they can’t win and even if they could, who would listen to them in a painful period of corrections. We are left with another incompetant son of a sucessful father who wants desperately to “win” once in his life and a smooth street hustler who believes he can finesse his way out of any dead-end alley.

 
Comment by hamaser
2008-02-09 06:30:39

You can vote for McCain or Clinton or Obamma or Huckabee or not vote at all,it’s all the same and it is all shite.

 
Comment by paulite
2008-02-09 06:33:04

Ron Paul got shafted by the press running as the Republican he is. Can you imagine anyone knowing anything about him or his views had he run as an Independent?

He has gotten the message out. Mission accomplished.

 
Comment by John Muka
2008-02-09 06:41:37

Since McCain is now likely to be the next President the policies of our rulers can become much more blatantly obvious. And so will “buyers remorse” as people realize what they have been signing up for. This is a different kind of opportunity. Time for a “Switch to Ron Paul” approach. By September there may be a lot of people who are sick of McCain AND Hillary AND Obama. Because they are all selling the same product.

 
Comment by lester
2008-02-09 07:23:11

great strategy sitting on that war chest the whole time

Comment by John Lowell
2008-02-09 16:51:23

Yeah, he’s looking like a real phoney right about now, isn’t he. Sorry, I misspoke, he is a real phoney about now.

 
 
Comment by Len Karpinski
2008-02-09 07:31:26

I hope that all the registered Libertarian voters who switched in order to vote for Ron Paul will change back now that the inevitable has occurred.

 
Comment by the legendary bill
2008-02-09 07:45:00

The worst part is Paul was robbed in NH by that CIA corp Diebold ( as in go and die boldly for war profiteering, Israel and control of other’s oil )…We all now know that he rcvd twice as many votes in the precincts that were hand-counted so he actually came in at least third…A Ron Paul third place finish would have put him on the radar screen and couldn’t be tolerated..So much for “democracy”..Yeah, this is what “democracy” looks like in the real world which is why the oligarchs pretend to support it…

 
Comment by Rich Aucoin
2008-02-09 08:01:49

For what it’s worth, I took part in the NH GOP recount on Friday, 2/8.
I observed the counting of several towns. One of them was a Diebold scanner town and the others were the old-fashioned kind.
I observed nothing fishy. Everything added up almost perfectly.
And where minor descepancies did surface, reasonable explanations existed, such as ballots that had mistakenly been filled in with blue ink, which might not have been scanned properly.

I have concluded that the GOP NH primary was probably clean. However, its cleanliness was pure luck, given the chain-of-custody issues that are now well documented, thanks to Bev Harris and co.

 
Comment by Big M
2008-02-09 08:40:21

I always had two questions about Ron Paul. Let me say first that I consider him to be quite possibly the most principled person in Congress for the last 75 years, if not the last 100. His voting record speaks for itself. However . . .

One: if RP is the staunch constitutionalist that he seems, why (at least before the campaign) wasn’t he stridently demanding the impeachment of every single person in the Bush administration, on a daily basis?

Two: How can this man remain a member of a party that he has nothing in common with, ideologically speaking? He was a libertarian once. What made him join the Globalists On Parade, anyway? The chance for more exposure and, hence, more money? Beats me.

The fact that he wouldn’t ask for a recount in New Hampshire, to my mind, was the beginning of the end. If you’re not going to stand up and demand justice when you know you’re getting screwed four times a day in every hole you have, then you’ll get screwed five times a day, and your campaign contributions are going to go into the toilet when your supporters see that you don’t have the stones to fight back.

And by the way, has anybody besides me noticed that they STILL haven’t announced the final results of the recount there? It doesn’t take anywhere near this long in a state of less than 1 million people. They obviously kept things stalled as long as they could, figuring that exposing the blatant theft engineered by the Clinton campaign would endanger the “integrity” of the following primaries, which were all rigged as well. The entire process is rigged; the Village Idiot could see this. So, you let the other primaries go forward, and figure that either everybody is going to completely forget about NH, or that, in Clinton-era terms, they’ll call it “old news.”

Anyway, if Ron Paul is willing to remain part of a warmongering, Brownshirt/fascist party, he shouldn’t wonder at what happened to him, and what will continue to happen to him, although I seriously doubt that he’ll ever entertain the notion of running for Fascist-in-Chief again.

One last thing. If nothing else, Ron Paul’s campaign helped to thoroughly expose the stinking hoax of this dog-and-pony show called the electoral process in this country. If I were the dictator of a banana republic, I’d be scouring EBay and Amazon.com right now for an “American Democracy” starter kit.

And don’t be fooled by the a**holes that say that if you don’t vote, you don’t have a right to complain. If you are stupid enough to vote for ANY of these crooks, knowing who and what they are, and put them into office, then when they take the country into the crapper, YOU will be the one with no right to complain, because YOU aided and abetted them!

Comment by Richard Carpenter
2008-02-09 10:18:18

Ron Paul has to be the youngest 73-year-old in the world. His mind hasn’t lost a single move. Nevertheless, he is an old-school gentleman to a fault. How many times SHOULD he have yelled at abusive interviewers? He never did. If he has to have a fault, as we all do, I can live with that one. He is a great man.

 
Comment by Eugene Costa
2008-02-09 10:48:04

My view exactly–how can a Libertarian, Consitutionalist, and a member of Congress not be promoting and demanding with every breath the impeachment of criminals in the office of President and Vice President?

How can a serious Libertarian remain a member of the present Republican Party?

I do not question the sincerity of Paul’s anti-war sentiments, but other than that he seems to be either terminally naive or a sham, pursuing a hidden agenda under the cloak of what he calls “Libertarian” ideas.

Some of his campaigning points are also completely shallow on what he calls his “philosophy of Liberty”.

The idea that one “owns onself”, for example, is logically and politically nonsense, and in effect the application of an external property relation to an individual.

The proper way to phrase the matter is that an individual is not subject to ownership as property at all.

Comment by DesertRat
2008-02-09 16:13:22

His “hidden agenda” is to reenergize the base of the Republican Party and return it to what it is supposed to stand for. If you are wondering what that is then just listen to any of his speeches.

Not all of us Republicans are the enemy. After Ron Paul’s message energized me I became a precinct committeeman in the Republican party. I share his agenda of returning integrity to the Party.

This is not a partisan thing. I just realize that they have a political train that already has a depot in Washington, and that I am not alone in my disgust for their performance over the last several years.

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Comment by Eugene Costa
2008-02-09 17:05:39

Theo-Fascists and Neo-Fascists, otherwise known as Republicans and Democrats.

Though I have many Libertarian principles, especially in regard to interpreting both the Constitution and the American War of Independence, I have no interest whatever in re-energizing either the Democrat or Republican base.

Both parties are corrupt beyond reform, and executives and judges of both parties operate unconstitutionally as a matter of course.

The Two Party Duopoly is in fact a major part of the present political catastrophe.

 
 
 
Comment by John Lowell
2008-02-09 17:09:41

I won’t be voting, might have voted for Paul had he had the integrity to launch an independent bid, but he didn’t. Paul certainly has much to explain about his Republican connections at this point. It’s hardly enough to say that his views will get visibility and a hearing that way. He’s not interested in promoting them meaningfully. And the money. Oy! All that cash and no “principle” to spend it on? How prinicipled is that?

 
 
Comment by Petkov
2008-02-09 09:04:28

this proves Ron Paul was a phony from the start. Anybody with 2 functioning brain cells knows the 2 party system in the good ol’ USA is the main and the ONLY problem. Bwahahha, you poor Amerikkkans don’t stand a chance. Orwell was an optimist.

 
Comment by Heath
2008-02-09 09:21:52

From WRH

dept of state: McCain not eligible to be president?
Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth.
Posted Feb 8, 2008 03:41 PM PST
Category: POLITICS/ELECTIONS/CORRUPTION

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/citizenship.php

Why has nobody from the DRC or the GOP made an issue of this? Mccain should never have run in the first place.

Since AIPAC and Israel run our elections, we all know how the Zionists lie…………

Comment by Richard Carpenter
2008-02-09 10:05:51

Sorry, but I can’t imagine the supreme court taking the presidency away from McCain…especially if he picks a really nasty VP like Dick(less) Cheney. He’s probably having a “Pick the Nastiest Veep” contest right now.

 
Comment by Eugene Costa
2008-02-09 10:51:43

It is too late to pertain to McCain at the moment, but I have been arguing for years that there must be a constitutional amendment to prohibit a former POW from being president or vice president.

The national security risk is too great.

Comment by Joe C
2008-02-09 15:02:04

I hate to say it but I do agree with this…it seems harsh to add to a POWs burdens…”through no fault of your own except enduring heinous torture in prison, you can’t be president now, either”…but the national security risk is too great. Is it likely that anyone was programmed in this way? No. Is it impossible? No. And the repercussions would be unimaginable. The Manchurian Candidate is def possible to achieve.

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Comment by Eugene Costa
2008-02-09 17:14:21

I don’t consider it a burden. They should certainly have the right to sit in Congress. And with a comparatively limited president, as the Constitution envisages, it would not be a question of power and influence but merely of security.

Were McCain actually intelligent, rather than a blowhard narcissistic incompetent, he would have moved such a law himself, and been accorded the status of a veritable Cincinnatus in the future annals of the American Republic.

Right now, there is a real question whether there will be any future annals.

Such small minded, petty greedy clowns as are in politics today don’t bode well for much more of a future at all.

 
 
 
Comment by Joe C
2008-02-09 14:55:00

Oh lord think it through. A child born on a US military base to non-citizen parents doesn’t automatically get citizenship, but a child born to US citizens gets automatic citizenship even if they are on Mars.

Otherwise, all the kids born to all the servicemen and women overseas would have to apply for citizenship when their parents returned to the states. How idiotic would that be?

I’m not a big fan of a McCain presidency but this is the kind of silliness best reserved for DailyKos or the Huffington Post.

 
 
Comment by dodsworth
2008-02-09 09:41:34

Those who complain about Paul dropping out now are a strange group. He has alway said that he didn’t want to run third party. He is ruling it out in February thus giving us months to find another candidate. Would the naysayers have been happier if he had dropped out in September?

PAGING GARY JOHNSON. HE IS A LIBERTARIAN/ANTIWAR DREAM CANDIDATE!

Comment by abraham
2008-02-09 10:41:25

WHOM NO ONE HAS EVER HEARD OF!

 
Comment by Eugene Costa
2008-02-09 10:57:09

I would have been much more enthusiastic had he vigorously pursued impeachment, including Kucinich’s impeachment initiative, from the beginning, rather than opposing it, and then later supporting it only formally, and never making it a central part of his campaign.

There is no question in my mind, he would have increased his support in the primaries on that issue alone.

Structurally impeachment of the present criminals in the office of president and vice president is much more important than the presidential race.

Remaining in the Republican Party also suggests Paul is not serious about the principles he espouses.

 
Comment by Eugene Costa
2008-02-09 17:23:21

One of my main problems with Paul is that he was masquerading as in effect a Third Party with some of show of what he considered Libertarian ideas, almost all of them subtly skewed to that to of a conservative Christian and Capitalist Tendenz.

His childish “Philosophy of Liberty” is particularly offensive.

For all that I respect the man for having the courage to be consistently anti-war.

But his weakness on impeachment suggests he is not much of a Constitutionalist at all, and as president would do nothing but apply Libertarian ideas as a cover for entrenching a decidedly non-Libertarian political and financial elite.

Comment by Eugene Costa
2008-02-09 18:15:48

corr: “with some show”, “skewed to that of”

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Comment by abraham
2008-02-10 00:09:49

Wow, I’ve heard some odd conspiracy theories, but this one takes the cake.

His philosophy of liberty is “childish”?

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Comment by Eugene Costa
2008-02-11 15:40:45

What “conspiracy theory” are you talking about, my dear fellow–you sound like a Neo-Con.

If you own yourself, as Paul argues, you can sell yourself to someone else.

Or even sell yourself to yourself.

The latter transaction will likely keep you occupied for some days.

If this isn’t childish, as analysis of person, self, ownership and property rights, what is?

You are invited to argue out all the details with yourself.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Richard Carpenter
2008-02-09 09:52:04

All antiwar libertarians are sorry Ron Paul did not win. We are even sorrier McCain did. IMO, it is time to support Obama with everything we have. We absolutely cannot risk McKook’s finger on the button, nuclear or conventional. The pro-war side prefers Hillary to Obama, which is all the reason we need to support him over her. Of course, there are other reasons not to want Hillary. Compared to her husband, she has a political “tin ear”, worse than her musical one. Bill needs to be liked; he reads public opinion instinctively. He has always avoided unpopular decisions, especially endless wars. Hillary revels in being hated. If she decides to start a war with Iran she will care nothing for public opinion, even among her own party. Nevertheless, if it comes down to Hillary against McCain, we have to support her. Why? At least she will inspire the remaining republicans to grow some balls and oppose her. They would surrender their balls to McCain just as they did to Bush.

Comment by Liberaltarian
2008-02-09 12:25:55

Barack Obama has never said anything of substance. He is a hollow as George Bush’s head. He alway’s speaks in generalities and is vague about the change he will bring. But if you want a president to smoke crack with well……..

Comment by Ben
2008-02-09 12:47:53

I was a big time Ron Paul supporter… sent him money, campaigned for him. I thought he was a man who put country before party. Apparently he is a man who puts party before country. Without a Ron Paul third party candidacy, there will be no candidate running who will talk about the need to restore the Constitution as a major part of his campaign. That means the Constitution is effectively gutted, and will remain so without some kind of unforeseen and massive rebellion.

I thought you were a patriot, Paul, who was running to get your issues addressed. I guess you’re just another politician.

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Comment by John Lowell
2008-02-09 17:14:11

Yup!

 
Comment by Eugene Costa
2008-02-09 17:32:29

Meanwhile he has a huge campaign war chest gathered from many a Libertarian contributor, while he denatures Libertarian ideas by trying to fit them into the Republican party.

Indeed his true mission may have well been that–to make sure the Libertarians were incapable of a persuasive run themselves, particularly on the anti-war issue.

Meanwhile he takes the money and runs.

How much damage has he now done to the Libertarian party thereby?

Another Randian predator, this time of the Fundamentalist Christian sort, masquerading as a Constitutionalist and Libertarian.

 
Comment by John Lowell
2008-02-09 19:28:07

I think he’s used his supporters. There was a video clip of him here a couple of weeks ago in which he waxed expansively about “the cause”, etc. It almost seemed as though he’d bought into all of the credulous horse manure his college student leadership was shoveling at the time, you know, the ones whose web-soliciting was feeding his coffers. They built him up into a kind of saint, creating a cult of the personality. Now he looks more like an abusive priest, having first shown them the chalice, then fondling them as they oggled it.

 
Comment by abraham
2008-02-10 00:36:02

God, you people are scary. I’ll bet not a one of you actually went out to vote and show your support for Paul in your respective state caucus.

But wait, it gets better. Paul is also being blamed for “damaging” the LP. As if embracing idiots like Neil Boortz, who is basically a neocon who calls himself a Libertarian, didn’t kill the party years ago.

Get a clue.

 
 
Comment by Eugene Costa
2008-02-09 17:53:23

Who knows what is behind the mask?

It might be very, very good or it might be very, very bad.

The odds are it is, like the Kennedy whose rhetoric he mimics, extraordinary only in its mediocrity.

Still I don’t quite see how a Libertarian can justly criticize his youthful drug use.

At least he has been honest enough to admit it, unlike Clinton or Bush.

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Comment by ralphie
2008-02-09 10:02:30

THIS was our chance.
The psychos arent going to allow a “next time”.

Big Darkness, Soon Come.
Hunter S. Thomson

Comment by Bruce
2008-02-10 11:09:56

Please, people..get a clue! Ron Paul is much more useful as a Texas congressman than he would be as a marginalized ‘has-been’ like a Ross Perot or John Anderson(remember him?). And at this point if Paul even LOOKED like he might get anywhere near 1600 Penn.Ave. he’d have a mortal “accident”. No, I believe that Ron Paul has ‘lit the fuse’ of awareness in American politics. Now we, the masses, are looking…watching.Ron will be back. This isn’t our last shot. It’s truly our first. If the movement to get our government back isn’t gradual, incrimental, it will be squashed quickly(remember the Haliburton/BRC camps?). No, they’re ready for a 1776 style revoulition. We can’t hide behind trees with flintlocks this time. Enlightenment, like we’ve seen it the Paul run tells me we can do it. We need education, determination and a plan…but above all patience. They’re not publically executing disidents…yet. They’re just pissing us off and making a peaceful, normal lifestyle VERY difficult. Our time is comming and with GOD’s help and people like Ron Paul to lead us WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT we will prevail. But violent overthrow will not work this time because THAT is what they’re expecting (hoping for…).

 
 
Comment by Tom L
2008-02-09 10:09:09

It’s stupid to pour venom on Dr. Paul for not wanting to continue tilting at windmills within a presidential system that we all know to be fundamentally broken. Consider his position now when he goes back to Congress in the fall. He’s in a much better position with his peers who’ve been too scared to buck the party line, both of them. Now he can really try and build a coalition of a size greater than 1 or 2 to oppose some of the inanities promulgated by that body.

If he continues on to the convention in St. Paul he has that opportunity to raise his standing within the party and garner support either for a takeover of it, or lead a faction away from it.

He’s smart enough to know that while the cracks in the system are beginning to show, at that point, they are not big enough to break things wide open. That may happen between now and September, it might be in 2010 or 2012, but either way, if he leads a 3rd party charge to nowhere this summer he has squandered all of the capital he’s built in the past year.

It’s the safer bet, the more prudent bet. Maybe not the most inspiring bet. In the end, he’s at the end of his career and it’s our job to pick up the flag and keep moving it forward and have enough of an organization to strike when the time is truly right.

Right now, Americans are still too much in love with sociopathic machismo and belligerence to accept the truth that peace is truly stronger. That point may take a little longer to make than we’d like, but Dr. Paul has, IMO, shortened that time horizon.

Ta,

Comment by abraham
2008-02-09 10:43:12

I endorse this message.

 
Comment by Eugene Costa
2008-02-09 11:31:44

If what you say is valid, then I expect Paul as a Congressman to begin pursuing impeachment, including Kucinich’s motion to impeach Cheney, immediately and with vigor.

Why am I suspicious that will not be the case at all?

Comment by chris
2008-02-09 16:44:51

Yeah, because impeachment proceedings will really get past committee and everything….

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Comment by Eugene Costa
2008-02-09 17:35:22

Actually they don’t have to get past committee constitutionally. Those are purely procedural rules. And the fact that Paul opposed impeachment initially and is lukewarm now certainly did not push forward Kucinich’s motion to impeach Cheney, did it?

 
Comment by Stan D. Thomas
2008-02-10 08:24:14

So impeach cheney leads to bush pardon and months of wasted effort. In the end you’ve pissed off party leadership during an election your trying to win. He should do all this for you. Would that win you vote? Do you vote? Hmmm….

 
Comment by Eugene Costa
2008-02-10 17:14:38

You seem to know nothing about impeachment.

The penalty for successful impeachment is removal from office. There is no pardon.

Impeaching Bush before he pardons the other criminals in office wholesale is another high recommendation for impeaching both of them immediately.

But obviously that sort of accountability is not what you are interested in.

 
 
 
 
Comment by GM
2008-02-09 10:16:07

Dr. Paul should think about a presidential run for 2012. In polls, McCain loses to Obama or Clinton. In Obama’s case, McCain loses by double digits. The GOP as a whole is polling badly and the Dems probably will win in a landslide. In the aftermath of the GOP electoral destruction, the party will want to move away from its neoconservative orientation and will be more open to figures likes Dr. Paul who want to move the party away from neoconservatism.

Comment by John Lowell
2008-02-09 17:17:35

Dr. Paul should think about the value of enema right now. He has about as much credibility as Ahmed Chalabi.

Comment by Stan D. Thomas
2008-02-10 08:24:45

And you have less.

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Comment by Stan D. Thomas
2008-02-10 08:25:46

;-)

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Comment by grassyknolluk
2008-02-09 10:17:19

I accuse the ‘Media’ of being guilty of crimes of omission. Ron Paul deserved better (some) coverage. God help America! And her (few remaining) allies.

Comment by Stan D. Thomas
2008-02-10 08:28:14

Why? They work for their stockholders. We are just the sheep that pay their salaries. We are not their customers. They made no contract with us and have no obligation. Take the blue pill.

 
 
Comment by abraham
2008-02-09 10:44:52

Well, people, time to stop crying. Sell what you don’t need and use that money to buy weapons and ammunition. Also make sure you get some good body armor and other supplies so you can stay in the fight for as long as possible.

Do this now. When they station a sentry down the block on the corner, it will be too late.

Do this now.

 
Comment by Rick
2008-02-09 11:15:44

I like Ron Paul and have given him money. Alone among his party’s contenders he has put forward a sane foreign policy vision. The others, without exception, promote a fascist, corporatist, imperial foreign and domestic (economic) agenda. Alas, he has run a terrible campaign, although his supporters have done a great job on his behalf. I should say that I am a Democrat and that while I have sympathy for some of his criticisms of the Fed and Wall Street, and his correct critique of our borrowing and spending ourselves into oblivion, his proposed “cures” would kill the patient. The naivete of Libertarian economic policy is such that it blinds one to the real causes of the current economic collapse and the real enemies of our national sovereignty.

The cause of the collapse is the last 40 or so years of disinvestment in infrastructure, the dismantling of the FDR regulatory regime and the resulting de-industrialization of the US. The enemy is the global financial oligarchy centered in the City of London and Wall Street who despise any form of national sovereignty that promotes the Common Good for its citizenry. These sharks have used the philosophy of Free Trade to grow obscenely rich by asset-stripping industry and national infrastructure and plowing the resultant wall of cash into Ponzi-like financial pyramids such as CDOs and Derivatives. That mass of casino funny money is orders of magnitude beyond what the physical economy can support. The post-Bretton Woods system is wholly bankrupt and in systemic collapse now. More Free Trade Globalization will only make the final collapse that much worse.

The only solution is an orderly bankruptcy reorganization modeled on FDR’s bank holiday, reorganization and re-regulation to eliminate speculation and steer investment back into productive enterprises and infrastructure. Absent that, the oligarchy will do as they did in the 20’s and 30’s when they backed Mussolini and Hitler as their solution to the depression they caused. This time it will be through the agency of a Bloomberg or McCain presidency.

I don’t fool myself into thinking that either Hillary or Barack understand either what is happening or the proper corrective measures that need to be taken, but their party retains at least a smidgeon of FDR’s DNA. One of them is going to be our only hope of avoiding a devolution into fascism, economic meltdown on a par with the 14th century little dark age and global war. Hoping for a slow Paulite revolution that re-takes the conservative movement is foolhardy. That will take years, and we have only months at best to start fixing the horrible damage wrought over the recent decades.

I expect that Free Traders (or Free Traitors as I call them) and Libertarians will howl and gnash their teeth and fight this necessary course to the last. It is because somehow they have been convinced that the British Free Trade dogma that we fought a revolution against is actually what built this country. No, that would be the American System of Hamilton, the Whigs, The Lincoln GOP and FDR. Failure to use the power of the constitution and our federal agencies to re-animate the American System of political economy will result in the final death of our Republic.