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		<title>By: erin</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/05/congress-defends-gaza-assault-404-1/#comment-139333</link>
		<dc:creator>erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one of teh many times Ron Paul is the only NO vote. They call him Dr. No for a reason. Even if you don't agree with the guy on everything he surely is the anti-war candidate and he is very honest and principled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of teh many times Ron Paul is the only NO vote. They call him Dr. No for a reason. Even if you don&#8217;t agree with the guy on everything he surely is the anti-war candidate and he is very honest and principled.</p>
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		<title>By: salem s</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/05/congress-defends-gaza-assault-404-1/#comment-138994</link>
		<dc:creator>salem s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pingback by Devaluing Palestinian Life : Bryan Farrell .com 

.....while deeply regrettable, is not at all morally equivalent to the deliberate targeting of civilian populations as practiced by Hamas and other Gaza-based terrorist groups.” ..

In effect, Congress has given the green light to kill innocent people, so long as it’s not intentional. But as historian Howard Zinn has pointed out, this is really just a false distinction.

If a bomb is deliberately dropped on a house or a vehicle on the grounds that a “suspected terrorist” is inside (note the frequent use of the word suspected as evidence of the uncertainty surrounding targets), the resulting deaths of women and children may not be intentional. But neither are they accidental. The proper description is “inevitable.” So if an action will inevitably kill innocent people, it is as immoral as a deliberate attack on civilians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pingback by Devaluing Palestinian Life : Bryan Farrell .com </p>
<p>&#8230;..while deeply regrettable, is not at all morally equivalent to the deliberate targeting of civilian populations as practiced by Hamas and other Gaza-based terrorist groups.” ..</p>
<p>In effect, Congress has given the green light to kill innocent people, so long as it’s not intentional. But as historian Howard Zinn has pointed out, this is really just a false distinction.</p>
<p>If a bomb is deliberately dropped on a house or a vehicle on the grounds that a “suspected terrorist” is inside (note the frequent use of the word suspected as evidence of the uncertainty surrounding targets), the resulting deaths of women and children may not be intentional. But neither are they accidental. The proper description is “inevitable.” So if an action will inevitably kill innocent people, it is as immoral as a deliberate attack on civilians.</p>
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		<title>By: salem s</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/05/congress-defends-gaza-assault-404-1/#comment-138992</link>
		<dc:creator>salem s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The Five-Day war in Gaza (as a Hamas leader called it) was but another short chapter in the Israeli-Palestinian struggle. This bloody monster is never satisfied; its appetite just grows with the eating.
 
This chapter started with the "targeted liquidation" of five senior militants inside the Gaza Strip. The "response" was a salvo of rockets, and this time not only on Sderot, but also on Ashkelon and Netivot. The "response" to the "response" was the army's incursion and the wholesale killing.
 
The stated aim was, as always, to stop the launching of the rockets. The means: killing a maximum of Palestinians, in order to teach them a lesson. The decision was based on the traditional Israeli concept: hit the civilian population again and again, until it overthrows its leaders. This has been tried hundreds of times and has failed hundreds of times."


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Five-Day war in Gaza (as a Hamas leader called it) was but another short chapter in the Israeli-Palestinian struggle. This bloody monster is never satisfied; its appetite just grows with the eating.</p>
<p>This chapter started with the &#8220;targeted liquidation&#8221; of five senior militants inside the Gaza Strip. The &#8220;response&#8221; was a salvo of rockets, and this time not only on Sderot, but also on Ashkelon and Netivot. The &#8220;response&#8221; to the &#8220;response&#8221; was the army&#8217;s incursion and the wholesale killing.</p>
<p>The stated aim was, as always, to stop the launching of the rockets. The means: killing a maximum of Palestinians, in order to teach them a lesson. The decision was based on the traditional Israeli concept: hit the civilian population again and again, until it overthrows its leaders. This has been tried hundreds of times and has failed hundreds of times.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Devaluing Palestinian Life : Bryan Farrell .com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devaluing Palestinian Life : Bryan Farrell .com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 06:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As if the near $3 billion in US military aid to Israel last year wasn&#8217;t enough of an indication that America devalues Palestinian life, Congress passed a resolution (404 - 1) last Wednesday condemning Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel&#8211;not Israel&#8217;s siege on Gaza, which in a spat of attacks last week killed more than 100 people. In fact, the resolution actually vindicates these attacks by saying, “the inadvertent inflicting of civilian casualties as a result of defensive military operations aimed at military targets, while deeply regrettable, is not at all morally equivalent to the deliberate targeting of civilian populations as practiced by Hamas and other Gaza-based terrorist groups.” [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As if the near $3 billion in US military aid to Israel last year wasn&#8217;t enough of an indication that America devalues Palestinian life, Congress passed a resolution (404 - 1) last Wednesday condemning Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel&#8211;not Israel&#8217;s siege on Gaza, which in a spat of attacks last week killed more than 100 people. In fact, the resolution actually vindicates these attacks by saying, “the inadvertent inflicting of civilian casualties as a result of defensive military operations aimed at military targets, while deeply regrettable, is not at all morally equivalent to the deliberate targeting of civilian populations as practiced by Hamas and other Gaza-based terrorist groups.” [...]</p>
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		<title>By: salem s</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/05/congress-defends-gaza-assault-404-1/#comment-138753</link>
		<dc:creator>salem s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 01:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any one out there who can explain what Mr.Chris is saying would be much apperciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any one out there who can explain what Mr.Chris is saying would be much apperciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what the Zionists did (ethnic cleansing through terror), can't ultimately be seen as all that wrong, if one has no qualms with what happened in Europe after WWII ended.

Look at what was done with all the German civilians in the territories annexed by the USSR &#38; Poland, as well as in Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania, Serbia, etc.  No one feels that to be wrong.

Or look at the ethnic cleansing of Poles by the USSR from western Ukraine, Byelorussia.

Or any of the cleansings done in the Balkans in the last 15 years, the last being the ethnic cleansing of the Serbs BY THE Albanians in Kosovo under the blind eye of the UN.

And of course there is Tibet.

All are the same, so Israel has no obligation to change, so long as the West refuses to talk about the above and to condemn it.

As to the Balfour declaration, if you google it enough, you will see that the Declaration was payback for getting the US (despite overwhelming popular opposition) into WWI.  GB and France were about finished in 1917, and only the US entry saved their hide.  For that, for the GB to give away something they did not own in the first place (Ottoman Empire territory), was a small prive to pay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what the Zionists did (ethnic cleansing through terror), can&#8217;t ultimately be seen as all that wrong, if one has no qualms with what happened in Europe after WWII ended.</p>
<p>Look at what was done with all the German civilians in the territories annexed by the USSR &amp; Poland, as well as in Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania, Serbia, etc.  No one feels that to be wrong.</p>
<p>Or look at the ethnic cleansing of Poles by the USSR from western Ukraine, Byelorussia.</p>
<p>Or any of the cleansings done in the Balkans in the last 15 years, the last being the ethnic cleansing of the Serbs BY THE Albanians in Kosovo under the blind eye of the UN.</p>
<p>And of course there is Tibet.</p>
<p>All are the same, so Israel has no obligation to change, so long as the West refuses to talk about the above and to condemn it.</p>
<p>As to the Balfour declaration, if you google it enough, you will see that the Declaration was payback for getting the US (despite overwhelming popular opposition) into WWI.  GB and France were about finished in 1917, and only the US entry saved their hide.  For that, for the GB to give away something they did not own in the first place (Ottoman Empire territory), was a small prive to pay.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/05/congress-defends-gaza-assault-404-1/#comment-138729</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

what the Zionists did (ethnic cleansing through terror), can't ultimately be seen as all that wrong, if one has no qualms with what happened in Europe after WWII ended.

Look at what was done with all the German civilians in the territories annexed by the USSR &#38; Poland, as well as in Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania, Serbia, etc.  No one feels that to be wrong.

Or look at the ethnic cleansing of Poles by the USSR from western Ukraine, Byelorussia.

Or any of the cleansings done in the Balkans in the last 15 years, the last being the ethnic cleansing of the Serbs BY THE Albanians in Kosovo under the blind eye of the UN.

And of course there is Tibet.

All are the same, so Israel has no obligation to change, so long as the West refuses to talk about the above and to condemn it.

As to the Balfour declaration, if you google it enough, you will see that the Declaration was payback for getting the US (despite overwhelming popular opposition) into WWI.  GB and France were about finished in 1917, and only the US entry saved their hide.  For that, for the GB to give away something they did not own in the first place (Ottoman Empire territory), was a small prive to pay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>what the Zionists did (ethnic cleansing through terror), can&#8217;t ultimately be seen as all that wrong, if one has no qualms with what happened in Europe after WWII ended.</p>
<p>Look at what was done with all the German civilians in the territories annexed by the USSR &amp; Poland, as well as in Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania, Serbia, etc.  No one feels that to be wrong.</p>
<p>Or look at the ethnic cleansing of Poles by the USSR from western Ukraine, Byelorussia.</p>
<p>Or any of the cleansings done in the Balkans in the last 15 years, the last being the ethnic cleansing of the Serbs BY THE Albanians in Kosovo under the blind eye of the UN.</p>
<p>And of course there is Tibet.</p>
<p>All are the same, so Israel has no obligation to change, so long as the West refuses to talk about the above and to condemn it.</p>
<p>As to the Balfour declaration, if you google it enough, you will see that the Declaration was payback for getting the US (despite overwhelming popular opposition) into WWI.  GB and France were about finished in 1917, and only the US entry saved their hide.  For that, for the GB to give away something they did not own in the first place (Ottoman Empire territory), was a small prive to pay.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, actually there already is such a thing (sort of).

Some time ago, Bush was speaking infront of AIPAC.

Behind him was a large Star-spanlge banner, with yellow stars of David in the white stripes.
I only know of this from print reporting, not actual pics.

Has anyone ever seen and saved that picture and could repost it?  It should get more publicity</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, actually there already is such a thing (sort of).</p>
<p>Some time ago, Bush was speaking infront of AIPAC.</p>
<p>Behind him was a large Star-spanlge banner, with yellow stars of David in the white stripes.<br />
I only know of this from print reporting, not actual pics.</p>
<p>Has anyone ever seen and saved that picture and could repost it?  It should get more publicity</p>
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		<title>By: salem s</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/05/congress-defends-gaza-assault-404-1/#comment-138677</link>
		<dc:creator>salem s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, 
I  simply stated facts that you thought,because of the lack of coverage by the media in the U.S., no one would able to chalange your statment"Also, what really makes me sick is the way some Muslims in Gaza, Lebannon and other places were actually celebrating the deaths of innocent people yesterday (just like they did on 9/11) When a major HAMAS terrorsist is killed I never see Jews or Americans singing and dancing in the streets. In fact, I once asked a Rabbi what is a proper reaction when a Jew hears that a dangerous HAMAS terrorist has been killed. He said the proper reaction is to say, “How sad! How unfortunate that we had no choice but to do that.” 

The fact is indeed some jews celebrated the killings of Palestnians as the case of the terrorist Baruch Goldstein.

I leave to others to judge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,<br />
I  simply stated facts that you thought,because of the lack of coverage by the media in the U.S., no one would able to chalange your statment&#8221;Also, what really makes me sick is the way some Muslims in Gaza, Lebannon and other places were actually celebrating the deaths of innocent people yesterday (just like they did on 9/11) When a major HAMAS terrorsist is killed I never see Jews or Americans singing and dancing in the streets. In fact, I once asked a Rabbi what is a proper reaction when a Jew hears that a dangerous HAMAS terrorist has been killed. He said the proper reaction is to say, “How sad! How unfortunate that we had no choice but to do that.” </p>
<p>The fact is indeed some jews celebrated the killings of Palestnians as the case of the terrorist Baruch Goldstein.</p>
<p>I leave to others to judge.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim R.</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/05/congress-defends-gaza-assault-404-1/#comment-138644</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salem S,

You really disgust me. And so do people like yourself. What happend at that Yeshiva was pure, cold blooded MURDER. Period.
In 94 when Goldstien killed all those Palestinains that was pure cold blooded murder too. I don't make excuses. Murder is murder. So stop making excuses and trying to rationalize evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salem S,</p>
<p>You really disgust me. And so do people like yourself. What happend at that Yeshiva was pure, cold blooded MURDER. Period.<br />
In 94 when Goldstien killed all those Palestinains that was pure cold blooded murder too. I don&#8217;t make excuses. Murder is murder. So stop making excuses and trying to rationalize evil.</p>
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		<title>By: salem s</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/05/congress-defends-gaza-assault-404-1/#comment-138594</link>
		<dc:creator>salem s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 15:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"We cannot expect much analysis in the media of why the Mercaz HaRav yeshiva might have been chosen as a target. Was it mere coincidence that the school, named for Rabbi Abraham Isaac Kook, and led after his death by his son Rabbi Zvi Yehuda Kook, is the ideological cradle of the militant, Jewish supremacist settler movement Gush Emunim?

Unlike other sects in Israel which sought exemption of their students from military service, Gush Emunim encouraged its followers to join the army and become the armed wing of religious nationalist Zionism. Gush Emunim settlers, many of them, like Moshe Levinger, graduates of Mercaz HaRav, founded the most extreme and racist settlements in the Occupied West Bank, including the notorious colonies in and near Hebron whose inhabitants have made life miserable for Palestinians in the city and forced many of them out of their homes. It is the militant settlers of Gush Emunim who still honor Baruch Goldstein who murdered 29 Palestinians in Hebron in February 1994. It is in Hebron that the Gush Emunim settlers spray “Arabs to the gas chambers” on Palestinian houses."


 http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2008/03/08/the-sheeple-are-silent-but-israels-voice-is-heard-worldwide/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We cannot expect much analysis in the media of why the Mercaz HaRav yeshiva might have been chosen as a target. Was it mere coincidence that the school, named for Rabbi Abraham Isaac Kook, and led after his death by his son Rabbi Zvi Yehuda Kook, is the ideological cradle of the militant, Jewish supremacist settler movement Gush Emunim?</p>
<p>Unlike other sects in Israel which sought exemption of their students from military service, Gush Emunim encouraged its followers to join the army and become the armed wing of religious nationalist Zionism. Gush Emunim settlers, many of them, like Moshe Levinger, graduates of Mercaz HaRav, founded the most extreme and racist settlements in the Occupied West Bank, including the notorious colonies in and near Hebron whose inhabitants have made life miserable for Palestinians in the city and forced many of them out of their homes. It is the militant settlers of Gush Emunim who still honor Baruch Goldstein who murdered 29 Palestinians in Hebron in February 1994. It is in Hebron that the Gush Emunim settlers spray “Arabs to the gas chambers” on Palestinian houses.&#8221;</p>
<p> <a href="http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2008/03/08/the-sheeple-are-silent-but-israels-voice-is-heard-worldwide/" rel="nofollow">http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2008/03/08/the-sheeple-are-silent-but-israels-voice-is-heard-worldwide/</a></p>
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		<title>By: salem s</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/05/congress-defends-gaza-assault-404-1/#comment-138304</link>
		<dc:creator>salem s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 17:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"So they bless people and call them heroic when they kill innocent people? What if Israe intentionally killed 7 innocent students today and then an Israeli spokesperson called it “heroic” and “blessed” the people that carried it out? The outrage and condemnation would be heard around the world! But for HAMAS and people in Gaza to celebrate, that’s ok right? I mean, come on people, and I the only one that sees the hypocracy in this? 
..

 widely reported in the Hebrew press but given little place in the foreign press, that within two days of the massacre the walls of religious neighborhoods of west Jerusalem (and to a lesser extent of many other religious neighborhoods) were covered by posters extolling Goldstein's virtues and complaining that he did not manage to kill more Arabs. Children of religious settlers who came to Jerusalem to demonstrate sported buttons for months after the massacre that were inscribed: "Dr. Goldstein cured Israel's ills." Numerous concerts of Jewish religious music and other events often developed into demonstrations of tribute to Goldstein. The Hebrew press reported these incidents of public tribute in copious detail. No major politician protested against such celebrations....

Before the start of the procession well-known rabbis eulogized Goldstein and commended the murder. Rabbi Israel Ariel, for example, said: "The holy martyr, Baruch Goldstein, is from now on our intercessor in heaven. Goldstein did not act as an individual; he heard the cry of the land of Israel, which is being stolen from us day after day by the Muslims. He acted to relieve that cry of the land!" Toward the end of his eulogy Rabbi Ariel added: "The Jews will inherit the land not by any peace agreement but only by shedding blood." Ben-Shoshan Yeshu'a, a Jewish underground member, sentenced to life imprisonment for murder and amnestied after a few years spent under luxurious hotel conditions, lauded Goldstein and praised his action as an example for other Jews to follow.

http://theunjustmedia.com/the%20real_significance_of_baruch_goldstein.htm#bottom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So they bless people and call them heroic when they kill innocent people? What if Israe intentionally killed 7 innocent students today and then an Israeli spokesperson called it “heroic” and “blessed” the people that carried it out? The outrage and condemnation would be heard around the world! But for HAMAS and people in Gaza to celebrate, that’s ok right? I mean, come on people, and I the only one that sees the hypocracy in this?<br />
..</p>
<p> widely reported in the Hebrew press but given little place in the foreign press, that within two days of the massacre the walls of religious neighborhoods of west Jerusalem (and to a lesser extent of many other religious neighborhoods) were covered by posters extolling Goldstein&#8217;s virtues and complaining that he did not manage to kill more Arabs. Children of religious settlers who came to Jerusalem to demonstrate sported buttons for months after the massacre that were inscribed: &#8220;Dr. Goldstein cured Israel&#8217;s ills.&#8221; Numerous concerts of Jewish religious music and other events often developed into demonstrations of tribute to Goldstein. The Hebrew press reported these incidents of public tribute in copious detail. No major politician protested against such celebrations&#8230;.</p>
<p>Before the start of the procession well-known rabbis eulogized Goldstein and commended the murder. Rabbi Israel Ariel, for example, said: &#8220;The holy martyr, Baruch Goldstein, is from now on our intercessor in heaven. Goldstein did not act as an individual; he heard the cry of the land of Israel, which is being stolen from us day after day by the Muslims. He acted to relieve that cry of the land!&#8221; Toward the end of his eulogy Rabbi Ariel added: &#8220;The Jews will inherit the land not by any peace agreement but only by shedding blood.&#8221; Ben-Shoshan Yeshu&#8217;a, a Jewish underground member, sentenced to life imprisonment for murder and amnestied after a few years spent under luxurious hotel conditions, lauded Goldstein and praised his action as an example for other Jews to follow.</p>
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