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When will our pathetic Nation quit turning their back on God and
understand that this man is ‘A Muslim’….First, Last and always….and
we are AT WAR with the Muslim Nation, whether our bleeding-heart,
secular, Liberal friends believe it or not. This man fits every
description from the Bible of the ‘Anti-Christ’!
Who is Barack Obama?

Probable U. S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born in
Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black MUSLIM from
Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHEIST from Wichita ,
Kansas.

Obama’s parents met at the University of Hawaii.

When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. His father returned
to Kenya. His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from
Indonesia.

When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia. Obama
attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta. He also spent two years in a
Catholic school.

Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is
quick to point out that, ‘He was once a Muslim, but that he also
attended Catholic school.’

Obama’s political handlers are attempting to make it appear that that he
is not a radical.

Obama’s introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this
influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned
to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct
influence over his son’s education.

Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama’s mother, Ann Dunham,
introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school
in Jakarta.

Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim
terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world. Since it
is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking major public
office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined the United
Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background. ALSO,
keep in mind that when he was sworn into office he DID NOT USE THE HOLY BIBLE, INSTEAD HE SWORE HIS OATH UPON THE KORAN.. THE MUSLIM BIBLE!!

Barack Hussein Obama will NOT recite the Pledge of Allegiance nor will
he show any reverence for our flag. While others place their hands over
their hearts, Obama TURNS HIS BACK to the flag and slouches. Do you want
someone like this as your PRESIDENT?

Let us all remain alert concerning Obama’s expected presidential
candidacy.

The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside
out, ONLY IF WE LET THEM!! And know that this something that no American wants after what happened on our homeland on 9/11. We Americans bleed RED, WHITE and BLUE!
The Koran speaks of the Muslim nation awakening a mighty Eagle………. Americans hold the Bald Eagle as one of our most treasured figures… so maybe they have awoke the WRONG EAGLE!

Oil was not the the moving force, though in a subsidiary sense it was the bait, and British interests also played a part. In the event, however, oil proved a mirage in both wars.

Iraq was not the enemy of the United States in any way, though a problem to both Israel and Saudi Arabia.

Interesting enough, the case can be made that Baathist and secular Iraq, whether under Hussein or someone else, and even with a few nuclear weapons that could not be used, was less a threat to Israel than what has now developed.

But that is by the way for the moment.

Iran is no threat to the United States now. And attacking Iran, or allowing Israel to attack Iran with American approval, will quickly convert disaster into catastrophe.

Structurally this is not as new a pattrn as it seems, and the influence of Zionism and the Israel lobby is at least in part only the manifestation of a deeper problem.

An aspect of the pattern is seen in the late Roman Republic, and is treated in detail by a certain Christian Meier in his brilliant Res Publica Amissa, which I recall may now be available English translation.

The key is understanding how a patron-client relationship, extended to foreign policy, has disastrous consequences for a Republic.

This will be hard going for those whose interest is strictly contemporary political analysis, but it is well worth the effort for those who have the bent.

It is exactly thinking at this deeper and more difficult structural level, and not just economically or socially but institutionally and politically, that is called for if the United States is going to survive very much longer.

To be very frank, I have come to the point that, for me, a United States without liberty and the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights has no interest or persuasivess.

Lawless countries where one can live well are a dime a dozen.

Having lived through the Vietnam years and watched the country on the edge of destroying itself, to stop just at the brink, there is, at this much later date, not enough Candide in me to see the present involvement of the US in the Middle East, which on all counts is worse than Vietnam and Korea, as anything but a real determination by the American people to destroy themselves, their liberty, and their Constitution, which Constitution, with some literature and few outstanding geniuses like Charles Sanders Peirce, is about the only thing a later humanity will ever find worthy of remembering about this sad, blundering, murderous, incompetent, greedy, and seemingly suicidal proto-empire.

Just some thoughts to ponder…those who support the war effort should think about what it gains us, and whether the costs (human, financial, moral, etc.) benefit US citizens in the long run. (I would argue, they do not.) The points about “supporting the troops” are ridiculous: most of us empathize with their situation. For the Constitutional scholars, a good number of the public don’t even know who their senator or representative is. (That’s a shame. I say, re-sell the Constitutional arguments, but don’t assume people know anything about their genesis.) For the military tacticians here, we aren’t talking about trench warfare (WWI) and Blitzkriegs and aerial bombardments of infrastructure (WWII) or even Vietnamese-style counterinsurgency. The Iraq-Afghanistan scenario is political and economic warfare–orchestrated by the Internet, suicide bombings, and the mass-messaging of mainstream media against the populaces of both the “enemy” and the US citizenry. It is people like Rove who are meddling in affairs well above their intellectual capacity to comprehend that are sucking the US into a black hole.

This election is NOT about the politicians and the message-makers who are fast becoming irrelevant, but about the people’s ability to unify around the critical problems facing this country. We should stop thinking about the “global agenda,” “world peace,” nation-building, and so forth, and desist from nitpicking over Candidate X or Y. We should start thinking about holding officials accountable for the solvency and security of the US. We should go to the voting booths, for sure, but also message our representatives, talk to our neighbors and work associates, and be more critical of the “mainstream messaging.” Critical thinking about the ideas, versus the politicians, is most important.

Potentially. They furnish grassroots forces with needed information and erode the legitimacy of dominant institutions in society.

I for one support our troops and i honestly support this war. You can say what you want it doesnt really matter.

Then you admit that your support for the war has no rational basis? Way to secure a rhetorical defeat for yourself.

The fact remains that all you are doing is putting words on a web site. The true action is being taken as we all type but men and women we will probablly never meet.

Try googling “antiwar demonstration”.

As for Tim R. i think he is the only one on here that isnt sugar coating anything…

Except perhaps America’s atrocious imperial record and Israel’s innumerable depredations.

The one you obviously dont read!

Passage, chapter, book? Of course, not everyone here is Christian, so biblical quotations have limited appeal. That, and the fact that the Bible is a collection of books compiled, redacted, and expunged over three thousand years (and thus cannot be treated as divine writ even if it is so inspired), the verity of Christian theism is not a given, and the book itself is subject to differing interpretations.

Whatever Christ would support, I’m pretty sure it’s not an murderous unnecessary war aimed at securing oil profits and rationalized by a series of falsifications. “Thou shalt not lie”, anyone?

And which countries might these be?

Maybe its just venting that you all do because you are so jealous and want to be and American also. I cant blame you… Everyone tends to hate on the power that they know their country will never have. We love a good fight so bring it on!

Jealous? The only war you’ve won since world war two (the Soviet contribution to which is never recognized) was the Gulf War, which involved America’s financial resources against a pitiful little country with the sole aim of expelling them from Kuwait and killing as many civilians as possible. You couldn’t take Vietnam, you couldn’t take Korea, and you can’t take Iraq- despite your vaunted military technology and your martial culture, America proves to be little more than the political equivalent of a cowardly bully when confronted with anything more formidable than a handful of armed locals. What about a brutal, quasi-authoritarian empire drowning in its own debt is there to be jealous of? Some of the highest poverty rates in the first world? Crime rates unequalled in the OECD? Press freedom right up there with such luminaries as Nicaragua and Togo? Or is military might all there is to it? In that case, seeing as the country will be bankrupt and begging China for case in ten or twenty years, your claim to “envy” is about to evaporate.

You sir are very naive.