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	<pubDate>Tue,  2 Dec 2008 09:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Vassili</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/01/madness/#comment-139056</link>
		<dc:creator>Vassili</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I refuse to buy the theory about "Zionist fanatics", as well as "Muslim fanatics" for a balance. The true "fanatics" of this worls are the US elite, that firmly decided to inherit the karma of Rome, UK Empire and 3rd Reich.

They are (and Bush is the tip of the iceberg) true, genuine madmans. The only thing that can stop them - is ABUNDANT nucler weapons. Had I been the President of Russia, I've used all available weapon grade plutonium to build as much missiles as possible and cancelled all nuclear weapon related treaties. Supposedely there is enough for 14,000 charges. That MAY slow madmans a little.

And of course provided nuclear weapons to Iran. Because nuclear weapon is VERY efficient against Navy. World would be a much safer place with 100 nuclear charges given to Iran. I believe they would use it wisely. I.e against US Army and not Israel, since I think they do understand who is the real madman of this Planet.

But had I been Tim R, I would think more about the very unpleasant fact, that the country that used to be some sort of "New World" for the humankind have turned into the worst Empire eagerly bringing World to the World War III without much hesitation - and with indifference of american population - are they really human beings, or sheep, animals? Most of the problem stems from the 3rd world migration to the US over last 100 years. Although... Europe is knows for constant bloody wars and agression against Russia. So - US being the combination of 3rd World sheep w/o human dignity, and patenly agressive elite from Europe... very bad mixture, prone to set this World on fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I refuse to buy the theory about &#8220;Zionist fanatics&#8221;, as well as &#8220;Muslim fanatics&#8221; for a balance. The true &#8220;fanatics&#8221; of this worls are the US elite, that firmly decided to inherit the karma of Rome, UK Empire and 3rd Reich.</p>
<p>They are (and Bush is the tip of the iceberg) true, genuine madmans. The only thing that can stop them - is ABUNDANT nucler weapons. Had I been the President of Russia, I&#8217;ve used all available weapon grade plutonium to build as much missiles as possible and cancelled all nuclear weapon related treaties. Supposedely there is enough for 14,000 charges. That MAY slow madmans a little.</p>
<p>And of course provided nuclear weapons to Iran. Because nuclear weapon is VERY efficient against Navy. World would be a much safer place with 100 nuclear charges given to Iran. I believe they would use it wisely. I.e against US Army and not Israel, since I think they do understand who is the real madman of this Planet.</p>
<p>But had I been Tim R, I would think more about the very unpleasant fact, that the country that used to be some sort of &#8220;New World&#8221; for the humankind have turned into the worst Empire eagerly bringing World to the World War III without much hesitation - and with indifference of american population - are they really human beings, or sheep, animals? Most of the problem stems from the 3rd world migration to the US over last 100 years. Although&#8230; Europe is knows for constant bloody wars and agression against Russia. So - US being the combination of 3rd World sheep w/o human dignity, and patenly agressive elite from Europe&#8230; very bad mixture, prone to set this World on fire.</p>
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		<title>By: lloyd</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/01/madness/#comment-138245</link>
		<dc:creator>lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 13:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe you credit Von Neumann for Nash's fundamental math acheivement - see from MacTutor History of Math:

http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Biographies/Nash.html

Otherwise and esp re Kissinger, our views are very similar.

Best rgrds,
Lloyd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe you credit Von Neumann for Nash&#8217;s fundamental math acheivement - see from MacTutor History of Math:</p>
<p><a href="http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Biographies/Nash.html" rel="nofollow">http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Biographies/Nash.html</a></p>
<p>Otherwise and esp re Kissinger, our views are very similar.</p>
<p>Best rgrds,<br />
Lloyd</p>
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		<title>By: lloyd</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/01/madness/#comment-138238</link>
		<dc:creator>lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 13:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ole!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ole!</p>
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		<title>By: lloyd</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/01/madness/#comment-138237</link>
		<dc:creator>lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 13:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, except I believe John Nash is the only GREAT mathematician who's ever stood at that podium, before or after 1967.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, except I believe John Nash is the only GREAT mathematician who&#8217;s ever stood at that podium, before or after 1967.</p>
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		<title>By: lloyd</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/01/madness/#comment-138236</link>
		<dc:creator>lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 13:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You said a mouthful, Eugene, thank you for expressing it better than I ever have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said a mouthful, Eugene, thank you for expressing it better than I ever have.</p>
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		<title>By: lloyd</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/01/madness/#comment-138022</link>
		<dc:creator>lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 01:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has been an interesting and informative thread, for me.  Six months ago I had bookmarked a journal called something like "International Security" and talk about madman -- or maybe I should just say "empire" -- thinking!  

Also, in 1975 I had a letter published which said I believed that during the Mayaguez Incident the American government was  on the brink of launching nukes against Vietnam, and possibly against China.  It was only a feeling then, but I wonder if any of you commenters to this thread have specific info one way or the other regarding my feeling?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has been an interesting and informative thread, for me.  Six months ago I had bookmarked a journal called something like &#8220;International Security&#8221; and talk about madman &#8212; or maybe I should just say &#8220;empire&#8221; &#8212; thinking!  </p>
<p>Also, in 1975 I had a letter published which said I believed that during the Mayaguez Incident the American government was  on the brink of launching nukes against Vietnam, and possibly against China.  It was only a feeling then, but I wonder if any of you commenters to this thread have specific info one way or the other regarding my feeling?</p>
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		<title>By: lloyd</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/01/madness/#comment-138016</link>
		<dc:creator>lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 00:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds pretty solid to me.  I've recently been tasked for being a Harvard college grad, despite calling for der prof Kissinger's removal, and now, probably despite Sam Powers' surprising commitment to the truth. Thanx, Eugene Costa, for your fine perspective on this.  Now I want to resume my readings of this article's very long thread, for which -- as its first commentator -- I'm quietly proud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds pretty solid to me.  I&#8217;ve recently been tasked for being a Harvard college grad, despite calling for der prof Kissinger&#8217;s removal, and now, probably despite Sam Powers&#8217; surprising commitment to the truth. Thanx, Eugene Costa, for your fine perspective on this.  Now I want to resume my readings of this article&#8217;s very long thread, for which &#8212; as its first commentator &#8212; I&#8217;m quietly proud.</p>
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		<title>By: SanFernandoCurt</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/01/madness/#comment-136378</link>
		<dc:creator>SanFernandoCurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the extent we can call any American president "even-handed" in approaching Israel, Nixon was that. No president is going to insist that Israel follow policies that 1) - threaten their regional military hegemony, or, 2) - improve the status of Palestineans to something better than serfdom. The last American President to block a major scheme by the Israelis was Eisenhower, during the Suez Crisis of 1956.

At least, Nixon jawboned with Sadat and others in the region. Perhaps more cordial relations with Arab states could have improved the lot the Palestineans simply by taking martial pressure off Israel to secure its borders. Who knows? Anything would be better than today.

The last 20 years have brought no improvements at all. Reagan could barely be bothered with the Middle East; after all, by the 1980s, we had Egypt in our hip pocket - doling out huge aid packages to Cairo for faking a neighborly grin. And compare Nixon to Bush, who barely conceals his contempt for the Arab world. "Gaza? What Gaza?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the extent we can call any American president &#8220;even-handed&#8221; in approaching Israel, Nixon was that. No president is going to insist that Israel follow policies that 1) - threaten their regional military hegemony, or, 2) - improve the status of Palestineans to something better than serfdom. The last American President to block a major scheme by the Israelis was Eisenhower, during the Suez Crisis of 1956.</p>
<p>At least, Nixon jawboned with Sadat and others in the region. Perhaps more cordial relations with Arab states could have improved the lot the Palestineans simply by taking martial pressure off Israel to secure its borders. Who knows? Anything would be better than today.</p>
<p>The last 20 years have brought no improvements at all. Reagan could barely be bothered with the Middle East; after all, by the 1980s, we had Egypt in our hip pocket - doling out huge aid packages to Cairo for faking a neighborly grin. And compare Nixon to Bush, who barely conceals his contempt for the Arab world. &#8220;Gaza? What Gaza?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Stanley Laham</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/01/madness/#comment-136161</link>
		<dc:creator>Stanley Laham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 05:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not so sure about a Nixon even-handedness in the Middle East. In 1973, when Egypt was initially winning the war in the Sinai, Nixon started the greatest weapon give away since WWII. A continuous air bridge kept re-supplying the Israelis with tanks, warplanes and even pilots according to some. It came to the point where NATO was being so depleted to quickly get weapons to the Israelis, that the generals in charge protested. By preventing the Egyptians and the Syrians from regaining their lost territories then, we have what we have now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not so sure about a Nixon even-handedness in the Middle East. In 1973, when Egypt was initially winning the war in the Sinai, Nixon started the greatest weapon give away since WWII. A continuous air bridge kept re-supplying the Israelis with tanks, warplanes and even pilots according to some. It came to the point where NATO was being so depleted to quickly get weapons to the Israelis, that the generals in charge protested. By preventing the Egyptians and the Syrians from regaining their lost territories then, we have what we have now.</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Costa</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/01/madness/#comment-135945</link>
		<dc:creator>Eugene Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know if it is worth the time or effort to reflect upon at length, but  in retrospect it strikes me that the real Beserker was not Nixon but Kissinger.

Nixon definitely had emotional problems, and Kissinger knew how to exploit them, but he was also capable of rational analysis.

True enough the poor man was trained as a lawyer, but his exhaustive outlines on yellow pads often showed a capable mind at work.

So there may be less inconsistency in what you say than it seems at first sight.

Also Nixon, whatever his shortcomings, was determined to end the War in Vietnam, though his demand for saving face, which both Kissinger and the Chinese Communists exploited, may have caused more lasting trouble than has yet been widely appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if it is worth the time or effort to reflect upon at length, but  in retrospect it strikes me that the real Beserker was not Nixon but Kissinger.</p>
<p>Nixon definitely had emotional problems, and Kissinger knew how to exploit them, but he was also capable of rational analysis.</p>
<p>True enough the poor man was trained as a lawyer, but his exhaustive outlines on yellow pads often showed a capable mind at work.</p>
<p>So there may be less inconsistency in what you say than it seems at first sight.</p>
<p>Also Nixon, whatever his shortcomings, was determined to end the War in Vietnam, though his demand for saving face, which both Kissinger and the Chinese Communists exploited, may have caused more lasting trouble than has yet been widely appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: SanFernandoCurt</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/01/madness/#comment-135938</link>
		<dc:creator>SanFernandoCurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dead a dozen-plus years and still getting kicked around! Wooeee! Didn’t now the Berserker in Chief side of his personality was all digits and squiggles. Go figure! But regardless of the cynical/clinical brutality of his methods (Christmas bombing, anyone?), Nixon initiated the first real and productive nuclear arms reduction talks with the Soviets and brought this country’s relationship with them to a more appropriate, “realistic” level. However, he applied this cold-eyed approach to Mideast horse-trading, and achieved tangible results that eventually led to the Carter era’s Camp David accords; this meant occasionally saying no to Israel and its American abettors, so he will always get the Haman treatment from the Likudies, foreign and domestic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dead a dozen-plus years and still getting kicked around! Wooeee! Didn’t now the Berserker in Chief side of his personality was all digits and squiggles. Go figure! But regardless of the cynical/clinical brutality of his methods (Christmas bombing, anyone?), Nixon initiated the first real and productive nuclear arms reduction talks with the Soviets and brought this country’s relationship with them to a more appropriate, “realistic” level. However, he applied this cold-eyed approach to Mideast horse-trading, and achieved tangible results that eventually led to the Carter era’s Camp David accords; this meant occasionally saying no to Israel and its American abettors, so he will always get the Haman treatment from the Likudies, foreign and domestic.</p>
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		<title>By: Allan</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/01/madness/#comment-135868</link>
		<dc:creator>Allan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 12:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone remember when Rumsfeld was characterized as "the crazy grandfather, liable to do anything," (paraphrased) at the start of the Iraq invasion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone remember when Rumsfeld was characterized as &#8220;the crazy grandfather, liable to do anything,&#8221; (paraphrased) at the start of the Iraq invasion?</p>
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