Comments on: Another 50 Years Without Nuclear War? http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/28/another-50-years-without-nuclear-war/ Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:20:24 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Some Dusty Pictures of Taiwan » Doctor Recommended http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/28/another-50-years-without-nuclear-war/comment-page-1/#comment-159698 Some Dusty Pictures of Taiwan » Doctor Recommended Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:27:52 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/28/another-50-years-without-nuclear-war/#comment-159698 [...] briefly mentioned the March election over at AWC. This is an image of a daily occurrence during the run up to the election. Motorcades run by [...] [...] briefly mentioned the March election over at AWC. This is an image of a daily occurrence during the run up to the election. Motorcades run by [...]

]]> By: Ramifications of Russia invading Georgia | How To Fix America! http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/28/another-50-years-without-nuclear-war/comment-page-1/#comment-158946 Ramifications of Russia invading Georgia | How To Fix America! Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:17:16 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/28/another-50-years-without-nuclear-war/#comment-158946 [...] What is most worrying about this entire thing is that it came without warning to the general public. There was little to no coverage of this impending crisis before it happened. I’m even agreeing with the statements that this is the first step in Russia becoming a Super Power again. That alone is scary enough considering how many billions of people lived for years with the fear of Nuclear war. [...] [...] What is most worrying about this entire thing is that it came without warning to the general public. There was little to no coverage of this impending crisis before it happened. I’m even agreeing with the statements that this is the first step in Russia becoming a Super Power again. That alone is scary enough considering how many billions of people lived for years with the fear of Nuclear war. [...]

]]> By: Giving credit where credit is due » Doctor Recommended http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/28/another-50-years-without-nuclear-war/comment-page-1/#comment-149729 Giving credit where credit is due » Doctor Recommended Fri, 11 Apr 2008 04:37:28 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/28/another-50-years-without-nuclear-war/#comment-149729 [...] Taiwanese tribesmen. And ironically, it looks like the party he founded (KMT) will end up being the party of peace during the future integration with the [...] [...] Taiwanese tribesmen. And ironically, it looks like the party he founded (KMT) will end up being the party of peace during the future integration with the [...]

]]> By: Anton van der Baan http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/28/another-50-years-without-nuclear-war/comment-page-1/#comment-149504 Anton van der Baan Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:29:27 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/28/another-50-years-without-nuclear-war/#comment-149504 Iman. Read the book. Any other study of Homer is outdated. Iman.
Read the book.
Any other study of Homer is outdated.

]]> By: Eugene Costa http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/28/another-50-years-without-nuclear-war/comment-page-1/#comment-148986 Eugene Costa Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:55:48 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/28/another-50-years-without-nuclear-war/#comment-148986 corr: "mentioned above" corr: “mentioned above”

]]> By: Eugene Costa http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/28/another-50-years-without-nuclear-war/comment-page-1/#comment-148985 Eugene Costa Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:55:11 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/28/another-50-years-without-nuclear-war/#comment-148985 <i>"Where is Troy and Mycenae, and Thebes and Delos, and Persepolis and Agrigentum"--continued my father, taking up his book of postroads, which he had laid down...."</i> [Laurence Sterne] According to the Imam Wilkens mentioned about, they were all apparently--ready or this?--in Celtic England and France. To anyone one interested in a serious study of Troy and Homer, as opposed to such arrant fantasy, I highly commend Denys Page's History And The Homeric Iliad, which remains one of the best treatments of the matter in English. “Where is Troy and Mycenae, and Thebes and Delos, and Persepolis and Agrigentum”–continued my father, taking up his book of postroads, which he had laid down….”

[Laurence Sterne]

According to the Imam Wilkens mentioned about, they were all apparently–ready or this?–in Celtic England and France.

To anyone one interested in a serious study of Troy and Homer, as opposed to such arrant fantasy, I highly commend Denys Page’s History And The Homeric Iliad, which remains one of the best treatments of the matter in English.

]]> By: Eugene Costa http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/28/another-50-years-without-nuclear-war/comment-page-1/#comment-148874 Eugene Costa Sun, 30 Mar 2008 19:00:09 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/28/another-50-years-without-nuclear-war/#comment-148874 <i><b>HOA Bans Christmas Wreath With Peace Sign: HOA President Says Peace Sign Is Anti-Iraq War, Symbol Of Satan</b> [Denver News November 26, 2006]: DENVER -- In a town in scenic southwestern Colorado homeowners are battling over whether a Christmas wreath that includes a peace sign is an anti-Iraq war protest or even a promotion of Satan. "We have had three or four complaints. Some people have kids in Iraq and they are sensitive," said Bob Kearns, president of the Loma Lynda Homeowners Association in Pagosa Springs. He also said some believe it is a symbol of Satan.... Kearns said the association will fine Jensen $25 a day for everyday it remains up. She calculates that will cost her about $1,000, although she said she doubts they will be able to make her pay. <b>Kearns, meanwhile, also said he was concerned about the pagan symbolism of the peace sign. "It's also an anti-Christ sign. That's how it started," he told the Durango Herald. The newspaper, citing the 1972 edition of "Symbol Sourcebook: An Authoritative Guide to International Graphic Symbols" said that the author was also uncertain about the source of the "crow's foot" design in the peace symbol. While some say it's a symbol of total nuclear disarmament (coming from the semaphore signals for N and D) others claim the symbol represents an upside-down cross with broken arms and is therefore anti-Christian or Satanic.</b>... Jensen said she put up the wreath to honor the biblical call for peace and goodwill toward men. She said she and her husband hung the wreath on their outside wall Nov. 15 and plan to leave the wreath and all of her other Christmas decorations up until after Dec. 25....</i> [excerpt] HOA Bans Christmas Wreath With Peace Sign:
HOA President Says Peace Sign Is Anti-Iraq War, Symbol Of Satan

[Denver News November 26, 2006]: DENVER — In a town in scenic southwestern Colorado homeowners are battling over whether a Christmas wreath that includes a peace sign is an anti-Iraq war protest or even a promotion of Satan.

“We have had three or four complaints. Some people have kids in Iraq and they are sensitive,” said Bob Kearns, president of the Loma Lynda Homeowners Association in Pagosa Springs. He also said some believe it is a symbol of Satan….

Kearns said the association will fine Jensen $25 a day for everyday it remains up. She calculates that will cost her about $1,000, although she said she doubts they will be able to make her pay.

Kearns, meanwhile, also said he was concerned about the pagan symbolism of the peace sign. “It’s also an anti-Christ sign. That’s how it started,” he told the Durango Herald.

The newspaper, citing the 1972 edition of “Symbol Sourcebook: An Authoritative Guide to International Graphic Symbols” said that the author was also uncertain about the source of the “crow’s foot” design in the peace symbol. While some say it’s a symbol of total nuclear disarmament (coming from the semaphore signals for N and D) others claim the symbol represents an upside-down cross with broken arms and is therefore anti-Christian or Satanic.…

Jensen said she put up the wreath to honor the biblical call for peace and goodwill toward men. She said she and her husband hung the wreath on their outside wall Nov. 15 and plan to leave the wreath and all of her other Christmas decorations up until after Dec. 25….

[excerpt]

]]> By: Eugene Costa http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/28/another-50-years-without-nuclear-war/comment-page-1/#comment-148871 Eugene Costa Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:44:27 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/28/another-50-years-without-nuclear-war/#comment-148871 <i>Several groups including those associated with the anti-cult movement have expressed concern that tactics of some of the organizations that support Amway IBOs may constitute cult-like activity. Steven Hassan's Freedom of Mind Center lists the practices of some of these groups as potentially abusive according to his "BITE" Model of mind control. Other similar organizations that have expressed concern with the activities of AMOs in practice include FACTnet, Cult Awareness and Information Centre (Australia), and others. The Rick Ross Institute keeps a collection of related material on its website. A Dateline NBC report from 2004 picked up the criticism against Amway's successor Quixtar and explicitly linked the two companies as being effectively one and the same. One controversy that Amway was involved with was an urban legend that the (old) Procter & Gamble service mark was in fact a Satanic symbol or that the CEO of P&G is himself a practicing Satanist (in some variants of the urban legend, it is also claimed that the CEO of Procter & Gamble donated "satanic tithes" to the Church of Satan). Procter & Gamble alleged that several Amway distributors were behind a resurgence of the urban legend in the 1990s and sued several independent Amway distributors and the parent company for defamation and slander. After more than a decade of lawsuits in multiple states, by 2003 all allegations against Amway and Amway distributors had been dismissed. However, in October 2005 a Utah appeals court reversed part of the decision dismissing the case against four Amway distributors, and remanded it to the earlier court for further proceedings.[39] On 20 March 2007, Procter & Gamble was awarded 19.25 million dollars by a U.S. District Court jury in Salt Lake City, in the lawsuit filed against four Amway distributors in 1995.</i> [wikipedia] Several groups including those associated with the anti-cult movement have expressed concern that tactics of some of the organizations that support Amway IBOs may constitute cult-like activity. Steven Hassan’s Freedom of Mind Center lists the practices of some of these groups as potentially abusive according to his “BITE” Model of mind control. Other similar organizations that have expressed concern with the activities of AMOs in practice include FACTnet, Cult Awareness and Information Centre (Australia), and others. The Rick Ross Institute keeps a collection of related material on its website.

A Dateline NBC report from 2004 picked up the criticism against Amway’s successor Quixtar and explicitly linked the two companies as being effectively one and the same.

One controversy that Amway was involved with was an urban legend that the (old) Procter & Gamble service mark was in fact a Satanic symbol or that the CEO of P&G is himself a practicing Satanist (in some variants of the urban legend, it is also claimed that the CEO of Procter & Gamble donated “satanic tithes” to the Church of Satan). Procter & Gamble alleged that several Amway distributors were behind a resurgence of the urban legend in the 1990s and sued several independent Amway distributors and the parent company for defamation and slander. After more than a decade of lawsuits in multiple states, by 2003 all allegations against Amway and Amway distributors had been dismissed.

However, in October 2005 a Utah appeals court reversed part of the decision dismissing the case against four Amway distributors, and remanded it to the earlier court for further proceedings.[39] On 20 March 2007, Procter & Gamble was awarded 19.25 million dollars by a U.S. District Court jury in Salt Lake City, in the lawsuit filed against four Amway distributors in 1995.

[wikipedia]

]]> By: Eugene Costa http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/28/another-50-years-without-nuclear-war/comment-page-1/#comment-148870 Eugene Costa Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:41:03 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/28/another-50-years-without-nuclear-war/#comment-148870 <i>Commentators have identified Amway as supporting the U.S. Republican Party,[24] and its founders contributed $4,000,000 to a conservative 527 in the 2004 election cycle. Amway states that its business opportunity is open to people regardless of their religious and political beliefs/ Former Amway CEO Richard DeVos has been connected with the dominionist political movement in the U.S. Multiple high-ranking Amway leaders, including Richard DeVos, Dexter Yager, and others are also owners and members of the board of Gospel Films, a producer of movies and books geared towards conservative Christians as well as co-owner (along with Salem Communications) of Gospel Communications. One of Amway's most successful distributors, Dexter Yager has...allowed Republican George W. Bush to send messages to thousands of downline distributors using Yager's voicemail system. Doug Wead, who was a Special Assistant to former U.S. President George H. W. Bush, is a successful IBO who is a regular speaker at group rallies. In 2000, current President George Bush appointed Timothy Muris, a former anti-trust lawyer whose largest client was Amway to head the FTC, which has direct federal regulatory oversight over multi-level marketing plans....</i> [wikipedia] Commentators have identified Amway as supporting the U.S. Republican Party,[24] and its founders contributed $4,000,000 to a conservative 527 in the 2004 election cycle. Amway states that its business opportunity is open to people regardless of their religious and political beliefs/

Former Amway CEO Richard DeVos has been connected with the dominionist political movement in the U.S.

Multiple high-ranking Amway leaders, including Richard DeVos, Dexter Yager, and others are also owners and members of the board of Gospel Films, a producer of movies and books geared towards conservative Christians as well as co-owner (along with Salem Communications) of Gospel Communications.

One of Amway’s most successful distributors, Dexter Yager has…allowed Republican George W. Bush to send messages to thousands of downline distributors using Yager’s voicemail system.

Doug Wead, who was a Special Assistant to former U.S. President George H. W. Bush, is a successful IBO who is a regular speaker at group rallies. In 2000, current President George Bush appointed Timothy Muris, a former anti-trust lawyer whose largest client was Amway to head the FTC, which has direct federal regulatory oversight over multi-level marketing plans….

[wikipedia]

]]> By: Eugene Costa http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/28/another-50-years-without-nuclear-war/comment-page-1/#comment-148852 Eugene Costa Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:08:06 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/28/another-50-years-without-nuclear-war/#comment-148852 <i> <b>Procter & Gamble Wins $19 Million in Lawsuit Over Satan Rumors</b> [Lisa Cornwell AP March 21, 2007]: Procter & Gamble Co. won a jury award of $19.25 million in a civil lawsuit filed against four former Amway distributors accused of spreading false rumors linking the company to Satanism to advance their own business. The U.S. District Court jury in Salt Lake City last Friday found for the Cincinnati-based consumer products company in a lawsuit filed by P&G in 1995. It was one of several the company brought over rumors alleging a link with the company's logo and Satanism. Rumors had begun circulating as early as 1981 that the company's logo — a bearded, crescent man-in-moon looking over a field of 13 stars — was a symbol of Satanism. The company alleged that Amway Corp. distributors revived those rumors in 1995, using a voice mail system to tell thousands of customers that part of Procter & Gamble profits went to satanic cults. The company's claim was based on the Lanham Act that prohibits unfair competition and false advertising....”</i> [excerpt as quoted in The Insurance Journal: http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2007/03/21/77915.htm] Procter & Gamble Wins $19 Million in Lawsuit Over Satan Rumors

[Lisa Cornwell AP March 21, 2007]: Procter & Gamble Co. won a jury award of $19.25 million in a civil lawsuit filed against four former Amway distributors accused of spreading false rumors linking the company to Satanism to advance their own business.

The U.S. District Court jury in Salt Lake City last Friday found for the Cincinnati-based consumer products company in a lawsuit filed by P&G in 1995. It was one of several the company brought over rumors alleging a link with the company’s logo and Satanism.

Rumors had begun circulating as early as 1981 that the company’s logo — a bearded, crescent man-in-moon looking over a field of 13 stars — was a symbol of Satanism.
The company alleged that Amway Corp. distributors revived those rumors in 1995, using a voice mail system to tell thousands of customers that part of Procter & Gamble profits went to satanic cults.

The company’s claim was based on the Lanham Act that prohibits unfair competition and false advertising….”

[excerpt as quoted in The Insurance Journal:
http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2007/03/21/77915.htm

]]> By: Kenneth http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/28/another-50-years-without-nuclear-war/comment-page-1/#comment-148822 Kenneth Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:59:35 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/28/another-50-years-without-nuclear-war/#comment-148822 Nah, you've made a robust case. Nah, you’ve made a robust case.

]]> By: phil http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/28/another-50-years-without-nuclear-war/comment-page-1/#comment-148730 phil Sun, 30 Mar 2008 13:38:32 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/03/28/another-50-years-without-nuclear-war/#comment-148730 I went to Catholic school for 7 years and the nuns were teachers there. They would make up stories all the time to illustrate their points. Things that I remembered and later on in life, found to be totally untrue. The peace symbol story doesn't surprise me. The Left Behind Evangelicals are just as bad with some of this stuff. I call it Comic Book Christianity. I went to Catholic school for 7 years and the nuns were teachers there. They would make up stories all the time to illustrate their points. Things that I remembered and later on in life, found to be totally untrue.

The peace symbol story doesn’t surprise me. The Left Behind Evangelicals are just as bad with some of this stuff. I call it Comic Book Christianity.

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