It’s About Time
From Laura Rozen, writing on the Mother Jones blog:
“It was only then, after the Serbian occupation had been driven out, that I learned an ugly lesson: that sometimes when the oppressed are liberated, they act with the brutality of their former tormenters. In the aftermath of the 1999 Nato intervention in Yugoslavia, ethnic cleansing continued, only this time the majority of the atrocities being meted out were by the majority Albanians against the province’s minority Serbs, Roma, and Turks. It was a phenomenon witnessed later in the aftermath of the overthrow of Saddam Hussein.”
Yes, but one has to wonder: how come it took so long to learn — or publicly aknowledge — this lesson? At least the neocons — or some of them, such as Francis Fukuyama, and Andrew Sullivan — had the class to utter a few mea culpas within a reasonable time-frame. Except for Laura, however, the Clintonian interventionists, are still touting their great “victory” — nearly a decade after the horrific results have been all too apparent.
Robert Mitchum
February 20th, 2008 at 10:06 am
Never mind the usage of “Serbian occupation” as if it was possible to be an occupier in your own country and on your ancestral land.
Never mind the fact that Serbs were being forced out of the province in the face of everyday harassment by Albanians for decades during this ostensible torment of Albanians by the “brutal” “Serbian occupation”.
Never mind this.
Only take note at this one fact; even people like this who talk in terms of “Serbian occupation” and the supposed torment of Albanians and brutality of the Serbs acknowledge Albanians target each and every one of the minorities of Kosovo. Serbs, Bosniaks, Montenegrins, Roma, Turks, Gorani, Jews, Egyptians. It doesn`t matter. Every single minority is targeted. How come where Albanians make the mayority no other ethnic group is safe?
Contrast this with the Serbian province of Vojvodina. While the Serbs make the absolute mayority of the population the province is ethnicaly the most diverse province in Europe. Home to Serbs, Hungarians, Croats, Slovaks, Czechs, Ukraininans, Rusyns, Montenegrins, Roma, Romanians and many others. How come all theese ethnic groups find themselves living safely among the sea of the supposedly brutal Serbs, while no minority of Kosovo is safe before the supposedly victimised Albanians??
How come tens of thousands of Albanians can safely reside in Serbia proper, but the Serbs of Kosovo need to be guarded by barbed wire and international peacekeepers?
Stanley Laham
February 20th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
How come??
Because the US, EU, and NATO command it to be so!
Because Russia and the Serbs lack the backbone(political will) to fight back!
Because in this new world order it does not suffice to bark only, but to muster the courage to bite!
Because the Serbs, Russia included, could not do in their own neighborhood what Fidel has done right under the nose of the empire for nearly 50 years: Resist!
Because if you can’t fight for your own house, you should stop whining about international law!
Maybe because, as Winston Churchill believed, the world is to be run by certain races and not others!
(ps: these comments are directed mainly at Serbian Russia.)
Rex in Australia
February 20th, 2008 at 3:21 pm
I am worried that something will set off another Balkan crisis and that another Clinton will be in office when it happens. Then maybe the minorities in Kosovo will want to set up their own country there and get revenge…and so on, and so on….(sigh). We must remember that that region has had multicultural society for hundreds of years (I’m mainly talking about historic Hungary), so it is sad to see a reversion to ethnic division. Of course, some may see this as a positive thing, but I think humans need to deal with living together for future survival.
ps. it IS interesting how the oppressed become the oppressors so often. Israel is the ultimate example.
Dano
February 20th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
“Because if you can’t fight for your own house, you should stop whining about international law!”
I think Stanley is a little confused. Serbs have always fought long and hard for what is theirs, and paid a heavy toll. It has only been a few day since the albanians declared independence and this situation is just the beginning. It would be stupid of them to just march in and take on NATO troops, even though they could probably do it without Russia’s help.
You have to look long term at this situation. We are on the verge of an economic catastrophe in the west which will bankrupt America, quite possibly dissolve the EU, and the Serbs will have their chance, and there won’t be anyone who will be able to stop them.
I agree with you on one point, you have to resist. I believe that Serbia should leave the UN and immediately work with Russia to become the next nuclear country.
But speaking of resist, the Serbs resisted in 1999 as all the major powers of the world bombarded them like cowards from 30,000 feet. There has never been such a concerted effort by the world gang up on and attack a little country of 10 million people. It was almost laughable, and if it weren’t for the commie Milosevic selling out, they could have won that conflict.
But maybe we should look closer to home before we criticize the Serbs. Very soon we will all be carrying a national ID card and going through checkpoints here in the name of our own safety, and there won’t be much of a fight at all from anyone…because most of us have become fat, lazy, cowards! And you say the Serbs have no backbone?!
Your statment should have read…”Because if you can’t fight for your own house, you should stop whining about the constitution!”
The New World Order you talk about would end in a split second if Americans rose up and reclaimed what is rightfully theirs…their own f@#king country!!
Maybe we should stop expecting the Serbs to do our dirty work for us and resist ourselves.
Eugene Costa
February 20th, 2008 at 11:02 pm
“SINGAPORE (AFP February 20,2008 – World oil prices hit a new record of 101.32 dollars a barrel on renewed concerns over global crude supplies, dealers said Thursday.”
Stanley Laham
February 20th, 2008 at 11:17 pm
Believe me Dano, I am outraged as any Serb by the calculated dismemberment of the former Yugoslavia. I am, it seems, more outraged than the Iraqis by the barbaric bombing of that country in 91, followed by twelve years of an infanticidal embargo, and finally its brutal invasion and occupation. It is beyond me how any Iraqi can collaborate with their tormentors.
It is equally perplexing to me how Russia has lacked the political will to protect its own backyard. I meant no disrespect for the Serbian people. I was merely venting my anger at the perfidy of the Western Powers after the dissolution of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact. Russia should now demand the dissolution of NATO which no longer has any legitimate reason to exist. Its purpose is simply to advance Western influence and might to the east.
As far as the American people are concerned, they have either been zombified or are afflicted with terminal stupidity. You know the old adage: “a people will get the government that they deserve”. There is no hope from this quarter.
Dano
February 20th, 2008 at 11:53 pm
My apologies for misinterpreting your original statement.
I believe that Mr. Putin is not a stupid individual. In fact, it seems to me that he is quite a clever chess player who is able to look to the long term in these situations, unlike our useless leaders who can’t see past the next election.
He is well aware that it is useless to fight the Americans and western Europeans when they are soon about to fall on their faces financially. Let them collapse of their own weight, just like we let the Soviet Union collapse due to its fiscal irresponsibility. All he is doing is waiting for the inevitable to happen and keeping western hands off his country in the meantime. He has successfully shut down many US/Western backed NGOs and minimized US influence in his country, for which everyone has cried that he is “back-tracking on democratic reforms”.
I do believe he will still be in power in Russia when this Kosovo error is corrected and he will get the last laugh. Perhaps I am being naive but I don’t think our hubris will last much longer when the reality of our situation really kicks in.
Thanks for your insights.
Carl Savich
February 20th, 2008 at 11:58 pm
Remember how the U.S. government and U.S. media explained these mass murders of Kosovo Serbs, Roma, and other minorities. They were “revenge attacks”. They sure do not know anything about criminal law or even fundamental notions of morality and ethics.
Here is the U.S. rationale: Because Yugoslav police were defending themselves and Kosovo civilians against what the U.S. State Department itself declared were “terrorists”, the Albanian Muslim population of Kosovo had some sort of right to murder any Serbian civilian and destroy 150 Serbian Orthodox Churches?
It is mindless and insane. First off, based on fundamental legal principles, the Albanians are the party that is the one committing the initial criminal act: The murder of Serbian civilians and police in Kosovo to create a Greater Albania, an ethnically pure “Kosova”. How can they take revenge when it is they who are committing the initial crimes, the murders of Kosovo Serbs and other ALbanians and other minorities who oppose the creation of an illegal Greater Albania?
It is mindless drivel. The Nazis too justified the mass murders of Jews as “revenge attacks”, revenge for alleged Jewish crimes against the German people. Jewish policies and actions, the Nazis argued, had led to the deaths of Germans. Now the Germans were taking revenge in “revenge attacks”. The U.S. adopted this same strategy as the Nazis.
But it does not exist in law, any law anywhere. Assuming arguendo that you attack me and cause me harm. I then have no right to a “revenge attack” against you. I cannot murder you and be excused for committing a revenge attack. It is preposterous and ridiculous. Murder is murder. There is no revenge exception to murder.
But this is what the U.S. government and media did. And they have succeeded. The U.S. has created an ethnically pure Albanian “Kosova”. So much for the genocie argument. There was a genocide committed in Kosovo…by the U.S., against Kosovo Serbs, Roma, Gorani, Turks, and Jews.
Such crimes only sow the seeds for future wars and conflicts.
Eugene Costa
February 21st, 2008 at 7:56 am
“Never interfere when the enemy is making a mistake”.
[Napoleon Bonaparte]
Carl Savich
February 21st, 2008 at 11:11 am
“Revenge murders” and “revenge attacks” are terms concocted by someone or some thing. These are not natural or even common designations. Almost all murders are motivated by some aspect of revenge. The term is an oxymoron. No one who is sane would ever sanction “revenge murders”. This, however, is exactly what the U.S. government and media did. They were the ones who manufactured these propaganda constructs.
But these were not the first. US propaganda and infowar/psyop techniques manufactured the term “Bosnian” to mean exclusively a Muslim from Bosnia, an ethnic term. But “Bosnia” is merely the name of a river. That is where the name comes from. In the former Yugoslavia, the terms Bosanac and Bosanci were commonly used, but they referred to Serbs, Croats, and Muslims. It was US psyop warfare techniques that transformed the word to mean ONLY Muslims. US psyops changed the meaning by rigidly restricting the term. Three groups were indigenous to Bosnia: Serbs, Croats, and Muslims. They were all Bosnians. But US propaganda changed that to mean only Muslims.
The biggest US infowar whopper, however, was the term “Croatian Serb”? What is that? It it an oxymoron. Also, no one in the former Yugoslavia used that term, Hrvatski Srbi. This suggest a foreign origin for that word, namely, Washington, DC, the US State Department, and psyops specialists. Why was the term manufactured?
The US infowar objective was to tell us how to think: Serbs in Krajina, the region of Croatia where they lived, could only live in Croatia. They could not be referred to as Krajina Serbs or simply as Serbs. That would tend to favor their self-determination rights in declaring independence from Croatia. In short, the psyop term was created by the US to deny or prevent the Krajina Serbs from separating from Croatia, something the US wanted to do only for Kosovo Albanian Muslims.
The US psyop term “Croatian Serbs” is similar to the Israeli term “Israeli Arabs”. The function is almost identical. The psyop specialist wants you to think a certain way and preclude another way of thinking. The goal in this case is to tell us that these Arabs, Palestinians, are only generic Arabs who live in Israel. If they were called “Palestinians”, then that might get one to thinking that they might have claims on Israeli territory. The same applies to the term “Croatian Serbs”. These are Serbs who live inside Croatia and have no rights whatsoever outside of Croatia, i.e., in demanding a referendum to secede from Croatia based on majority population, will of the people, and rights of self-determination.
“Croatian Serbs” was the masterpiece of US psyop brainwashing. But the term “Kosovar” is also a masterpiece of brainwashing and deception and obfuscation. In the former Yugoslavia, Albanians are known as Albanci or Shqiptari, the two terms are identical. No one ever referred to them as “Kosovari” or “Kosovars”. That is an alien and foreign term. Lights should go off and red flags should appear. Kosovar is a foreign term created by the US State Department. It is a term coined by the US government.
What does “Kosovar” mean? It means absolutely nothing. There is no such animal and there never was. “Kosovo” is a Serbian or Slavic word that means “place of blackbirds”, even in the Shqip or Albanian form as “Kosova”. “Kos” is Serbian for blackbird. Now why would violently anti-Serbian racist ALbanians adopt a pure Serbian term to refer to their ethnicity and identity? It is pure insanity and madness. This also shows that it was manufactured in the US. “Kosovars” are ethnic Albanians, mostly Muslim, who speak Albanian, look Albanian, talk Albanian, walk Albanian, and have an Albanian flag. Duh! They are Albanians.
But the US psyop specialist gives them a national identity by giving them a Serbian name, “Kosovo”, Serbian for “place of blackbirds”. It does not make any sense. What is the objective?
Of course, the goal is the opposite of the one using “Croatian Serbs”. The Kosovars can be called “Serbian Albanians”. But the US propagandist and brainwasher does not do this. Why? Because the goal is to create some sort of new nationality called “Kosovan” or “Kosovar”, a totally fake or phony creation by the US government and US infowar specialist. In short, by one term the US brainwasher wants to preclude secession (”Croatian Serbs”) while in the other the goal is to achieve secession (”Kosovar”)
The US infowar techniques are mind numbing and endless. These are just the salient instances.
There is no question the US government and media were screwing and brainwashing our minds. It did not start with the Weapons of Mass Destruction lie of George W. Bush. This is a pattern and systematic practice. They sure enjoy screwing and manipulating our minds, telling us how we have to think, in some sort of MindScrew.
Dano
February 21st, 2008 at 12:47 pm
Thanks for you comments Carl. This is info that Americans need to be aware of. It reminds me of all the rhetoric at the beginning of the Bosnia conflict that Serbs have “seized” 65% of the territory of Bosnia, and at the beginning of the war in Croatia that the Serbs have “seized” 35% of the independent state of Croatia.
To someone who does not understand the region, it implies that the Serbs were foreign elements who invaded these areas and stole this land, when in reality (and anyone could have done the research to see population distributions in these regions), they owned this land and lived there for centuries. But all it took was the twisting of words to lull people into stupidity and everyone bought into the lies. The Serbs MUST be murderous barbarians if they just stole all this land.
The sad thing is that people make a very good living working for the US Govt to do this job of coining phrases that screw with peoples heads as the wool is pulled over their eyes by their “elected” officials. This happens not just internationally but domestically as well.
People need to educate themselves to these realities. I think reversing this trend needs to start with a healthy mistrust (read: don’t believe a single word that comes from people in power until you can verify it for yourself from many, especially independent, sources) of government.
Unfortunately, this takes work, and I don’t believe most people are frankly that interested in being educated citizens. But surely, one day, their laziness will bite them on the ass very hard.
Carl Savich
February 21st, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Why were the Bosnian Serbs denied their inherent human right to self-determination? Why were the Krajina Serbs denied the same right to self-determination? The Krajina region was a majority Serbian area, 90% Serbian. Many parts of Bosnia were 90% Serbian. Why did the US oppose their inherent right to self-determination? The Knin area of Krajina was approximately 90% Serbian majority.
But of course the way the US brainwashing technique worked was in this case to ignore the Serbian majority. In other words, whether Knin was 90% was irrelevant because the UN had recognized Croatia’s borders.
Now with Serbia, the US brainwasher took the opposite position. Yes, the UN had recognized Serbia’s borders, but…Albanian Muslims were a majority in a small section of Serbia. It is totally arbitrary and specious and certainly illegal and criminal under international law. The US can act as a war criminal and can get away with it. We do it because we can.
The game is insulting because it assumes that we cannot figure out the stupid game that the US brainwasher and psyop specialist is playing.
And we are all victims. They pulled this on all of us Americans. The Weapons of Mass Destruction deception assumed that we as Americans are all brain dead. But it is all the same psychopathology. You are either selling “genocide” and the “Holocaust” or “Weapons of Mass Destruction” and “Uranium from Niger” and an “Iranian atomic bomb”. It is all cut from the same cloth.
Now they are trying to foist on us this criminally insane, psychopath John McCain clown as if we are too stupid to see what that brain dead raving lunatic is. Just look as his smile. Like Tom Lantos and Joe Biden, he has this insane asylum smile, like the smile of a raving, foaming-at-the-mouth lunatic and psychopath. Just study that psychopath SMILE or leer or smirk.
Ultimately, this is about Americans. All of this MindScrew is, in the final analysis, aimed at Americans, not Serbs. The US psyop specialist could care less what the Serbs think. They will think what we tell them to think. That is “democracy” and “freedom” for you.
This manipulation and deception is aimed at Americans. And when there is no accountability and feedback mechanisms, they can pretty much do as they please. They can create two Albanian states, they can detach territory from Serbia as they please. They can invade Iraq, Iran, or any other entity on the globe. There is no accountability and no control apparatus. The Benevolent Global Hegemon has gone berserk!
Stanley Laham
February 21st, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Actually Carl it was always berserk and rarely benevolent. In Latin America, we always knew that. Youtube Che Guevara talking in 1961 about the bestiality of North American imperialism. Read the seminal work of Juan Arevalo, a former president of Guatemala in the early fifties entitled: “The Shark and the Sardines”, or Naomi Klein’s current masterful research: “ The Shock Doctrine- The Rise of Disaster Capitalism”. See in the latter how the techniques of torture, mind control, brainwashing and the Chicago School of Economics are related. South America was the enormous laboratory where all these methods were tested with a ruthlessness that would make Stalin blush.
Eastern Europe in those days lived in a Soviet cocoon and always thought that the grass was greener on the other side of the fence. But it wasn’t. US special ops was carried out by Hollywood that bamboozled the rest of the world with a fake vision of the American way. While growing up overseas, I lived under the impression nurtured by so many of these Hollywood movies (my father owned a cinema) that the United States was a pillar of justice and fair play whose great power was matched only by its unequaled magnanimity(I was thirteen and can be excused). I think that most people living in Eastern Europe were similarly deceived.
Propaganda in the US was always more subtle then in the former Soviet Union, almost subliminal, and therefore that much more effective. Propaganda, along with a good dose of Soviet ineptitude, was more responsible for the collapse of the Eastern Bloc than economics.
MetaCynic
February 21st, 2008 at 3:41 pm
IMPORTANT NEWS BULLETIN February 17, 2012
This morning Vladimir Putin, the President of Russia and Wen Jiabao, the Premier of China, addressed hundreds of thousands of jubilant Mexicans from in front of the former Los Angeles City Hall building. They congratulated the people, on this, the independence day of their new nation, Aztlan, and announced that Russia and China will be the first countries to recognize it. The two heads of state are in Los Angeles, now the capital of Aztlan, to sign treaties to build military bases in Aztlan.
Pablo Gomez, the head of La Raza, the political party now in control of Aztlan issued a statement justifying his party’s call for the secession of Aztlan from the United States. “For decades,” wrote Mr. Gomez, “millions of Anglos have streamed out of Southern California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas leaving ethnic Mexicans a ninety percent majority. It is now time for us to control our destiny and free ourselves from the oppressive rule of the imperialist United States.”
President Hilary Clinton, visiting Pristina, Kosovo to participate in the festivities celebrating the 4th anniversary of the independence of Kosovo from Serbia issued a terse statement that “America never did anything to deserve this assault on its sovereignity. The CIA has evidence that Russia and China have joined the vast global right wing conspiracy to embarrass my administration,” she said.
Secretary of State, Bill Clinton, accompanying the President to Kosovo, was unavailable for comment from his hospital bed in Pristina after an emergency emasculation. While laying the cornerstone for the first McDonald’s restaurant in Kosovo on the site of a former Serbian monastery, the Secretary had an unfortunate mishap stepping on an unexploded cluster bomb left over from NATO’s 1999 bombing campaign of Serbia. State Department spokeswoman, Monica Lewinsky, rushing to Pristina to comfort the injured Mr. Clinton, issued a statement that the U.S. “will lodge a complaint demanding that those responsible for this cruel collateral damage to Mr. Clinton be sought out and punished.”
When asked by reporters to comment on the new country, Aztlan, that just seceded, former President, George W. Bush, in exile on his ranch in Paraguay, smirked knowingly and said, “I always had the funny feeling that Atlanta would succeed.”
Reporters were unable to reach former Arizona Senator and 2008 Presidential candidate John McCain, for comments. In 2009, Senator McCain’s amnesty legislation for millions of illegal Mexican aliens was finally passed by Congress and signed into law by President Clinton. Authorities are still searching for Mr. McCain in the smoldering ruins of his mansion in Scottsdale after it was torched during the night by angry neighbors.
Meanwhile the CEO of Monsanto, Madeleine Albright, the former Secretary of State during the Bill Clinton Administration, held an urgent meeting with a representative of the majority shareholder in Monsanto, the People’s Liberation Army of China. In response to shareholder accusations that Monsanto, the conglomerate that now owns all the arable land in the United States, has fallen behind in fulfilling its crop quotas for China, Ms. Albright issued a statement that she will request that President Clinton invoke the Homegrown Terrorist Act to free up additional farmland by declaring all remaining suburban subdivisions in the midwest to be terrorist enclaves. In a recent War Street Journal article, Ms Albright expressed her opinion that 500,000 confirmed deaths out of the millions of Americans already expelled from their homes to create more farmland for Monsanto is a small price to pay to serve the one indispensable nation on earth- China.
Carl Savich
February 21st, 2008 at 8:14 pm
Stanley Laham, I totally agree with you. US imperialism and colonialism on a global scale began in 1898 with the Spanish American War. This is when the US became a global empirial and colonial power. It did not start with the neocons and George W. Bush. The US provoked and manufactured “a splendid little war” with Spain and detached Cuba, the Philippines, Guam, and Puerto Rico from Spain.
US imperialism and colonialism in Latin and South America were rampant in the 20th cebtury.
The US first pulled an illegal Kosovo style dismemberment of an existing state with Panama. The US engineered the secession and independence of Panama, which had been a province of Columbia. Why did the US do this criminal act? So the US could build the Panama Canal. Columbia opposed its construction. The US responded by detaching a province from Columbia, Panama.
Here is how I described it in an article published on Antiwar.com on April 12, 2003:
“In 1904, President Theodore Roosevelt enunciated the Corollary to the Monroe Doctrine which allowed the US to intervene anywhere in the Western Hemisphere to prevent intervention by European powers.
In 1903, the US needed to build the Panama Canal for strategic military and commercial reasons. This necessitated a regime change. Panama had been a northern province of Colombia. Colombia, however, did not back the US plan to create a canal on Colombian territory that the US would occupy and have sovereignty over. The way the US government got around this problem was to send US Marines to Colombia to engineer the “independence” of the province of Panama. They then installed a US-backed regime in the newly independent nation of Panama.
The US established military bases in Nicaragua from 1912 to 1925. In 1909, the US had engineered a regime change by helping to depose the Liberal General Jose Zelaya. In 1925 the US created the National Guard in Nicaragua. Augusto Cesare Sandino waged a guerrilla war from 1926 to 1932 to expel the US military forces. In 1934, Sandino was assassinated by the National Guard forces under Anastasio Somoza. Somoza would rule the country as a dictator with US backing until his own assassination in 1956. During the 1980s, the Reagan administration trained Contras that sought “regime change” in Nicaragua by overthrowing the Ortega government and restoration of a US-installed dictator.”
Here is a link to the entire Antiwar.com article, “Regime Change: Is this a New Policy?, April 12, 2003:
http://www.antiwar.com/orig/savich2.html
So the Panama scenario is probably the best precursor to what is happening in Kosovo today. The US has detached by criminal means and solely by the use of force a province of Serbia in order to establish a militaryt, economic, and geo-political presence in the Balkans, “Southeastern Europe” in CIA jargon. Serbia must be dismembered because Serbia is an obstacle to US expansion in the region.
So I totally agree with you. Kosovo is not sui generis. Kosovo is the latest victim to US expansionism.`
Eugene Costa
February 21st, 2008 at 9:30 pm
“The US embassy in Belgrade is a sovereign territory.”
[Zalmay Khalilzad]
Eugene Costa
February 21st, 2008 at 10:38 pm
It is a pity Khalilzad has no discernible literary ability. With any reputation at all in arts and letters, this sentence alone would have won him world acclaim as an ironist of first rank.
Stanley Laham
February 22nd, 2008 at 9:06 am
Great review Carl! Thanks
Carl Savich
February 22nd, 2008 at 11:17 am
Khalilzad demonstrates incredible irony…or monumental stupidity.
The Serbian people should respect “sovereignty” just like the U.S. Global Hegemon does in Iraq, Afghanistan, Serbia, and anywhere else…
Just like the U.S. respects “sovereignty”, so should the Serbs! What hypocrisy! What insanity!
Eugene Costa
February 22nd, 2008 at 6:17 pm
“WASHINGTON (Gearan AP February 22,2008) Serbia’s government failed to protect U.S. and other Western embassies from nationalist mobs angry over the international embrace of the former Serb province of Kosovo as an independent state, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Friday….”
What an outrage! Surely the Serbs have a secret nuclear program and huge stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction! Who knows what stood unscathed and pristine in Tito’s tunnels while the US and Nato destroyed the infrastructure and killed civilians from 30,000 feet?
Eugene Costa
February 22nd, 2008 at 6:40 pm
I remember it as if it were yesterday–when the whole Yugoslav Army, under the command of Saddam Hussein, made the amphibious attack on Manhattan.
They made their way across the Battery and gleefully poured kerosene over the Twin Towers, then set them afire.
NEVER FORGET!
THE SERB TERRORISTS HATE AMERICA”S FREEDOM!
Carl Savich
February 22nd, 2008 at 7:07 pm
Notice how Rice uses the term “nationalists” here.
Here is the usual dichotomy:
We are always patriots and patriotic and always defend our country.
They are always nationalists who want to enslave others.
The murder of one million Iraqi Muslims is an act of patriotic duty and of patriotism done by patriots. And it certainly is not genocide. That is only what others do, not us. When we murder one million Muslims, it is just a statistic, which we can accept or reject.
But when Serbs are justifiably enraged at the annexationn of 15% of their country, they are invariably “nationalists”.
Of course, the great irony here is that the Albanians are the real nationalists, who seek to create a NATION out of Serbian territory by illegal means, by just declaring it.
I can declare New York City an independent NATION, but that does not make it legal.
Nationalism versus Patriotism. Albanians are patriots while Serbs are nationalists. What a hoot.
Of course, the term that best defines this phenomenon is psychopathology.
Rice is deluded and really does not have a clue about what she is saying. It is braindead political leaders like this that create cyclic wars. Rice is just parrotting proapagnda terms like a mindless moron or robot.
And come on, Rice is a Russian expert. She spent all her time learning the Russian language and Russian culture. What does she know about the Arab world or the Middle East. She shows nothing!
She got the job because Bush needed a token black cabinet member. She is an apparatchik and a mindless hack. She doesn’t know anything about diplomacy. Who does she think she is kidding?
When the US bombed Belgrade with Cruise Missiles in 1999 and destroyed hospitals and nursery homes and power grids, that was OK. Rice is such a brainless cretan! A Soviet expert when there is no Soviet Union. What a joke she is.
And what happened to the war on terrorism, Condoleezza? Seems like you forgot about something.
And what about the one million Muslims killed in Iraq? What about them? Remember them? Shouldn’t you be prosecuted for genocide?
A Nationalist
February 23rd, 2008 at 9:55 am
Serbs are being labelled by US propaganda as “nationalists”.
But it is the US where we worship a flag. Every house in the US has to have a flag, at every sporting event we have to salute and bow down to the same flag. We have to worship a flag. We have to pledge allegiance to the NATION every morning.
And what is a flag? It is a symbol of the NATION. The US is the most nationalistic NATION that has ever existed. It is a peculiarly US disease, nationalism. The US is the exceptional NATION, the indespensable NATION, the NATION chosen and blessed by God, etc. Come on, who needs this STATIST claptrap.
The US is the most STATIST NATION that has even existed. Ever since Abraham Lincoln forged a single, centralized NATION by preventing the independence of the Confederate States of America, nationalism has dominated US life.
The US is a NATION centrally administered from Washington, DC. There is always a tension between centralism and local rule. We saw this in Waco where US troops just went into Texas and murdered over 100 US civilains.
US nationalism is embedded in everything from the Super Bowl to the World Series. We saw how during the Super Bowl Thomas Jefferson’s Declaration of Independence was used. In baseball games, we used to sing Take Me Out to the Ballgame. Now we sing the nationalist God Bless America. Come on, all this nationalism is a mental disease and a psychosis. But then to have the gall to label Serbs “nationalists” is insane.
The US is a STATIST NATION where STATISM is worshipped. The US is the most nationalist NATION that has ever existed. The US is a NATION empowered or created by God, we are told. And then the US is the one creating bogus and phony NATIONS by criminal means outside of international law and the UN Charter. What hypocrisy! What a hoot. I am busting a gut laughing. (I am waving a US flag as well!)