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		<title>By: Bill K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clarification. I mean Major War. I don&#039;t consider Pancho Villa&#039;s raids into the US a Major War.</description>
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		<title>By: Bill K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Somme had been on US soil Americans might remember, but the last war to be actually fought in the Continental US was the Civil War and virtually nobody remembers its brutality and destruction.</description>
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		<title>By: Eugene Costa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eugene Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 04:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The Inquisition goes down in history as one of the most horrible crime against humanity. To begin the story of the Inquisition, we must begin at the beginning, with the Albigensian heresy.

The Albigenses, also called Cathari (&quot;Pure Ones&quot;), was a heretical Christian sect which had a large following in southern France, mainly in the regions of Toulouse and Languedoc, in the twelfth and thirteenth centuries. Their name is taken from a city in Southern France called Albi. They rejected all church sacraments and believed that matter is intrinsically evil (a la the Gnostics). Jesus, they taught was an angel with a phantom body; he did not really suffer on the cross. The importance they attached to Jesus was to his teachings not his death and resurrection. Unusual for a Christian sect, the Albigenses were strictly pacifist and non-violent. They were also tolerant of other beliefs. 

The Albigenses were condemned by Church councils starting from 1165. At first Pope Innocent III (1160-1216) sent in the Dominican monks to try to convince the Albigenses, by public debate, of the error of their ways. But they were unsuccessful and the region remain firmly under the Albigensian heresy. With both the condemnation of the council and the public debates of the Dominicans unsuccessful, the pope decided to play his trump card: the sword. In 1209 Pope Innocent III initiated the campaign known as the Albigensian crusade. Like the crusades against the Muslims the pope offered indulgences to all its participants. This brought about twenty thousand eager Christians, knights and peasants, from all over Europe.

The Albigensian crusade was to outdo all the atrocities of the past: for the first time a pope was sanctioning a holy war against other Christians. The crusaders attacked all the towns where the heresy was strong. An example of the senseless slaughter that took place can be taken from the storming of the city of Bezeirs. The papal appointee Arnald Almaric, Abbot of Cliteaux, was asked during the siege how he planned to distinguish the believers from the heretics in the city. His answer was spine-chilling: &quot;Kill all, God will know his own.&quot; The killing, in many cases was not done instantly, the victims were first blinded, mutilated, dragged behind horses and used for target practice. By Arnald&#039;s own account, about 15,000 men, women and children were slaughtered there. Some chroniclers estimated the figure to be closer to 50,000. 

The papal legates tried to outdo each other in the level of cruelty imposed on the Albigenses. One of them, Simon of Montfont was truly a crusader in the traditional mould. In his piety he prayed to his God before every battle. The chronicler Pierre des Vaux-de-Cernay described one of Simon&#039;s prayer:

	“Having prayed at length and with great devotion, he grasped the sword hanging by his side and laid it on the altar, saying, &quot;O good Lord, O Gentle Jesus! You have chosen me to wage your wars in spite of my unworthiness. It is from your altar that I receive my arms today, so that in the moment of fighting your battles I may receive my weapons from you.&quot; 

Divinely inspired, Simon captured one Albigensian stronghold after another. He used torture as a method of slowly killing his victims before burning them. As for those whose live he decided to spare, he had their eyes torn out. The crusade lasted for more than twenty years and the estimated casualty was about one million dead. 

This wholesale massacre almost completely destroyed the nascent civilization of a brilliant people. 

Almost was not enough for the pious Christian bishops. In 1233, Pope Gregory IX (c1148-1241) established the Inquisition or, more formally, The Congregation of the Holy Office. Its aim was simple, to seek out and eradicate the Albigensian heretics. Gregory entrusted the Inquisition to the Dominican monks. As an ecclesiastical court, with a &quot;secular arm&quot; for administering the death penalty, the Inquisition wielded immense power. Accusations can be made anonymously, which made the task of the defence all the more difficult. If a person accused of heresy refused to confess, he will be tried before an Inquisitor, who will generally be assisted by some members of the clergy and the lay community. The ultimate penalty was burning at the stake. Other penalties included imprisonment and confiscation of property. 

In 1251 Pope Innocent IV (d.1254) authorized the use of torture in the Inquisition to abstract confession from the accused. The tremendously added to the efficacy of the whole process. The methods of torture used must be described for its horror to be appreciated. Given below is a summary, by the Swiss historian Walter Nigg, of the torture used the Inquisition:

	“The thumbscrew was usually the first to be applied. The fingers were placed in clamps and the screws turned until the blood spurted out and the bones were crushed. The defendant might be placed on the iron torture chair, the seat of which consisted of sharpened iron nails that could be heated red hot from below. There were the so-called &quot;boots&quot; which were employed to crush the shinbones. Another favorite torture was the dislocation of the limbs on the rack or the wheel on which the heretic, bound hand and foot, was drawn up and down while the body was weighted with stones. So that the tortures would not be disturbed by the shrieking of the victim, his mouth was stuffed with cloth. Three- and four-hour sessions of torture were nothing unusual. During the procedures the instruments were frequently sprinkled with holy water.”

Some people, unaccustomed to associating religion- or religious people- with atrocities, would tend to assume that these inquisitors acted against their religious beliefs and were, very probably, vandals and hooligans; and certainly not virtuous. But that would be a gross mistake; they were ruthless precisely because of their deep faith; as the ex-priest, Peter de Rosa clearly testifies:

	“The most frightening of the inquisitors were the incorruptible ones; they tortured purely and simply for the love of God. They had no financial interest...they acted solely for the good of the cause. The very asceticism of most of these pious God-fearing Dominicans made them pathologically harsh. Used to pain themselves, they had a spiritual yearning to inflict pain on others. The screams of their victims were a kind of theological music to their ears, a proof that Satan was taking a pasting. They also rejoiced like children at the pope’s benevolence towards them; he gave them the same indulgences he gave the knights who went to the crusades.”

The Inquisition was extremely successful in southern France. By the middle of the thirteenth century, the Albigensian heresy there was extirpated. The Inquisition continued to ruthlessly hunt down the remainder throughout Europe. By the fourteenth century, the Albigenses had ceased to exist, a powerful testament to the strength of the Inquisition. &lt;/i&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The Inquisition goes down in history as one of the most horrible crime against humanity. To begin the story of the Inquisition, we must begin at the beginning, with the Albigensian heresy.</p>
<p>The Albigenses, also called Cathari (&#8221;Pure Ones&#8221;), was a heretical Christian sect which had a large following in southern France, mainly in the regions of Toulouse and Languedoc, in the twelfth and thirteenth centuries. Their name is taken from a city in Southern France called Albi. They rejected all church sacraments and believed that matter is intrinsically evil (a la the Gnostics). Jesus, they taught was an angel with a phantom body; he did not really suffer on the cross. The importance they attached to Jesus was to his teachings not his death and resurrection. Unusual for a Christian sect, the Albigenses were strictly pacifist and non-violent. They were also tolerant of other beliefs. </p>
<p>The Albigenses were condemned by Church councils starting from 1165. At first Pope Innocent III (1160-1216) sent in the Dominican monks to try to convince the Albigenses, by public debate, of the error of their ways. But they were unsuccessful and the region remain firmly under the Albigensian heresy. With both the condemnation of the council and the public debates of the Dominicans unsuccessful, the pope decided to play his trump card: the sword. In 1209 Pope Innocent III initiated the campaign known as the Albigensian crusade. Like the crusades against the Muslims the pope offered indulgences to all its participants. This brought about twenty thousand eager Christians, knights and peasants, from all over Europe.</p>
<p>The Albigensian crusade was to outdo all the atrocities of the past: for the first time a pope was sanctioning a holy war against other Christians. The crusaders attacked all the towns where the heresy was strong. An example of the senseless slaughter that took place can be taken from the storming of the city of Bezeirs. The papal appointee Arnald Almaric, Abbot of Cliteaux, was asked during the siege how he planned to distinguish the believers from the heretics in the city. His answer was spine-chilling: &#8220;Kill all, God will know his own.&#8221; The killing, in many cases was not done instantly, the victims were first blinded, mutilated, dragged behind horses and used for target practice. By Arnald&#8217;s own account, about 15,000 men, women and children were slaughtered there. Some chroniclers estimated the figure to be closer to 50,000. </p>
<p>The papal legates tried to outdo each other in the level of cruelty imposed on the Albigenses. One of them, Simon of Montfont was truly a crusader in the traditional mould. In his piety he prayed to his God before every battle. The chronicler Pierre des Vaux-de-Cernay described one of Simon&#8217;s prayer:</p>
<p>	“Having prayed at length and with great devotion, he grasped the sword hanging by his side and laid it on the altar, saying, &#8220;O good Lord, O Gentle Jesus! You have chosen me to wage your wars in spite of my unworthiness. It is from your altar that I receive my arms today, so that in the moment of fighting your battles I may receive my weapons from you.&#8221; </p>
<p>Divinely inspired, Simon captured one Albigensian stronghold after another. He used torture as a method of slowly killing his victims before burning them. As for those whose live he decided to spare, he had their eyes torn out. The crusade lasted for more than twenty years and the estimated casualty was about one million dead. </p>
<p>This wholesale massacre almost completely destroyed the nascent civilization of a brilliant people. </p>
<p>Almost was not enough for the pious Christian bishops. In 1233, Pope Gregory IX (c1148-1241) established the Inquisition or, more formally, The Congregation of the Holy Office. Its aim was simple, to seek out and eradicate the Albigensian heretics. Gregory entrusted the Inquisition to the Dominican monks. As an ecclesiastical court, with a &#8220;secular arm&#8221; for administering the death penalty, the Inquisition wielded immense power. Accusations can be made anonymously, which made the task of the defence all the more difficult. If a person accused of heresy refused to confess, he will be tried before an Inquisitor, who will generally be assisted by some members of the clergy and the lay community. The ultimate penalty was burning at the stake. Other penalties included imprisonment and confiscation of property. </p>
<p>In 1251 Pope Innocent IV (d.1254) authorized the use of torture in the Inquisition to abstract confession from the accused. The tremendously added to the efficacy of the whole process. The methods of torture used must be described for its horror to be appreciated. Given below is a summary, by the Swiss historian Walter Nigg, of the torture used the Inquisition:</p>
<p>	“The thumbscrew was usually the first to be applied. The fingers were placed in clamps and the screws turned until the blood spurted out and the bones were crushed. The defendant might be placed on the iron torture chair, the seat of which consisted of sharpened iron nails that could be heated red hot from below. There were the so-called &#8220;boots&#8221; which were employed to crush the shinbones. Another favorite torture was the dislocation of the limbs on the rack or the wheel on which the heretic, bound hand and foot, was drawn up and down while the body was weighted with stones. So that the tortures would not be disturbed by the shrieking of the victim, his mouth was stuffed with cloth. Three- and four-hour sessions of torture were nothing unusual. During the procedures the instruments were frequently sprinkled with holy water.”</p>
<p>Some people, unaccustomed to associating religion- or religious people- with atrocities, would tend to assume that these inquisitors acted against their religious beliefs and were, very probably, vandals and hooligans; and certainly not virtuous. But that would be a gross mistake; they were ruthless precisely because of their deep faith; as the ex-priest, Peter de Rosa clearly testifies:</p>
<p>	“The most frightening of the inquisitors were the incorruptible ones; they tortured purely and simply for the love of God. They had no financial interest&#8230;they acted solely for the good of the cause. The very asceticism of most of these pious God-fearing Dominicans made them pathologically harsh. Used to pain themselves, they had a spiritual yearning to inflict pain on others. The screams of their victims were a kind of theological music to their ears, a proof that Satan was taking a pasting. They also rejoiced like children at the pope’s benevolence towards them; he gave them the same indulgences he gave the knights who went to the crusades.”</p>
<p>The Inquisition was extremely successful in southern France. By the middle of the thirteenth century, the Albigensian heresy there was extirpated. The Inquisition continued to ruthlessly hunt down the remainder throughout Europe. By the fourteenth century, the Albigenses had ceased to exist, a powerful testament to the strength of the Inquisition. </i></p>
<p>[http://www.geocities.com/paulntobin/inquisition.html]</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Costa</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/19/let-us-not-forget/comment-page-1/#comment-145955</link>
		<dc:creator>Eugene Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 02:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;”The Pope, Innocent III, called a formal Crusade against the Cathars of the Languedoc, appointing a series of military leaders to head his Holy Army. The first was a Cistercian abbot (Arnaud Amaury) now best remembered for his command at Béziers &quot;Kill them all. God will know his own&quot;. The second was Simon de Montfort now remembered as the father of another Simon de Montfort, a prominent figure in English parliamentary history.  The war against the Cathars of the Languedoc continued for two generations. In the later phases the Kings of France would take over as leaders of the crusade, which thus became a Royal Crusade.

From 1208, a war of terror was waged against the indigenous population and their rulers… During this period an estimated 500,000 Languedoc men women and children were massacred - Catholics as well as Cathars. The Counts of Toulouse and their allies were dispossessed and humiliated, and their lands annexed to France.  Educated and tolerant Languedoc rulers were replaced by relative barbarians;  Dominic Guzmán (later Saint Dominic) founded the Dominican Order and soon afterwards the Inquisition, manned by his Dominicans, was established explicitly to wipe out the last vestiges of resistance. Persecutions of Languedoc Jews and other minorities were initiated;  the culture of the troubadours was lost as their cultured patrons were reduced to wandering refugees known as faidits. Their characteristic concept of &quot;paratge&quot;, a whole sophisticated world-view, was almost destroyed, leaving us a pale imitation in our idea of chivalry. Lay learning was discouraged and the reading of the bible became a capital crime. Tithes were enforced. The Languedoc started its long economic decline to become the poorest region in France;  and the language of the area, Occitan, began its descent from the foremost literary language in Europe to a regional dialect, now disparaged as a patois. 

At the end of the extermination of the Cathars, the Roman Church had convincing proof that a sustained campaign of genocide can work. It also had the precedent of an internal Crusade within Christendom, and the machinery of the first modern police state that could be wheeled out for the Spanish Inquisition, and again for later Inquisitions and genocides. 

The crusade against the Cathars of the Languedoc has been described as one of the greatest disasters ever to befall Europe….&lt;/i&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>”The Pope, Innocent III, called a formal Crusade against the Cathars of the Languedoc, appointing a series of military leaders to head his Holy Army. The first was a Cistercian abbot (Arnaud Amaury) now best remembered for his command at Béziers &#8220;Kill them all. God will know his own&#8221;. The second was Simon de Montfort now remembered as the father of another Simon de Montfort, a prominent figure in English parliamentary history.  The war against the Cathars of the Languedoc continued for two generations. In the later phases the Kings of France would take over as leaders of the crusade, which thus became a Royal Crusade.</p>
<p>From 1208, a war of terror was waged against the indigenous population and their rulers… During this period an estimated 500,000 Languedoc men women and children were massacred &#8211; Catholics as well as Cathars. The Counts of Toulouse and their allies were dispossessed and humiliated, and their lands annexed to France.  Educated and tolerant Languedoc rulers were replaced by relative barbarians;  Dominic Guzmán (later Saint Dominic) founded the Dominican Order and soon afterwards the Inquisition, manned by his Dominicans, was established explicitly to wipe out the last vestiges of resistance. Persecutions of Languedoc Jews and other minorities were initiated;  the culture of the troubadours was lost as their cultured patrons were reduced to wandering refugees known as faidits. Their characteristic concept of &#8220;paratge&#8221;, a whole sophisticated world-view, was almost destroyed, leaving us a pale imitation in our idea of chivalry. Lay learning was discouraged and the reading of the bible became a capital crime. Tithes were enforced. The Languedoc started its long economic decline to become the poorest region in France;  and the language of the area, Occitan, began its descent from the foremost literary language in Europe to a regional dialect, now disparaged as a patois. </p>
<p>At the end of the extermination of the Cathars, the Roman Church had convincing proof that a sustained campaign of genocide can work. It also had the precedent of an internal Crusade within Christendom, and the machinery of the first modern police state that could be wheeled out for the Spanish Inquisition, and again for later Inquisitions and genocides. </p>
<p>The crusade against the Cathars of the Languedoc has been described as one of the greatest disasters ever to befall Europe….</i></p>
<p> [http://www.languedoc-france.info/12_cathars.htm]</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Costa</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/19/let-us-not-forget/comment-page-1/#comment-145836</link>
		<dc:creator>Eugene Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 01:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From another point of view, the Fourth Crusade may also expand the &quot;Crusade&quot; aspect a bit as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From another point of view, the Fourth Crusade may also expand the &#8220;Crusade&#8221; aspect a bit as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Costa</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/19/let-us-not-forget/comment-page-1/#comment-145834</link>
		<dc:creator>Eugene Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 01:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One might wish to review, in great detail, the Albigensian  Crusade.</description>
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		<title>By: Tim R.</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/19/let-us-not-forget/comment-page-1/#comment-145797</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will writes: &quot;Islam is a religion that begins with peace and ends with peace.&quot;

That is a very funny joke. Tell that to the 3,000 Americans who were burned alive on 9/11/01 while your peaceful Muslim brothers shouted &quot;Allah Akbar&quot; while they deliberatly murdered thousands of innoecent people. Peaceful relgion? What rubbish! Tell that to the famililes of Nick Berg and Daniel Pearl, who had their heads CHOPPED OFF by your Muslim brothers.

Karl Marx once said that &quot;religion is the opiate of the masses.&quot; When thinking of a person like you, I think he was probably right.

PS: The violent rubbish found in the Hadiths I cited is very easy to look up. Just do a google search for crying out loud and stop pretending to be ignorant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will writes: &#8220;Islam is a religion that begins with peace and ends with peace.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is a very funny joke. Tell that to the 3,000 Americans who were burned alive on 9/11/01 while your peaceful Muslim brothers shouted &#8220;Allah Akbar&#8221; while they deliberatly murdered thousands of innoecent people. Peaceful relgion? What rubbish! Tell that to the famililes of Nick Berg and Daniel Pearl, who had their heads CHOPPED OFF by your Muslim brothers.</p>
<p>Karl Marx once said that &#8220;religion is the opiate of the masses.&#8221; When thinking of a person like you, I think he was probably right.</p>
<p>PS: The violent rubbish found in the Hadiths I cited is very easy to look up. Just do a google search for crying out loud and stop pretending to be ignorant.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/19/let-us-not-forget/comment-page-1/#comment-145757</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spoke about the Aisha issue when I addressed the Prophets marriages.

There is a big difference between Quranic verses and Hadith.  Anything Bukhari says is a hadith, which is a saying somebody said that somebody saw the prophet do.  A great deal of effort is put to preserve the accuracy of hadith in Islam but it is not without error.

That said, I only have a Quran handy and I don&#039;t have the wide volumes of hadith.  I cannot speak to it because I don&#039;t have it to go back to it and read it.  I have never heard of these Hadiths you speak of so I cannot address them.  

All I know is that you have twisted and taken out of context every Quranic verse you could and you have been exposed to be nothing but a sleazy liar who knows nothing about the religion you are attacking.  I don&#039;t claim to be an Islamic scholar, but a quick review of those verses doesn&#039;t take a genius to see you&#039;re a fraud.  For this I won&#039;t respond to you any more.

Islam is a religion that begins with peace and ends with peace.  And anything you try to dig up and twist to hold against Islam won&#039;t work.

And no.  No breaks.  The Prophet Mohammad, may God&#039;s mercy, prayers, and peace be upon him, is the finest man to walk this earth.


Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spoke about the Aisha issue when I addressed the Prophets marriages.</p>
<p>There is a big difference between Quranic verses and Hadith.  Anything Bukhari says is a hadith, which is a saying somebody said that somebody saw the prophet do.  A great deal of effort is put to preserve the accuracy of hadith in Islam but it is not without error.</p>
<p>That said, I only have a Quran handy and I don&#8217;t have the wide volumes of hadith.  I cannot speak to it because I don&#8217;t have it to go back to it and read it.  I have never heard of these Hadiths you speak of so I cannot address them.  </p>
<p>All I know is that you have twisted and taken out of context every Quranic verse you could and you have been exposed to be nothing but a sleazy liar who knows nothing about the religion you are attacking.  I don&#8217;t claim to be an Islamic scholar, but a quick review of those verses doesn&#8217;t take a genius to see you&#8217;re a fraud.  For this I won&#8217;t respond to you any more.</p>
<p>Islam is a religion that begins with peace and ends with peace.  And anything you try to dig up and twist to hold against Islam won&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>And no.  No breaks.  The Prophet Mohammad, may God&#8217;s mercy, prayers, and peace be upon him, is the finest man to walk this earth.</p>
<p>Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenneth</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/19/let-us-not-forget/comment-page-1/#comment-145680</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenneth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Jihad&quot; is roughly equivalent to &quot;Crusade&quot; in English; ie, a &quot;crusade&quot; against poverty, against homelessness, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Jihad&#8221; is roughly equivalent to &#8220;Crusade&#8221; in English; ie, a &#8220;crusade&#8221; against poverty, against homelessness, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim R.</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/19/let-us-not-forget/comment-page-1/#comment-145649</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will,

How come you did not specifically and directly address the source texts I provided you with? Namely: the Prophet ordering Jewish women and children to be killed? (Bukhari 58:148), this so called prophet marrying and having sex with a 9 year old named Aisha (Sahih Muslim 3309) Muhammad telling people he&#039;d kill them if they don&#039;t convert  (See Ibn Ishaq 814)

See, Will, you just totally ignore the sources  that you can&#039;t dispute and the rest you find some silly way to twist and and distort. And if you don&#039;t like my tone about Muhammad, too bad! Finest person to walk the earth? Give me a break.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will,</p>
<p>How come you did not specifically and directly address the source texts I provided you with? Namely: the Prophet ordering Jewish women and children to be killed? (Bukhari 58:148), this so called prophet marrying and having sex with a 9 year old named Aisha (Sahih Muslim 3309) Muhammad telling people he&#8217;d kill them if they don&#8217;t convert  (See Ibn Ishaq 814)</p>
<p>See, Will, you just totally ignore the sources  that you can&#8217;t dispute and the rest you find some silly way to twist and and distort. And if you don&#8217;t like my tone about Muhammad, too bad! Finest person to walk the earth? Give me a break.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I explained all what you came up with on Islam.  
I twisted nothing, I just looked up the verses you cherry picked and explained them.

You now want me to talk about a sign you saw?  That&#039;s all you got after you have been exposed as a filthy liar?

No thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I explained all what you came up with on Islam.<br />
I twisted nothing, I just looked up the verses you cherry picked and explained them.</p>
<p>You now want me to talk about a sign you saw?  That&#8217;s all you got after you have been exposed as a filthy liar?</p>
<p>No thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 07:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great job, Sir. Well done. You are able to twist the plain-meaning of the text so well that you were able to distort the truth and to rationalize and excuse the filth contained in it. You would make a terrific(although sleazy) lawyer. If I saw a sign near a frozen lake that said, &quot;Danger: Thin Ice!&quot; I suppose you could make me believe that the sign was not necessarily speaking about that lake in particular, perhaps the sign was taken out of context and is refering to the danger of thin ice in general or from another time period. People like you will do anything to blindly follow religious dogma. You will play games and distort the truth to justify the unjustifiable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great job, Sir. Well done. You are able to twist the plain-meaning of the text so well that you were able to distort the truth and to rationalize and excuse the filth contained in it. You would make a terrific(although sleazy) lawyer. If I saw a sign near a frozen lake that said, &#8220;Danger: Thin Ice!&#8221; I suppose you could make me believe that the sign was not necessarily speaking about that lake in particular, perhaps the sign was taken out of context and is refering to the danger of thin ice in general or from another time period. People like you will do anything to blindly follow religious dogma. You will play games and distort the truth to justify the unjustifiable.</p>
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