Comments on: Ron Paul Easily Reelected to Congress http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/04/ron-paul-easily-reelected-to-congress/ Wed, 8 Oct 2008 03:27:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Bill K. http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/04/ron-paul-easily-reelected-to-congress/#comment-139099 Bill K. Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:56:45 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/04/ron-paul-easily-reelected-to-congress/#comment-139099 Yeah that's great. McCain still beat him in his home state in the Primaries. If he can't even win his home state then he can forget about the Presidency.(And I wish he tried harder and concentrated less on Congress because that is a lost cause anyway, considering the vast majority on capitol hill are self-serving corrupt free-loaders who rubber stamp everything that comes their way. Yeah that’s great. McCain still beat him in his home state in the Primaries. If he can’t even win his home state then he can forget about the Presidency.(And I wish he tried harder and concentrated less on Congress because that is a lost cause anyway, considering the vast majority on capitol hill are self-serving corrupt free-loaders who rubber stamp everything that comes their way.

]]> By: phil http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/04/ron-paul-easily-reelected-to-congress/#comment-137744 phil Fri, 07 Mar 2008 12:54:59 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/04/ron-paul-easily-reelected-to-congress/#comment-137744 John At least me and my family try. And exactly what are you doing besides making a fool of yourself here in this blog? Nothing, I am sure. And Ron Paul is a hero. You are a zero. John

At least me and my family try.

And exactly what are you doing besides making a fool of yourself here in this blog? Nothing, I am sure.

And Ron Paul is a hero. You are a zero.

]]> By: John Lowell http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/04/ron-paul-easily-reelected-to-congress/#comment-137426 John Lowell Thu, 06 Mar 2008 18:36:30 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/04/ron-paul-easily-reelected-to-congress/#comment-137426 Hi Brad guy! Gottcha in a vise, don't I? I ring the bell, you salivate. Abject slavery I'd call it. Sure you want to go on embarrassing yourself like this? I mean even a politician deserves better than that. Its entirely up to you, little fella. Hi Brad guy! Gottcha in a vise, don’t I? I ring the bell, you salivate. Abject slavery I’d call it. Sure you want to go on embarrassing yourself like this? I mean even a politician deserves better than that. Its entirely up to you, little fella.

]]> By: John Lowell http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/04/ron-paul-easily-reelected-to-congress/#comment-137420 John Lowell Thu, 06 Mar 2008 18:26:30 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/04/ron-paul-easily-reelected-to-congress/#comment-137420 With all personal respect, Eugene, to persist in employing the methodology of the system in an attempt to correct it, or even to impart a sense of fairness to it, obscures the fundamental fact of its utter depravity. I'd suggest when they are realistic as-long-as-it-takes mass street demonstrations as in Ukraine in 2006 and I'd follow them with a series of public show trials and a second constitutional convention. Given the current economic climate we may not be long in having such remedies at hand. To misplace but not to misapply a comment by A. Hitler in 1941 concerning the Soviet Union, at that time one will need "only to kick in the door and the whole rotten structure will come tumbling down." Can we hope? With all personal respect, Eugene, to persist in employing the methodology of the system in an attempt to correct it, or even to impart a sense of fairness to it, obscures the fundamental fact of its utter depravity. I’d suggest when they are realistic as-long-as-it-takes mass street demonstrations as in Ukraine in 2006 and I’d follow them with a series of public show trials and a second constitutional convention. Given the current economic climate we may not be long in having such remedies at hand. To misplace but not to misapply a comment by A. Hitler in 1941 concerning the Soviet Union, at that time one will need “only to kick in the door and the whole rotten structure will come tumbling down.” Can we hope?

]]> By: Brad Smith http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/04/ron-paul-easily-reelected-to-congress/#comment-137380 Brad Smith Thu, 06 Mar 2008 16:30:53 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/04/ron-paul-easily-reelected-to-congress/#comment-137380 Don't even bother commenting on John Lowell he truly is an idiot without a cause. He spouts this same crap over and over again. I have yet to read one thing by him that furthers any debate in any way. John, get a life, get a clue, buy a brain, something, anything, I could go on all day whats the point? Go John Go, a Moron without a clue. Don’t even bother commenting on John Lowell he truly is an idiot without a cause. He spouts this same crap over and over again. I have yet to read one thing by him that furthers any debate in any way.

John, get a life, get a clue, buy a brain, something, anything, I could go on all day whats the point?

Go John Go, a Moron without a clue.

]]> By: Eugene Costa http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/04/ron-paul-easily-reelected-to-congress/#comment-137324 Eugene Costa Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:19:27 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/04/ron-paul-easily-reelected-to-congress/#comment-137324 Constitutionally impeachment is no punishment at all. Nor is it "retrospective" in bent, as a someone who was an attorney and considered himself versed in constitutional law, once tried to tell me. The point is to remove criminals from office, which removal is the only penalty, so that: (1) the crimes do not continue; and (2) the office does not interfere with prosecution nor prosecution with the office. That is clearly why, in the constitutional context, impeachment is exempt from the protections of jury trial and is not subject to judicial review. Structurally, impeaching Cheney at least is in my opinion absolutely necessary for even the remnant of constitutional government to survive, and as far as I am concerned the presidential election, without such impeachment, is trivial. Kucinich was way ahead of the curve here, and chose to start with Cheney for obvious reasons, and not only because one wants Cheney as president even less than one wants Bush. Rather, by getting rid of the Vice President first, the succession through Speaker of the House, and so forth, designed for emergencies, can be circumvented and the next and interim executive chosen by consensus. This is, in effect, the way the near impeachment of Nixon unfolded, with Agnew being removed first, for what looked like, on the surface at least, extraneous offenses. Kudos to Paul for being reelected, but without his serious and vociferous support for Kucinich's impeachment effort, I find his "constitutionalism" very slanted and a bit disingenuous, to say the least. Constitutionally impeachment is no punishment at all. Nor is it “retrospective” in bent, as a someone who was an attorney and considered himself versed in constitutional law, once tried to tell me.

The point is to remove criminals from office, which removal is the only penalty, so that: (1) the crimes do not continue; and (2) the office does not interfere with prosecution nor prosecution with the office.

That is clearly why, in the constitutional context, impeachment is exempt from the protections of jury trial and is not subject to judicial review.

Structurally, impeaching Cheney at least is in my opinion absolutely necessary for even the remnant of constitutional government to survive, and as far as I am concerned the presidential election, without such impeachment, is trivial.

Kucinich was way ahead of the curve here, and chose to start with Cheney for obvious reasons, and not only because one wants Cheney as president even less than one wants Bush.

Rather, by getting rid of the Vice President first, the succession through Speaker of the House, and so forth, designed for emergencies, can be circumvented and the next and interim executive chosen by consensus.

This is, in effect, the way the near impeachment of Nixon unfolded, with Agnew being removed first, for what looked like, on the surface at least, extraneous offenses.

Kudos to Paul for being reelected, but without his serious and vociferous support for Kucinich’s impeachment effort, I find his “constitutionalism” very slanted and a bit disingenuous, to say the least.

]]> By: John Lowell http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/04/ron-paul-easily-reelected-to-congress/#comment-137190 John Lowell Thu, 06 Mar 2008 06:38:05 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/04/ron-paul-easily-reelected-to-congress/#comment-137190 You're sure something else, Carter M, making contributions to the Paul campaign that weren't really "'intended'" as contributions to the Paul campaign. Why that's just remarkable, little fella. With stealth - and language - like yours maybe you can manage to turn your next post into something resembling a disappearing act. And as for impeachment, why you just trot right into that Senate chamber and let them know what oughta be. Make sure those arrogant little "pr#%ks" understand that its CharterM that's doing the talking. That'll fix 'em. You’re sure something else, Carter M, making contributions to the Paul campaign that weren’t really “‘intended’” as contributions to the Paul campaign. Why that’s just remarkable, little fella. With stealth - and language - like yours maybe you can manage to turn your next post into something resembling a disappearing act. And as for impeachment, why you just trot right into that Senate chamber and let them know what oughta be. Make sure those arrogant little “pr#%ks” understand that its CharterM that’s doing the talking. That’ll fix ‘em.

]]> By: Carter M http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/04/ron-paul-easily-reelected-to-congress/#comment-137163 Carter M Thu, 06 Mar 2008 04:42:37 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/04/ron-paul-easily-reelected-to-congress/#comment-137163 John Lowell, how could any arrogant little pr#%k possibly know what I "intended" for my contributions? Speaking of vacuous, how're ya doin'? As for Der Fuerhers Cheney and Bush, impeachment is far too mild a punishment; impeachment, then trial for crimes against humanity, conviction and life in Supermax on 23-hour lockdown. John Lowell, how could any arrogant little pr#%k possibly know what I “intended” for my contributions? Speaking of vacuous, how’re ya doin’? As for Der Fuerhers Cheney and Bush, impeachment is far too mild a punishment; impeachment, then trial for crimes against humanity, conviction and life in Supermax on 23-hour lockdown.

]]> By: peace http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/04/ron-paul-easily-reelected-to-congress/#comment-137138 peace Thu, 06 Mar 2008 03:29:02 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/04/ron-paul-easily-reelected-to-congress/#comment-137138 You are damn right, Eugene Costa, above. You are damn right, Eugene Costa, above.

]]> By: John Lowell http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/04/ron-paul-easily-reelected-to-congress/#comment-137135 John Lowell Thu, 06 Mar 2008 03:25:57 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/04/ron-paul-easily-reelected-to-congress/#comment-137135 "I have been quoted in the newspaper, written commentary on behalf of Ron Paul in a major NJ newspaper and recognized as a Hometown Hero along with my wife for our community service. We are out there fighting in the trenches trying to make a difference." Now those just have to be two of the more stirring testimonies to ones eternal meaning as a human being that I've heard offered in some time, son, that you were quoted in a NJ newspaper and have beem recognized as a Hometown Hero for community service! And what's even more remarkable about them is the humility you bring in reporting them to us. Why I'm sure that on the day the world is consummated, God Himself will plant a great big kiss on your cheek and pin an "Atta Guy" button on your Ron Paul tee shirt. Promise you'll stay right out there fighting in those trenches on our behalf every day, maybe on into the evening if necessary? I mean I simply can't imagine how we'd manage without you. “I have been quoted in the newspaper, written commentary on behalf of Ron Paul in a major NJ newspaper and recognized as a Hometown Hero along with my wife for our community service. We are out there fighting in the trenches trying to make a difference.”

Now those just have to be two of the more stirring testimonies to ones eternal meaning as a human being that I’ve heard offered in some time, son, that you were quoted in a NJ newspaper and have beem recognized as a Hometown Hero for community service! And what’s even more remarkable about them is the humility you bring in reporting them to us. Why I’m sure that on the day the world is consummated, God Himself will plant a great big kiss on your cheek and pin an “Atta Guy” button on your Ron Paul tee shirt.

Promise you’ll stay right out there fighting in those trenches on our behalf every day, maybe on into the evening if necessary? I mean I simply can’t imagine how we’d manage without you.

]]> By: phil http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/04/ron-paul-easily-reelected-to-congress/#comment-137113 phil Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:14:21 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/04/ron-paul-easily-reelected-to-congress/#comment-137113 John Lowell, You sound like you have been eating paint chips with Tim R. What exactly have you done for the cause of freedom and helping this nation? I have been quoted in the newspaper, written commentary on behalf of Ron Paul in a major NJ newspaper and recognized as a Hometown Hero along with my wife for our community service. We are out there fighting in the trenches trying to make a difference. Who are you to judge an honest man and condemn him for trying to make a difference? You couldn't like his boots! You have plenty to say negatively about Ron Paul but noting constructive. Why don't you get a life and do something positive instead of sounding like an old "washer woman". John Lowell,

You sound like you have been eating paint chips with Tim R.

What exactly have you done for the cause of freedom and helping this nation? I have been quoted in the newspaper, written commentary on behalf of Ron Paul in a major NJ newspaper and recognized as a Hometown Hero along with my wife for our community service. We are out there fighting in the trenches trying to make a difference. Who are you to judge an honest man and condemn him for trying to make a difference? You couldn’t like his boots!

You have plenty to say negatively about Ron Paul but noting constructive. Why don’t you get a life and do something positive instead of sounding like an old “washer woman”.

]]> By: Louise http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/04/ron-paul-easily-reelected-to-congress/#comment-136960 Louise Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:53:34 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/04/ron-paul-easily-reelected-to-congress/#comment-136960 Eugene, you are so right. No one is running with anti-corruption as an issue. It's THE issue. All the other problems stem from it. The pond scum is completely taking over! RP has $6M, some of it from me. I believe him but didn't support him to be a groupie! I want to see these issues gain some prominence and provoke some real action. These principled speeches are wonderful and inspiring and all, but need to go beyond the abstract idealism. Impeachment is a wonderful idea. Eugene, you are so right. No one is running with anti-corruption as an issue. It’s THE issue. All the other problems stem from it. The pond scum is completely taking over!

RP has $6M, some of it from me. I believe him but didn’t support him to be a groupie! I want to see these issues gain some prominence and provoke some real action. These principled speeches are wonderful and inspiring and all, but need to go beyond the abstract idealism.
Impeachment is a wonderful idea.

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