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Give your daughter up to serve Uncle Sam. He’ll take real good care of her for you.
And she’ll get money for college.
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‹ An Important Article: Read It Now! •
Give your daughter up to serve Uncle Sam. He’ll take real good care of her for you.
And she’ll get money for college.
…not!
The real problem is the culture of silence in the military about these matters. That and the old boys network.
Having served in the US Army infantry I can attest first hand to the lack of justice in the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ). If you are a big brown noser you can get away with murder (literally). When the punishment is dished out by your own command instead of a court of law you will always have this problem. Instead of taking the information to their chain of command women would be wise to go to a local authority if here in the states, or if that is not the case they need to go directly to the Inspector Generals office. Expecting justice to be handed out by a friend and fellow soldier (of the offender) is not realistic. Unfortunately I also know the pressure that is put on Joes to conform. It is very difficult for anyone in the military to speak out. You are immediately blacklisted and deemed less than reliable. It will effect your promotions and chances to get into slots for schools such as Ranger training, air assault, etc. If you want to get ahead in the military these schools are the way to go as you get promotion points based on them. If you make waves with your command they will simply put someone else on the school lists or not vote for your promotions.
Having said this I would also say that soldiers should be held to a higher level of conduct not a lesser one. I feel the same way in regards to officers of the law. When you are being paid to represent the people you should not abuse that authority and should be held more accountable rather than less.
I would also like to say that I was glad I served in an Infantry unit rather than say an MP unit. Our unit was males only. This included everything from the cooks to the medics. The MP units had female soldiers that they fought side by side with. I know I am risking being labeled as sexist but I am glad that I did not serve with women. Most of us were very young sexually charged up adolescence. The military term was “young and dumb and full of c*m”. Most of the Joes who re-upped remained adolescent. Somehow it seemed the military stunted their development by taking care of their every need (food, housing, thinking, etc.). Serving with women would have been one more distraction and complication in an already volatile environment.
Obviously women can and do serve with honor, distinction, and courage. However, as this article points out women are also left in a more vulnerable situation. I do not believe women should be fighting in combat units.
I also don’t believe that children should be enlisted. The enlistment age should be raised to 21. However that’s a different subject.
Peace!
Many more years ago than I care to remember I advocated raising the enlistment and draft age to 31.
I also opposed getting rid of the draft (which many of my contemporaries found strange) and argued that a voluntary army was the beginning of the end.
Makes perfect sense if you think about it.
Nowadays, it strikes me there might be some value actually in banning enlistments completely.
The half-brains we have in common think along the same lines, though my half may be a bit more radical than yours.
Who knows about the other two halves?
Hello Brad Smith, I differ in your opinions but am glad that you shared them!
I, too, enlisted in the U.S. Army and they were going to send me to Communication school but I gave that up for the Infantry. I carried a high powered rifle, the .30/06 M-1 Garand as well as the Browning B.A.R. and though we never had women in our units we had the W.A.C.’s (Women’s Army Corps) next door separated from us by a coupls strings of barbwire right through Basic and Advanced Infantry Training, and we never once ventured across that line of demarcation to rape, pillage or do them harm as we thought the world of them!
Neither you, or anyone else, can take rights and choices from our women! The problem today is the lack of a human education just to know right from wrong! As a matter of fact we never lost a battle against worthy foes until these congressional poltroons made it mandatory that their appointed military officers should first be crippled by wasted years at the university! We had O.C.S. (officers candidate schools were regular soldiers could make it as high as full bird colonels)!
To make my point, the Latinos today send their high school graduates straight into doctors schools without wasting time in so-called universities, and they have better doctors than we Americans now do!
Matter of fact, Americans won WWII on both sifddes of the Equator and most of our G.I.’s then were not even high school graduates. And the high-ranking Nazi military officers called these G.I.’s “Those Devils in baggy pants!” as they were full of admiration for American ingenuity, free-thinking and able G.I.’s not being crippled by the confines of decayed trash these less than useless insane asylum graduates from dysfunctional institutions don’t have the means to find their way out of today! -Al Koppel.
Wow, all that MILITARY GLORY wow! What Bush and Cheney, GREAT WARRIORS THEMSELVES, are riding on. Keep them hillbilles dumb and poor and joining up at 17 to eat. YASSSUH! A new Depression–BRING IT ON!
WAR FOR A HUNDRED YEARS!
I have an uncle (still living) landed at Normandy, was in Market Garden, and later with Patton in the Battle of the Bulge.
Combat engineer.
Never talked until very recently.
I’ll stick with his testimony about all the GLORY. It is a bit at variance with the above.
But who wants to get personal, eh?
Yassuh, and all the dumb hillbllies without edoocayshun that produced those airplanes and tanks and bombs and guns.
Dumb college kids!
Them dumb hillbilliies were real men–wooda beat them Gerries and Nips with paper clips and rubber bands if they needed to.
Who needs all that EDOOCAYSHUN?
Jes’ gives folks fancy ideas about themselves, YASSUH!
Gotdang! Send them kids to colledge they wown wahn go to war at 31, nossuh!
They might even consider their NCO’s dumbasses, along with the whole US military way of screwing up the wettest of wet dreams.
Course then you got the delicate problem with the vets from the First Gulf War–ah, er–radioactive semen from exploded DU.
Giving their wives cervical cancer among other things, yessuh.
Good thing they were keeping rape quiet in them days, imagine the legal complications.
Yessir, what made Merka the greatest country in the word–uneducated dumbasses!
To Alfred Koppel.
I agree completely that an education does not make a soldier. Nothing pissed me off more than having some butter bar straight from West Point giving me orders. for the most part (with a few exceptions they didn’t have a clue). The same goes for our current Universities. I used my G.I. bill to go through College and recieved two degrees. However, 90% of the garbage I learned had nothing to do with my chosen subject. However, I can tell you all about English Literature or Geology (Wow good for me right?). It’s legal graft, if you won’t pay for useless classes you can’t get the piece of paper that qualifies you for a job. Of course you will learn more in your first week on the job than you did in four or even six years at University.
Oh and one more point for Alfred Koppel.
We almost lost the Revolutionary war due to Washington’s attempts to modernize or educate our forces. I’m sure our local historian Eugene Costa would even agree, and could point out the mistakes Washington made.
It’s true about the degree part–certification.
So tell me about William Empson.
You know I don’t know a hell of a lot about him. But from what I remember he was quite a character and a scathing critic. I can’t stand poetry so I won’t comment on that as I wouldn’t have a clue.
No Franklin–no French.
No French–no victory at Yorktown.
No victory at Yorktown–no victory.
Grant’s memoirs? The hardest part of his military career–learning to write orders.
Grant + Empson=?
True enough though–Washington’s spelling is a piece of work.
You got it. If the French hadn’t come to our rescue we would have been done. However, I don’t know anything about the conection with Grant and Empson.
There’s a story in Patton’s memoirs that’s pertinent as well.
Ambiguity, among other things–when to avoid it, when to exploit it.
But that’s just scratching the surface.
Jefferson, despite Hamilton and Washington’s urging, wanted to have nothing to do with serving in the army.
Like Franklin and Adams and the rest–they would all of hanged, so it wasn’t lack of bravery.
He knew he was more valuable elsewhere.
He was right too.
Cheney, who married and reproduced to avoid serving in Vietnam, tried to make a similar argument about himself in later years, when he finally admitted he avoided the draft.
corr: “all have hanged”.
Rally hart tu void det ambidextriguity wen you doan eben no id eksists.
I mean, ah–just talk planes Anglish–you know what I mean.
Gee, Brad, wonder how hard it will be to understand some of this Hayden fella’s orders, you know?
I mean, I read one report about what he had to say about, you know, EYE-ran, and goshdarn–I had to pull out my Empson Ruger single action to get his drift.
Something about the Holy Trinity, was it?
You know once again you have lost me. I have no idea what the F your talking about. I guess that is what makes you so great! I’m sure you would make a great educator or leader when every one is sitting around thinking, what the hell is he talking about? Having a big brain is about as useless as tits on a nun if you can’t make yourself understood. talking over everyones head is just showing off. It accomplishes nothing. Your point will not be understood. The best minds in the world can be understood with the least amount of words. So if you would really like to make a point and not just show off your staggering intellect, try making your point in a way that the rest of us can understand. Seriously think about it, what is your point? To show off or to educate?
Peace!
Okay, Brad–the other two halves at work.
No rush. That AF fella probely doan no eyether.
Geezus H! What’s the Amerindian sign language for “cross fingers”?
Very likely NOT crossed fingers.
False friends in French and all that.
let bush send his own 2 daughters
It’s easy to see why the military is a perpetual adolescence. They go from living with mom and dad with food, clothing, and shelter provided. In the military, all this is still provided.
I think a similar thing happens with people who stay in college or grad school forever.
My experiences are similar to those of Brads. Except, mine were in the Marines.
I never understood why women would join the Marines. If they did, the only place for them should have been the admin sections. Our job was to go kill and break things. No need for more distractions within the units.
All this adolescence talk is bunk. The Marines are a reflection of society at large. I was 20 and in charge of 15 Marines, their trucks, their missions, and all their gear. My platoon sergeant was 23. So, pound sand folks.
“Give your daughter up to serve Uncle Sam. He’ll take real good care of her for you. And she’ll get money for college.” … I laughed good at that.
Keep up the good work Antiwar.com.
Why can other countries have women in their militaries without this bulls**t, but not us? And why the *hell* doesn’t one of these women shoot her rapist? You’re trained to kill, sister - fight back!
In general, women are the most oppressed group on the planet. Why shouldn’t they be able to serve in the military? Why are men always telling them who they can marry and how many children they should have? I’m sick and tired of cultures, especially in the Middle East, that promote the subjugation of women. Women account for over half the population of this planet but according to governments like Saudi Arabia, Iran, Syria, etc (all of which are controlled by men I might add) women should not have the right to vote or travel on their own. Their right to marry and procreate should be subject to the whims and caprice of their fathers, brothers, and husbands. In short, they are treated like property. Thankfully in America, Great Britain, and the rest of the civiilized world, most of us don’t think in such archaic, 7th century terms.
The position of women among some orthodox Jews, in practice and theory, is so seldom treated in the American press.
One can’t imagine why.
Is there a wig-maker in the house?
So too the position of women, again in practice and theory, among many fundamentalist Christian sects and similar groups, like the Latter Day Saints, presently and also in the old and new Testaments and through the ages in the “West”.
An interesting and useful phrase one hears never or very seldom used by certain people–”the Abrahamic religions”.
A comparative study may surprise some.
To Kate.
What makes you think that women in other cultures don’t suffer from the same bull? War is real and not some fictional place where ideals rule. I hear this all the time, if things were this or if things were that we could do this or that. However, that’s not the way things are. The facts are the facts and thats the way it is. Males are bigger, stronger, and ruled by the impulse to mate and control. Until we change this as a cultural whole women will be and are a distraction in the military.
We allow children to fight and have power over other children. Some of them girls. why don’t women fight back? For the obvious reasons I pointed out. Pressure from their peers. The thought of going to prison for life etc. It is the fault of our CULTURE that women cannot serve without being raped. However, you might be surprised to find out that much of the harassment that women in the military receive is dished out and instigated by their fellow women soldiers. It’s a shame we live in an culture that is as messed up as it is. However, until it changes it’s unrealistic to believe that things are other than what they are. Being realistic is better than being politically correct when it comes to life and death (and rape). So please all of you, save your idealism and political correctness for some time in the future when we live in a better society.
To Eugene.
I think I get where your coming from. I have thought about the draft issue many many times. When you have a voluntary military it’s very hard to get people to appose war. I seriously doubt if the Vietnam war (Sorry, I mean police action) would have ended as soon as it did if we had a volunteer force. The other issue of course is related to deferments and who gets them. As long as the elite can get out it won’t be a determent to starting wars just ending them sooner.
My opposition to the draft comes from a few points. First, I have three children that are draftable right now. So although it’s a personal reason it’s still there. The second reason is that I believe it is just another form of slavery. Furthermore, I don’t have enough faith or trust in our government to believe that they won’t continue their ridicules deferment policy, or that they care enough about the will of the people to base any of their decisions on what we care about. We would still end up with wars and my children would be forced into the worst type of slavery.
Raising the enlistment age to 31 sounds good to me. Actually I don’t quite understand why we need any offensive military when we have thousands of nukes for defense. A National Guard would suffice.
As for our half of brains, I’m actually glad we don’t agree on everything. What is the use of debating someone you agree with? What would I learn? The same goes for someone I am completely against. it’s very unlikely that either of us would change positions at all.
To Tim.
The reason that women cannot serve without the harassment they receive is that we are not nearly as far removed from the other cultures as you would like to make it seem. Someday we may be but unfortunately we are not yet there.
One last off topic comment. Although I didn’t respond to your comment about respect for the President (in one of the last blogs). I do get where your trying to say and I will think about it. I am guilty of slamming the President and I probably shouldn’t. Although I don’t agree with the people who elected Bush I should have respect for the office of the President and my fellow Americans who believed he was the best person for the office. It’s kind of like pissing on the flag. Although you have the right to do it you should also realize that is a hurtfull act to many people.
Peace!
Brad Smith,
Did I hear someone call for “respect for the President”? As in President Bush? As in destroyer of an ancient culture? As in murderer? As in war criminal? The hurtful act I want to see is is his conviction and execution at the Hague.
And I vote for showing him a little respect at the end - just like old time England - hang the SOB with a silk rope
I also agree that Bush is a war criminal and should be tried as such. However, Tim is right about the fact that demeaning the President with useless word calling also demeans your fellow Americans. Again it’s like pissing on the flag. It doesn’t do one damn bit of good and does inflict intentional emotional harm on many veterans our WWII vets in particular. If you want to lay out your case as to why Bush should be tried and by whom go for it, but name calling is pointless and that’s what I was talking about.
Peace!
If anyone cannot see what a criminal enterprise this Iraq invasion was, cannot realize that the whole damn Bush Administration went along with these Neocon liars, cannot feel a rising bile just from the mendacity and cowardice of our national media, and finally cannot feel a deep shame for personally not having done more to stop this crime against humanity; well then, they can just go to Hell as far as I am concerned; they are either too dumb or too corrupt to warrant any respect from me. Peace, my arse.
There comes a time when corruption is so systemic, ignorance is so tolerated, and mendacity is so rewarded that the only way to really get attention is to punch the Establishment right on its nose. Jesus, for all his meekness, kicked over the money changer’s tables - he didn’t bother to lay out “his reasons”. Americans needs a good hard knuckled punch in the nose - especially all of those patridiotic morons that voted for Bush not only once but twice. I am 65 and I swear that unless some of us get nasty with these Neocons and the suckers they con, we will lose this once wonderful country of ours.
Well Richard what is you have done about this problem? I hear an awful lot of talk but where are your solutions? Again I see all the blame being put on the neo-con hacks and no doubt they deserve much of the blame. However, I don’t see the Dems as being any better. You obviously have not read enough of my posts to realize that I am adamantly against war. I HATE war and the stench that comes with it and doesn’t go away even after you get back. I doubt if people who have not gone to combat ever truly realize how horrible it can be, not just when your there but also when you get back.
So if your truly anti-war why don’t you find something more productive to do than slamming a Vet? A Vet by the way who has who has overcome the brainwashing and actually speaks out against the war and not just on this site but also in public. also, thanks for using your sly way of wishing that my ignorant corrupt ass rots in hell, that really made me feel all worm and fuzzy.
“despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a cage”
And yes Peace! And I don’t much care about your arse.
Brad Smith,
1. I am a Viet-Nam War vet myself
2. I marched in all of the pre-invasion protests in Washington DC, donated money to every human rights or peace group that I knew of, spoke out to friends or acquaintances, and finally screamed/cursed at FOX News, etc. everyday (this last effort was not intended to be constreuctive; strictly for my own morale)
3. My solutions - get out in 60 days, leave the crap we brought on the ground (but disable the weapons), apologize to the World, pay massive reparations, turn Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz over to international courts, and (most usefully) inform our Israeli friends that we will no longer support their ethnic cleansing of Palestine.
4. I hardly consider my diatribes as “sly” - rather direct if I may so myself.
Sounds about right to me. However, I doubt they would be willing to leave behind billions of dollars worth of equipment for the world to poke their noses through. I agree we should be gone from there now if not yesterday. We marched our asses in we can march them right back out. Trust me I do understand the rage and frustration that comes from seeing so many people who just don’t get it and probably never will. However, preaching to the choir isn’t the answer and neither is attacking people who also believe in the anti-war movement. I think I will need to take my own advice and spend less time on this site and more on the neo-con sites trying to wake up the sheeple.
Peace!
No Franklin–no public libraries.
Goshdarn, how all those pipples wrote the Consitution get so edoocated?
Yes Eugene libraries are a great thing. In fact I doubt if even 1% of the people in the US read more than I do. I don’t watch TV other than for the history channel and once and a while to check on the idiots on FOX or my stocks. My bitch isn’t with learning it’s with indoctrination and useless spending.
My Grandfather who came here from Russia couldn’t read or write but he could speak 12 languages and died a millionaire at 101. My father’s father was a 7th generation American who came from money went to the University of Michigan and died a pauper. Educated Idiots are a dime a dozen. (by the way I’m not calling you an idiot, you actually seem to know your shit). It’s just that nowhere in my life have I seen that you can equate education with intelligence.
Peace!
Geezus H. them half-brains agree on quite a bit.
Gertrude Stein is well worth the effort.
Got dang, do I have to go dig up the quotation?
If you read it closely, she says “education” very likely doesn’t matter–er, after you get beyond it, hehe.
That sometimes takes some getting, especially for dumbasses.
Also children are little learning machines and what they learn is “education”, especially one to three.
So GS meant “formal education”.
K, hoose the beeg Kahoona rown hear?
“Permission to resume Pompous Ass, SIR!”
To Eugene
Well go ahead and resume. It seems that for tonight at least it’s all your good for (being a pompous ass). I don’t know if your a drunk or what, but you seem to loose your sense of balance after midnight. so, sober up and come back when you make sense.
Peace!
Toutes les pompeuses maisons
Des princes les plus adorables
Ne sont que de belles prisons,
Pleines d’illustres miserables!
Where’s my gotdang character set!
By the way, all these political rags, like Reason and such, bore the s**t out of me.
Raimondo is wasting time responding to someone like Welch, who is a two-bit smart ass with no education.
And Raimondo’s own fine analytical abilities for politics disintegrate when he descends to that level and wastes time with polemics.
Rothbard had the right gist in a lot of areas, but was a very sloppy thinker and a prisoner of his own limited world.
There–got that off my desk.
Hmmm, “Cavalcade of Chicanery” is good, and sufficiently comic by itself in an understated way. After Twain, when in doubt, strike it out. I am not sure about the “tragedy”, or whether being Euripedean and “tragi-comic” is worth jarring the rhythm in title and the hint of excess.
Certainly one sees the GIC-CHIC play, but titles should be short, and much more subtle might have been to highlight the “tragi-comic” with the “chicanery” in the body of the article, at or near the end perhaps.
Would have left an interesting echo perhaps in the reader’s mind.
As it stands, on the other hand, there is the hint of a Loony Tunes title, and that fits neatly in another direction.
At any rate, the article itself is excellent, as usual.
corr: “Euripides”. Louis Gottshalk used to repeat the same endlessly funny story to me (as a young man) about the Italian tailor who had studied classics and a pair of trousers Gottshalk had brought in to be mended–”Euripides?”
Merely, by the way, I must correct myself here. Though I knew him at the same time, it was not Louis Gottschalk who used to repeat the Euripedes joke, but a certain Professor Nicholson, one of his contemporaries.
Eugene Costa, how such a highly educated and intelligent person as yourself (at least you think so) can miss such an obvious point is amazing. I’m not saying that education is pointless just that education and ignorance are not mutually exclusive. You can be educated and an idiot at the same time. If can’t grasp such a simple point as that then you are just making my case for me.
Peace!
My dear fellow, I grasped that point, likely before you were born.
Apparently you think it is your discovery or some new communication on your part.
Close reading, my dear fellow.
That is also–with close hearing–what great poetry is for.
I might mention Isocrates or Quintilian were I in a good mood.
But the connection is not altogether graspable without hard work and an open mind, and I don’t have the time or inclination to explain “here”, wherever that may be.
My dear fellow. If you grasped that point why do you continue to behave the way you do? Your know it all style is good for one thing, making yourself feel better by belittling others. As for where is here? “here” is this billboard or blog. Where else would it be? In your mind? Again I am not impressed with your stunning vocabulary, I also doubt if many others are, with the exception of your fellow blowhard John Lowell of course. What exactly is the point of your obscure references if not to show off and belittle? Make your points without acting like an Ass and I’ll have a lot more respect for your ideas. Otherwise I and others will likely not get it or just think your a pompous fool.
“Believe” how or what?
The rest of what you say is hogwash.
You seem to be operating on the other half brain and it is not a pretty or encouraging sight.
Actually, what “here” is is a key question “here”, that you might grasp at some point if you set your mind to it.
Take your time.
What others might think is a “pompous fool” is your problem.
After cummings, “most people” don’t think at all. So why bother to worry about it?
We could be talking about Roller Derby or Professional Wrestling and somewhere Tim R. will find an opportunity to do some Arab bashing. Do you really think any of this is getting thru on a website like Antiwar.com, you idiot?? For heavens sake, you sound like Archie Bunker bashing “da Colored People”.
I really appreciate Scott Horton’s posting this article on the special horrors women face in the military, and, based on personal accounts I have been told, the number of women raped by fellow soldiers is probably much higher than reported.
Yes it’s obvious that Tim R. takes every possible opportunity to “do some Arab bashing” However, that doesn’t mean that everything he says is wrong. When you ask “Do you really think any of this is getting thru on a web site like Antiwar.com” you make me believe that the readers of Antiwar.com are so close minded and biased that they refuse to hear any point of view other than their own. If that’s the case, what is the point of even having a blog? Is it possible that Tim R. continues to point out the faults of the Arab states because no one else here has the guts to do it? Being completely anti-Israeli or anti-Arab is short sighted. The issues are not as black and white as most of the people on this site seem to think.
Peace!
Is it possible that Tim R. continues to point out the faults of the Arab states because no one else here has the guts to do it?
Highlighting the flaws of Arab states is redundant, since no one here is defending them and everyone knows what they are. It isn’t as though there’s a conspiracy of silence surrounding their depredations, though the same cannot be said of America’s Zionist auxiliary. He uses facts such as these as red herrings every time the topic of Israel comes up. The idea that it takes “guts” to denounce Arab states is, moreover, altogether risible. Criticizing Saudi Arabia and the like is about as edgy as retrospectively attacking the Soviet Union- no one’s going to savage you for fear of being labeled a sympathizer.
Actually on this site it is more edgy to denounce Arab states. I guess I grew up with the knowledge that Israel was an impending disaster. It’s not exactly new news to me that Israel and the Americans that are complicit with Zionism are leading us into endless wars in the Middle East and possibly the world. Rev. Hagee and his bunch are so disgusting that words alone won’t describe it.
However, I rarely see any evidence on this site that suggests that the Arab states are anything other than poor helpless victims. If it’s redundant to point out the crimes of the Arab states why isn’t it equally or more so redundant to continue harping on the crimes of Israel? Everyone or nearly everyone on this sell is well aware of the Zionist goals. Your simply preaching to the choir when you slam the obvious atrocities of the Israeli government.
Really? A few specific examples of this would not go amiss, since Saudi Arabia and Egypt have been skewered quite thoroughly in their capacities as US allies, Iran is not an Arab state, and Syria is seldom remarked upon.
If it’s redundant to point out the crimes of the Arab states why isn’t it equally or more so redundant to continue harping on the crimes of Israel?
The crimes of the Arab states are well-known to Americans and not denied by the media. Israel, on the other hand, is relentlessly cast as a bold bulwark of humans in the Middle East and a perpetual victim. It is therefore necessary to correct for these fabrications. It was likewise necessary to do the same with Mikhail Sakaashvili’s regime in Georgia.
Brad Smith writes:
“The issues are not as black and white as most of the people on this site seem to think.”
What a refreshing voice of reason! It is a pleasure to read your postings. I admit that I’m also guilty of seeing things in “black and white” sometimes and your posts are a breath of fresh air.
Now, if only you could apply this reasoning to your own one-sided tirades against Islam and the antiwar movement…
Which is why as patriotic and loyal Americans we should heed the advice of George Washington not to get involved in entangling alliances with any of these criminal regimes, no matter what religion or race.
Well said. Non-intervention is the way to go.
BRAD SMITH. Quit feeding the trolls.
So basically your saying stay off this site unless you agree with me 100 percent. Again I ask what is the point of having a blog if all the people on it agree with each other. Endlessly reinforcing each other might make you feel better (or at least more sure of yourself) but what’s the point?
Dude, I wasn’t calling YOU a troll, I was telling you to stop feeding trolls.
Naw, I think Weston is saying don’t legitamize someone who is not legitamite. He’s a propagandist with only one tune no matter what the lyrics are. Sort of like when Ed Norton on the Honeymooners kept playing the intro for Swannee River no matter what song he was supposed to be playing.
Good to see Mossad Tim R. is back and hating the Muslims while urging the stupid goy to fight Israel’s enemies for her..” Women should be allowed” to fight in these unjust modern wars where there’s never really a good side? These meat-grinders for profit and control of natural resources, pipelines and making the middle East safe for Israel?
That’s like saying people should be allowed to work for less than the min. wage..or prostitute themselves..or swim in raw sewage….Speaking of prostitution; all the zionists out there must be real proud of the way the Israelis lure e. European girls to Israel under false pretenses and then make the work as prostitutes-in places like Nazareth, Bethlehem, Jerusalem….
“There was an old woman who got great comfort from that blessed word Mesopotamia, and the derivation of it is “between two rivers”, between two meanings. The point of the joke, as I understand it, is to say that the effects of the word on her were “merely Emotive” because the senses of it were wholly confused. I should suspect that the old woman was giving the word some wrong meaning, or simply telling lies. But I don’t deny that the supposed process might occur in a softened brain; all I claim is that it does not account for the Regency argument about grammar.
[William Empson]
Now and again one has suspected a small misprint in this passage (1951 ed. var. repr.) but it is not really decisive for sense, and I have never bothered to pursue it.
Delete first quotation mark. Fowler’s false first person has its uses.
Now, exactly why are we going to attack Iran?
Will the price of gasoline go down in Israel as a result just like it did in America when we attacked Iraq? Yeah, right!
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/richard_silverstein/2008/04/israels_tehran_connection.html
Not only is immediate impeachment structurally necessary to preserve even the remnant of Constitutional government, it is also the obvious move to shortcircuit an attack on Iran.
Quite as important, it also points to a way out of Iraq.