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	<title>Comments on: Long WWII Tours Not an Issue?</title>
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		<title>By: Vassili</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/04/28/long-wwii-tours-not-an-issue/#comment-152604</link>
		<dc:creator>Vassili</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 11:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all today is May 9th, the greatest holiday in Russia, the V-day, the holiday that really defines the nation. It was a lethal attack attempt by the West, which was resolutely defeated. Which gives me (and majority of the people in the country the right to look into the future with optimism, and to be able to finally start benefiting from all the wealth that Russia had for centuries. Of course we wonder if the West would allow us another 25 years of peace to finally achieve the status of the 3rd Rome, and there will be no 4th.

So, WWII was NOT a far of choice to the USSR.

But it was for the US. There was no immediate threat, no invasion on US soil, no enemy tanks firing at the capital. Nothing even remotely close.

The reason why US actually got involved into the war was same kind of reason it always got itself into the wars - to prevent POTENTIAL threat from the USSR, since otherwise it would be POSSIBLE that USSR would have to take control over the whole Europe, after defeating the Germany.

On the other hand, judging by total lack of evidence that USSR, headed by Stalin was interested in controlling the whole Europe. Actually, looking into the past realities of the middle-end 20th century - that bipolar construction (like any bipartisan system) was rather stable and desirable. The World is now straggling to regain that level of distribution of World Power, for human World can not function properly with only one center of power. Period.

British Empire, represented by the US now, representing the ill spirit of Roman Empire is again (like 2000 years ago) trying to establish World Domination, the WWII was a result of UK/US actions which created the conflict between USSR and Germany. In reality there is no basis for such conflict. 

So not only that war was bona fide "war of choice" for the US, but it took active part in staging that very war. How disgusting - UK/US business - as usual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all today is May 9th, the greatest holiday in Russia, the V-day, the holiday that really defines the nation. It was a lethal attack attempt by the West, which was resolutely defeated. Which gives me (and majority of the people in the country the right to look into the future with optimism, and to be able to finally start benefiting from all the wealth that Russia had for centuries. Of course we wonder if the West would allow us another 25 years of peace to finally achieve the status of the 3rd Rome, and there will be no 4th.</p>
<p>So, WWII was NOT a far of choice to the USSR.</p>
<p>But it was for the US. There was no immediate threat, no invasion on US soil, no enemy tanks firing at the capital. Nothing even remotely close.</p>
<p>The reason why US actually got involved into the war was same kind of reason it always got itself into the wars - to prevent POTENTIAL threat from the USSR, since otherwise it would be POSSIBLE that USSR would have to take control over the whole Europe, after defeating the Germany.</p>
<p>On the other hand, judging by total lack of evidence that USSR, headed by Stalin was interested in controlling the whole Europe. Actually, looking into the past realities of the middle-end 20th century - that bipolar construction (like any bipartisan system) was rather stable and desirable. The World is now straggling to regain that level of distribution of World Power, for human World can not function properly with only one center of power. Period.</p>
<p>British Empire, represented by the US now, representing the ill spirit of Roman Empire is again (like 2000 years ago) trying to establish World Domination, the WWII was a result of UK/US actions which created the conflict between USSR and Germany. In reality there is no basis for such conflict. </p>
<p>So not only that war was bona fide &#8220;war of choice&#8221; for the US, but it took active part in staging that very war. How disgusting - UK/US business - as usual.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill K.</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/04/28/long-wwii-tours-not-an-issue/#comment-151678</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 00:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are on the receiving end of an Invasion you better make those choices quickly or else somebody will make them for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are on the receiving end of an Invasion you better make those choices quickly or else somebody will make them for you.</p>
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		<title>By: DetainThis</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/04/28/long-wwii-tours-not-an-issue/#comment-151364</link>
		<dc:creator>DetainThis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 15:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's too bad that much of what the U.S. Department of Education [&lt;i&gt;sic&lt;/i&gt;] pushes about U.S. wars—especially the Civil War (aka, War against Secession), WWI, and WWII (aka, Wilson War II)—is state-worshiping fraud. Of course this is only natural, seeing as how "[m]ost mainstream history texts are nothing more than &lt;a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/tennant/tennant27.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;authorized biographies of government&lt;/a&gt;." In reality, the presidents most admired by mainstream pundits, scholars, and everyday people—namely Lincoln, Wilson, and FDR—were all tyrants who willingly, happily decimated the Constitution and waged unnecessary war. They were as barbaric as their enemy counterparts, and in some cases they were worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s too bad that much of what the U.S. Department of Education [<i>sic</i>] pushes about U.S. wars—especially the Civil War (aka, War against Secession), WWI, and WWII (aka, Wilson War II)—is state-worshiping fraud. Of course this is only natural, seeing as how &#8220;[m]ost mainstream history texts are nothing more than <a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/tennant/tennant27.html" rel="nofollow">authorized biographies of government</a>.&#8221; In reality, the presidents most admired by mainstream pundits, scholars, and everyday people—namely Lincoln, Wilson, and FDR—were all tyrants who willingly, happily decimated the Constitution and waged unnecessary war. They were as barbaric as their enemy counterparts, and in some cases they were worse.</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/04/28/long-wwii-tours-not-an-issue/#comment-151241</link>
		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 23:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey mate!!

I respect what you say most times but, DON'T KNOCK OUR VEGEMITE OK

JC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey mate!!</p>
<p>I respect what you say most times but, DON&#8217;T KNOCK OUR VEGEMITE OK</p>
<p>JC</p>
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		<title>By: R. Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>R. Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probably that's what Henderson meant--that people, not chunks of land, make sacrifices.  But as previously noted, "nation" usually means people or a community of people, so Eland's use of the word is still justifiable.

Henderson's criticism would be stronger had Eland used "country" instead, which does connote geography to some extent.  This is all a trivial point, but it was Henderson who brought it up  as a point of clarification.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably that&#8217;s what Henderson meant&#8211;that people, not chunks of land, make sacrifices.  But as previously noted, &#8220;nation&#8221; usually means people or a community of people, so Eland&#8217;s use of the word is still justifiable.</p>
<p>Henderson&#8217;s criticism would be stronger had Eland used &#8220;country&#8221; instead, which does connote geography to some extent.  This is all a trivial point, but it was Henderson who brought it up  as a point of clarification.</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/04/28/long-wwii-tours-not-an-issue/#comment-151111</link>
		<dc:creator>Graeme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 05:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"A nation is not an organic entity in and of itself that thinks and acts with a single mind and a single organic body. It’s a geographical territory inhabited by individual human beings–in the case of the USA, hundreds of millions of human beings."

Yes, though nations need not be confined to a single geographic territory (Jews, Kurds), and some territories are home to many nations (Russia, China).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A nation is not an organic entity in and of itself that thinks and acts with a single mind and a single organic body. It’s a geographical territory inhabited by individual human beings–in the case of the USA, hundreds of millions of human beings.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, though nations need not be confined to a single geographic territory (Jews, Kurds), and some territories are home to many nations (Russia, China).</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Costa</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/04/28/long-wwii-tours-not-an-issue/#comment-151101</link>
		<dc:creator>Eugene Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 01:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last stage of Anglophone Captitalism perhaps--eat vegemite or die:

http://www.afactor.net/hcf/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last stage of Anglophone Captitalism perhaps&#8211;eat vegemite or die:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.afactor.net/hcf/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.afactor.net/hcf/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Costa</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/04/28/long-wwii-tours-not-an-issue/#comment-151096</link>
		<dc:creator>Eugene Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hehe==corr: "no one"--still. One of those days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehe==corr: &#8220;no one&#8221;&#8211;still. One of those days.</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Costa</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/04/28/long-wwii-tours-not-an-issue/#comment-151095</link>
		<dc:creator>Eugene Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There we go. What is it about an edit function that seems to so elusive on a site such as antiwar?

Many graphic sites, including a number of fly-by-nights, otherwise not known for their veneration of accuracy in posted text, have them in their comment boxes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There we go. What is it about an edit function that seems to so elusive on a site such as antiwar?</p>
<p>Many graphic sites, including a number of fly-by-nights, otherwise not known for their veneration of accuracy in posted text, have them in their comment boxes.</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Costa</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/04/28/long-wwii-tours-not-an-issue/#comment-151094</link>
		<dc:creator>Eugene Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hobson’s choice hinges on a hierarchic ambiguity, open to much sophistry and especially popular, as above, among Anglophiles and those with a perverse and supposedly “Christian” cryptotype to peddle. Sartre dealt with another aspect, almost as clumsily.

To say that there is no “choice” among horses in the stable is a different use of “choice” from that between renting what is available or not renting.

The latter has nothing necessarily to do with the particular horse next to the door.

To rent from Hobson, indeed, is not to rent a horse, but to accept Hobson’s functor, in which something that may or may not qualify, from the point of view of the renter, as a suitable “horse” is available.

It is a pity no has pursued the image in the larger economic context. It explains a lot about mass production, advertising, and American “market capitalism”, especially recently, wherein the menu is increasingly made available as the meal, while becoming, structurally and at the same time, all that is readily available.

The organizing image is cunning if also very banal.

Depending on the horse at the door, for example, one might quite sensibly ask whether it might not be better sense to make Hobson an offer he can’t refuse, to wit, half his horse–front or rear.

At any rate, it is instructive to see the sad state of logic and language among those so readily accorded the label “psychologist” nowadays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hobson’s choice hinges on a hierarchic ambiguity, open to much sophistry and especially popular, as above, among Anglophiles and those with a perverse and supposedly “Christian” cryptotype to peddle. Sartre dealt with another aspect, almost as clumsily.</p>
<p>To say that there is no “choice” among horses in the stable is a different use of “choice” from that between renting what is available or not renting.</p>
<p>The latter has nothing necessarily to do with the particular horse next to the door.</p>
<p>To rent from Hobson, indeed, is not to rent a horse, but to accept Hobson’s functor, in which something that may or may not qualify, from the point of view of the renter, as a suitable “horse” is available.</p>
<p>It is a pity no has pursued the image in the larger economic context. It explains a lot about mass production, advertising, and American “market capitalism”, especially recently, wherein the menu is increasingly made available as the meal, while becoming, structurally and at the same time, all that is readily available.</p>
<p>The organizing image is cunning if also very banal.</p>
<p>Depending on the horse at the door, for example, one might quite sensibly ask whether it might not be better sense to make Hobson an offer he can’t refuse, to wit, half his horse–front or rear.</p>
<p>At any rate, it is instructive to see the sad state of logic and language among those so readily accorded the label “psychologist” nowadays.</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Costa</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/04/28/long-wwii-tours-not-an-issue/#comment-151092</link>
		<dc:creator>Eugene Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>corr: "increasingly".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>corr: &#8220;increasingly&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Costa</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/04/28/long-wwii-tours-not-an-issue/#comment-151091</link>
		<dc:creator>Eugene Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>corr:"it is a pity no one"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>corr:&#8221;it is a pity no one&#8221;</p>
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