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		<title>By: Tom Shelly</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02/23/mccains-other-war-frauds/#comment-140388</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Shelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 00:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"""""""but the funniest part was where you cite an overtly racist website to support your view that the legal system isn’t biased against black people."""""""""

No, he pointed you to a 'racist' web site that has links to sources such as the DOJ, FBI and victim's rights groups who unbiasedly collect data. Just because something is reprinted on a web site that you disagree with, doesn't automatically make it incorrect. There is no bias in the enforcement and sentencing of the law. In fact, whites are sentenced more harshly than blacks (because more is expected from them?). As the owner/operator of the web site that you consider 'racist', I openly challenge you to go there and prove just ONE thing or ONE fact presented therein to be incorrect or even come up with an argument that hasn't already been answered. It's been over 12 years and I've issued this challenge hundreds of times and it still stands. I'll be waiting. My email is at the site:   

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;"&#8221;"&#8221;"but the funniest part was where you cite an overtly racist website to support your view that the legal system isn’t biased against black people.&#8221;"&#8221;"&#8221;"&#8221;"&#8221;</p>
<p>No, he pointed you to a &#8216;racist&#8217; web site that has links to sources such as the DOJ, FBI and victim&#8217;s rights groups who unbiasedly collect data. Just because something is reprinted on a web site that you disagree with, doesn&#8217;t automatically make it incorrect. There is no bias in the enforcement and sentencing of the law. In fact, whites are sentenced more harshly than blacks (because more is expected from them?). As the owner/operator of the web site that you consider &#8216;racist&#8217;, I openly challenge you to go there and prove just ONE thing or ONE fact presented therein to be incorrect or even come up with an argument that hasn&#8217;t already been answered. It&#8217;s been over 12 years and I&#8217;ve issued this challenge hundreds of times and it still stands. I&#8217;ll be waiting. My email is at the site:   </p>
<p>niggermania.com/tom/</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02/23/mccains-other-war-frauds/#comment-133550</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a paleo-conservative, and I am for Nader.  I can't trust O-Bomb-a on foreign policy (though he is a dman sight better than Hilary).  And the paleo side of me just can't trust an American presidency to a guy with such a chaotic upbringing and dearth of experience. McCain, OTH, is out of the question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a paleo-conservative, and I am for Nader.  I can&#8217;t trust O-Bomb-a on foreign policy (though he is a dman sight better than Hilary).  And the paleo side of me just can&#8217;t trust an American presidency to a guy with such a chaotic upbringing and dearth of experience. McCain, OTH, is out of the question.</p>
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		<title>By: Weston</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02/23/mccains-other-war-frauds/#comment-132816</link>
		<dc:creator>Weston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, still funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, still funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Jhoffa_</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02/23/mccains-other-war-frauds/#comment-132638</link>
		<dc:creator>Jhoffa_</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"...the funniest part was where you cite an overtly racist website to support your view that the legal system isn’t biased against black people."

No, that's not the funniest part.. 

The funniest part is that the statistics are compiled from other sources, most notably the USDOJ. The website I linked just happens to have them all conveniently located.

Word of advice..  Worry about getting yourself to that restroom?  

I'll be just fine, thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;the funniest part was where you cite an overtly racist website to support your view that the legal system isn’t biased against black people.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, that&#8217;s not the funniest part.. </p>
<p>The funniest part is that the statistics are compiled from other sources, most notably the USDOJ. The website I linked just happens to have them all conveniently located.</p>
<p>Word of advice..  Worry about getting yourself to that restroom?  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be just fine, thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Weston</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02/23/mccains-other-war-frauds/#comment-132509</link>
		<dc:creator>Weston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 03:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's... wow.  That's just hilarious!  I mean, your unwarranted spitefulness is sad and pathetic and all that, but the funniest part was where you cite an overtly racist website to support your view that the legal system isn't biased against black people. "N-gg-r Mania?"  SERIOUSLY?  What kind of wanker do you have to be to even read that, let alone quote it to other people?

You next move is to say: "B-b-b-but you didn't respond to my very reasonable points!"  Much as I despise your position, I'd be perfectly willing to argue with you--and rest assured, I would have won--had you done so in a civil tone and avoided references that make use of racial slurs.  But frankly, I don't think you, personally, are worthy of anything but contempt.  Why help you to the men's room after you've already wet yourself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s&#8230; wow.  That&#8217;s just hilarious!  I mean, your unwarranted spitefulness is sad and pathetic and all that, but the funniest part was where you cite an overtly racist website to support your view that the legal system isn&#8217;t biased against black people. &#8220;N-gg-r Mania?&#8221;  SERIOUSLY?  What kind of wanker do you have to be to even read that, let alone quote it to other people?</p>
<p>You next move is to say: &#8220;B-b-b-but you didn&#8217;t respond to my very reasonable points!&#8221;  Much as I despise your position, I&#8217;d be perfectly willing to argue with you&#8211;and rest assured, I would have won&#8211;had you done so in a civil tone and avoided references that make use of racial slurs.  But frankly, I don&#8217;t think you, personally, are worthy of anything but contempt.  Why help you to the men&#8217;s room after you&#8217;ve already wet yourself?</p>
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		<title>By: Jhoffa_</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02/23/mccains-other-war-frauds/#comment-132479</link>
		<dc:creator>Jhoffa_</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As to the statistics..  Go and educate yourself. 

http://niggermania.com/tom/niggerarguments/niggerargumentstext.htm

There's no bias, Blacks just commit too much damn crime. 

Half non-white males in the US will be charged with a felony at some point in their lives. 

"blacks typically suffer stiffer penalties for committing the same crimes as whites–i.e., whites get off easier. That’s bias"

McCain's wife is bias. 

Getting hammered for walking in to court with a string of priors as long as your arm, a lousy attitude, charged with heinous crime is justice. 

You need to get your head out of your rump and read a little..   Stop making excuses and whining like a little girl. 

The only racial "bias" blacks have to worry about is the racial bias they love..  It's called Affirmative Action.

You know, that's when jobs are given to people who don't deserve them. 

Stop whining. Grow up. Read something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to the statistics..  Go and educate yourself. </p>
<p><a href="http://niggermania.com/tom/niggerarguments/niggerargumentstext.htm" rel="nofollow">http://niggermania.com/tom/niggerarguments/niggerargumentstext.htm</a></p>
<p>There&#8217;s no bias, Blacks just commit too much damn crime. </p>
<p>Half non-white males in the US will be charged with a felony at some point in their lives. </p>
<p>&#8220;blacks typically suffer stiffer penalties for committing the same crimes as whites–i.e., whites get off easier. That’s bias&#8221;</p>
<p>McCain&#8217;s wife is bias. </p>
<p>Getting hammered for walking in to court with a string of priors as long as your arm, a lousy attitude, charged with heinous crime is justice. </p>
<p>You need to get your head out of your rump and read a little..   Stop making excuses and whining like a little girl. </p>
<p>The only racial &#8220;bias&#8221; blacks have to worry about is the racial bias they love..  It&#8217;s called Affirmative Action.</p>
<p>You know, that&#8217;s when jobs are given to people who don&#8217;t deserve them. </p>
<p>Stop whining. Grow up. Read something.</p>
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		<title>By: Weston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, that's like, deep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that&#8217;s like, deep.</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Costa</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02/23/mccains-other-war-frauds/#comment-132365</link>
		<dc:creator>Eugene Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul is admirably antiwar, but on the rest, if not a liar, certainly naive.

I have been an admirer of Paul as a Congressman for long years.

My present problem with him involves impeachment.

Kucinich, who was way ahead of the curve structurally, moved to have Cheney impeached.

Paul first opposed the motion, and is now tepidly supporting its storage in the Judiciary Committee, as I understand it.

In fact, were Paul a serious Constitutionalist and a man of consistent principle, would he not now be screaming for impeachment of the criminals in office?

It is in fact the sworn oath and duty of Congressmen to uphold and protect the Constitution.

Where is Paul in fulfilling that oath?

That he now says he will remain in the Republican party, come what may, is the straw that breaks the camel's back.

The naivety of Paul's "self-ownership" ideas is matched only by the naivety of those supporters of his that think a moral or ethical man as new American King will solve the present Constitutional crisis.

Historically this is old hat. A passionate worshipper of the old Republic, like the Roman emperor Claudius, for example, could not lead, as emperor, the senate and people to reasserting itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul is admirably antiwar, but on the rest, if not a liar, certainly naive.</p>
<p>I have been an admirer of Paul as a Congressman for long years.</p>
<p>My present problem with him involves impeachment.</p>
<p>Kucinich, who was way ahead of the curve structurally, moved to have Cheney impeached.</p>
<p>Paul first opposed the motion, and is now tepidly supporting its storage in the Judiciary Committee, as I understand it.</p>
<p>In fact, were Paul a serious Constitutionalist and a man of consistent principle, would he not now be screaming for impeachment of the criminals in office?</p>
<p>It is in fact the sworn oath and duty of Congressmen to uphold and protect the Constitution.</p>
<p>Where is Paul in fulfilling that oath?</p>
<p>That he now says he will remain in the Republican party, come what may, is the straw that breaks the camel&#8217;s back.</p>
<p>The naivety of Paul&#8217;s &#8220;self-ownership&#8221; ideas is matched only by the naivety of those supporters of his that think a moral or ethical man as new American King will solve the present Constitutional crisis.</p>
<p>Historically this is old hat. A passionate worshipper of the old Republic, like the Roman emperor Claudius, for example, could not lead, as emperor, the senate and people to reasserting itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Wildey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wildey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first priority for anybody taking the oath of office be that he/she not be a liar. We would know where they stood. That would eliminate everbody accept Ron Paul. Now that we've established who the liars are, do you really think it is possble to turn this country around?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first priority for anybody taking the oath of office be that he/she not be a liar. We would know where they stood. That would eliminate everbody accept Ron Paul. Now that we&#8217;ve established who the liars are, do you really think it is possble to turn this country around?</p>
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		<title>By: DisenfranchisedPsycho</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/02/23/mccains-other-war-frauds/#comment-132343</link>
		<dc:creator>DisenfranchisedPsycho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 18:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"There is no law, there is only power"

-Unknown</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is no law, there is only power&#8221;</p>
<p>-Unknown</p>
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		<title>By: Weston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the record, no, I didn't mean just black people--legal discrimination affects more people than blacks.  But whatever the relative frequency of crime between blacks and whites (and I don't think your statistics are right either), blacks typically suffer stiffer penalties for committing the same crimes as whites--i.e., whites get off easier.  That's bias, and it isn't ridiculous.  In fact, it's exactly analogous to what you, me, and everyone else in here finds appalling about Mrs. McCain's special treatment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, no, I didn&#8217;t mean just black people&#8211;legal discrimination affects more people than blacks.  But whatever the relative frequency of crime between blacks and whites (and I don&#8217;t think your statistics are right either), blacks typically suffer stiffer penalties for committing the same crimes as whites&#8211;i.e., whites get off easier.  That&#8217;s bias, and it isn&#8217;t ridiculous.  In fact, it&#8217;s exactly analogous to what you, me, and everyone else in here finds appalling about Mrs. McCain&#8217;s special treatment.</p>
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		<title>By: richard vajs</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard vajs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This race is getting too cozy. Looks like we are going to have McCain-Obama as the candidates, which means that all of the issues which should be raised won't be. No discussion about this phoney "war on Terror", our looming bankruptcy, our stupid Israel-first foreign policy, our crumbling infra-structure, our bloated health care insurance industry, or anything of real importance. Our media wants to make this a beauty contest between two candidates both sporting a thin veil of promised change over business-as-usual already paid for by the special interests. Much to do about nothing-shit like who honors the flag and our troops the most. So, I am really glad that Ralph Nader wants to jump in the race (as Ron Paul doesn't) as a third party candidate. He has the qualities I like - he has been on the track a long time, he has no time for "nicey-nice", and he will go for the jugular veins. If allowed to speak, he will rip the special interests a new one over the looting of our national wealth. We might hear something about forbidden topics like national health care, need for an independent  Palestine, the size and cost of our military industrial complex, etc. He may be too socialistic for my Libertarian taste, but I crave to hear the equivalent of a long, loud fart at this planned garden party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This race is getting too cozy. Looks like we are going to have McCain-Obama as the candidates, which means that all of the issues which should be raised won&#8217;t be. No discussion about this phoney &#8220;war on Terror&#8221;, our looming bankruptcy, our stupid Israel-first foreign policy, our crumbling infra-structure, our bloated health care insurance industry, or anything of real importance. Our media wants to make this a beauty contest between two candidates both sporting a thin veil of promised change over business-as-usual already paid for by the special interests. Much to do about nothing-shit like who honors the flag and our troops the most. So, I am really glad that Ralph Nader wants to jump in the race (as Ron Paul doesn&#8217;t) as a third party candidate. He has the qualities I like - he has been on the track a long time, he has no time for &#8220;nicey-nice&#8221;, and he will go for the jugular veins. If allowed to speak, he will rip the special interests a new one over the looting of our national wealth. We might hear something about forbidden topics like national health care, need for an independent  Palestine, the size and cost of our military industrial complex, etc. He may be too socialistic for my Libertarian taste, but I crave to hear the equivalent of a long, loud fart at this planned garden party.</p>
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