Comments on: Everything You Need to Know About Alan Dershowitz

By: the legendary Bill

the legendary Bill — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:45:23 +0000

The comments about Dershowitz were actually generous..

By: Phil

Phil — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:23:45 +0000

I would jump in here but it seems that most of you have the situation well in hand. My advice to Tim R. is to declare victory and leave the field.

You must be some kind of masochist or from the WWE’s Iron Sheik School of Debate.

By: salem s

salem s — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:45:45 +0000

Those who advocate torture usually would advocate other measuers besides torture.They would call for the silincing of those who oppose their plans,or critics of certain governments,designating certain groups or indviduals as threats to society ,and like to rule by fear and intmidation.

H.R.1955 Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007
To prevent homegrown terrorism, and for other purposes.
Other Bill Titles
Official: To prevent homegrown terrorism, and for other purposes. as introduced.
Short: Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 as passed house.
Short: Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 as reported to house.
Short: Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 as introduced.
10/23/2007–Passed House amended. Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 – Amends the Homeland Security Act of 2002 to add a new section concerning the prevention of violent radicalization (an extremist belief system for facilitating ideologically based viole more…nce to advance political, religious, or social change) and homegrown terrorism (violence by a group or individual within the United States to coerce the U.S. government, the civilian population, or a segment thereof in furtherance of political or social objectives). Establishes within the legislative branch the National Commission on the Prevention of Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism to: (1) examine and report on facts and causes of violent radicalization, homegrown terrorism, and ideologically based violence in the United States; and (2) build upon, bring together, and avoid unnecessary duplication of related work done by other entities toward such goal. Requires: (1) interim reports and a final report from the Commission to the President and Congress on its findings and recommendations; (2) the public availability of such reports; and (3) Commission termination 30 days after its final report. Directs the Secretary of Homeland Security to establish or designate a university-based Center of Excellence for the Study of Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism in the United States to assist federal, state, local, and tribal homeland security officials, through training, education, and research, in preventing violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism in the United States. Requires the Secretary to: (1) conduct a survey of methodologies implemented by foreign nations to prevent violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism; and (2) report to Congress on lessons learned from survey results. Prohibits Department of Homeland Security (DHS) efforts to prevent ideologically based violence and homegrown terrorism from violating the constitutional and civil rights or civil liberties of U.S. citizens or lawful permanent residents. Directs the: (1) Secretary to ensure that activities and operations are in compliance with DHS's commitment to racial neutrality; and (2) DHS Civil Rights and Civil Liberties Officer to develop and implement an auditing system to ensure that compliance does not violate the constitutional and civil rights or civil liberties of any racial, ethnic, or religious group, and to include audit results in its annual report to Congress.

By: salem s

salem s — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:29:24 +0000

Tim,
I wished that you would have followed your suggestion in pervious post:

Comment by Tim R. on 2008-03-09 11:40:43 Report abuse

“Salem S,

You really disgust me. And so do people like yourself”.

Despite of that i’ll honour your request.

By: Kenneth

Kenneth — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:51:22 +0000

There’s something the “personal responsibility” types aren’t going to bring up soon…

By: abraham

abraham — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:49:01 +0000

Watch Norman Finkelstein DEMOLISH Alan Douchewitz:

http://www.archive.org/stream/dn2003-0924_vid/dn2003-0924_256kb.mp4

By: abraham

abraham — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:27:01 +0000

Remember when the Columbia, with an Israeli astronaut on board, disintegrated over Palestine, Texas?

It was a sign from God. An allegory. A harbinger.

By: abraham

abraham — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:23:18 +0000

Remember: he was also part of the team that defended OJ Simpson.

By: abraham

abraham — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:12:23 +0000

Once again, our friend Tim R. demonstrates that illiteracy and ingorance don’t necessarily go hand in hand.

One can be a poet and still be abjectly stupid.

By: Thomas George

Thomas George — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:08:30 +0000

There was a time when I would see Allen Dershowitz on the street and stop to talk to him about the legal difficulties that one of my friends had with the government……I am grateful for the help he provided on those occasions. I thought of him as a moral paragon, along with others that presented themselves as representatives of the highest moral values like Elie Wiesel. Sadly, they have failed themselves, us and all people by being sucked to the most gruesome outrages practiced by those in power when exercised against those they consider their enemies……No more can they demonize those in the past that traded their humanity for glib assurences of success by the sadists & murderers that we allow to “protect” us from threats, real, imagined and manufactured….It is instructive how tribal loyalties so easily can upend the law and any hint of humane moral decency. John Yoo publicly argued there is no law that could prevent the President from ordering the torture of a child of a suspect in custody â€“ including by crushing that childâ€™s testicles. THIS IS THE EXTENT OF THE MADNESS AFOOT TO WHICH THESE PEOPLE NOW SUBSCRIBE…….How much farther does this MADNESS need to proceed before it has these powers doing wholesale liquidation of people, peoples and entire nations?? But do not worry, it is all for SOMEONE’s good cause. The most worrying aspect for me is:: WHAT IF THE TORTURE IS TO COVER UP A MONSTROUS CRIME?? Why would SO MUCH evidence be destroyed? E.G.– If the 911 conspirators under torture, said what the government contends they said, WHY DESTROY THOSE TAPES?? see http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/07/washington/07intel.html?scp=3&sq=torture+tapes+destroyed&st=nyt Why were the 911 air traffic controllers tapes destroyed?? see http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F03EEDF173CF934A35756C0A9629C8B63 How many LIES did THIS ADMINISTRATION tell to get their wars?? Are you sure that you want THIS ADMINISTRATION to be in the torture business??