Comments on: Good Morning Vietnam, Now With Adsense http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/05/04/good-morning-vietnam-now-with-adsense/ Sun, 6 Jul 2008 00:09:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: ex101grunt http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/05/04/good-morning-vietnam-now-with-adsense/#comment-152609 ex101grunt Fri, 09 May 2008 15:45:47 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4306#comment-152609 Hey Voodoo South~ What job are the soldiers doing again exactly?? Empire expansion. Nothing to do at all with preserving nor promoting anyones freedoms. Wake up. Hey Voodoo South~

What job are the soldiers doing again exactly??
Empire expansion. Nothing to do at all with preserving nor promoting anyones freedoms.
Wake up.

]]> By: peace http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/05/04/good-morning-vietnam-now-with-adsense/#comment-152571 peace Thu, 08 May 2008 20:39:20 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4306#comment-152571 Love you guys. Love you guys.

]]> By: Eugene Costa http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/05/04/good-morning-vietnam-now-with-adsense/#comment-152565 Eugene Costa Thu, 08 May 2008 18:42:08 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4306#comment-152565 Copy of an e-mail sent to Robyn Blumner, whose Military Makes Mincemeat of Church-State Separation (Commondreams.org) was featured on the anti-war front page: <i>Ms. Blumner: Thank you for an important article on the "evangelization" of the US military. Such harassment is not only unconstitutional but a very serious threat, particularly in terms of the current United States' Crusade against Muslim "Infidels". One aspect of the same process is equally troubling. The now ironically named Liberty University, purchased and fundamentalized by Jerry Falwell, is now, apparently, quite systematically encouraging some of its most enthusiastic products to join the military as officers, in an effort further to proselytize to and evangelize the whole military establishment through the officer corps. In the case of Liberty this is a program complementary to giving scholarships to fundamentalists to attend its law school, who then repay the favor by working on legal cases considered central to the religious programs promulgated. There is nothing overly unconstitutional about the latter activity, but the deliberate evangelization of the military expressed in such tactics as you chronicle is, I think, a very serious threat and merits close watching. I would be very interested in any further reporting you do on the evangelical-military nexus, whether in relation to Liberty, or, quite as pressing, other fundamentalist colleges and universities with similar programs. Thank you again for an important article. Sincerely, Eugene A. Costa</i> Copy of an e-mail sent to Robyn Blumner, whose Military Makes Mincemeat of Church-State Separation (Commondreams.org) was featured on the anti-war front page:

Ms. Blumner:

Thank you for an important article on the “evangelization” of the US military.

Such harassment is not only unconstitutional but a very serious threat, particularly in terms of the current United States’ Crusade against Muslim “Infidels”.

One aspect of the same process is equally troubling. The now ironically named Liberty University, purchased and fundamentalized by Jerry Falwell, is now, apparently, quite systematically encouraging some of its most enthusiastic products to join the military as officers, in an effort further to proselytize to and evangelize the whole military establishment through the officer corps.

In the case of Liberty this is a program complementary to giving scholarships to fundamentalists to attend its law school, who then repay the favor by working on legal cases considered central to the religious programs promulgated.

There is nothing overly unconstitutional about the latter activity, but the deliberate evangelization of the military expressed in such tactics as you chronicle is, I think, a very serious threat and merits close watching.

I would be very interested in any further reporting you do on the evangelical-military nexus, whether in relation to Liberty, or, quite as pressing, other fundamentalist colleges and universities with similar programs.

Thank you again for an important article.

Sincerely,

Eugene A. Costa

]]> By: Eugene Costa http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/05/04/good-morning-vietnam-now-with-adsense/#comment-152542 Eugene Costa Thu, 08 May 2008 05:58:00 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4306#comment-152542 <i>Yhe Oxford English Dictionary dates the use of "puce" (in couleur puce) from 1775. The word comes from French; puce literally means "flea", as the usual flea coloration is either dark reddish-brown or dark purplish-brown. According to available sources, the etymology of "puce" is French "puce" from Old French "pulce", from Latin "pulic-", "pulex". In 2007, a survey of 6,000 American households found that puce was judged to be the second "ugliest" color, slightly behind brown.</i> [wikipedia]. Sturmabteilung as Puceshirts? Sounds a lot like Blackwater. While the National Guard the Army are away, mercenaries and private contractors will play. Note also that Liberty University, ironically named, which is now Jerry Falwell's joint and legacy, is systematically and openly training and encouraging its young Christian ideologues to go to OCS after college and join the Marine Officer Corps and such, as conscious and deliberate effort to "evangelize" the military. This is not only unconstitutional in drift but extremely dangerous. Liberty is also giving out financial aid to fundamentalists to go to its Law School and when they graduate and become members of the bar they work on cases important to the Fundies. It is a dangerous blind spot to think this is not a systematic and coordinated grand plan over decades, coordinated by the Zionist Evangelicals and the Neo-Cons, to turn the whole country into a Fascist Christian Zionist state in stages. Bush is just the middle stage, and the Crusade against the infidels in the Middle East is a key part of it. The secular Corporate Fascists are only too willing to cooperate for reasons of greed and profit. Madison is turning over in his grave. Structurally the second most important measure after impeaching Cheney immediately is to get rid of Bush's faith-based initiatives (Scalia and the Supremes naturally found them just peachy constitutionally) which are funding the Right Wing political machine. Though Reagan himself was not part of it, looking back his most deleterious act was surely to give the Fundamentalist Christians and Rove and such a real taste of political success. They have been voracious for more and more ever since. At best this is about fifteen percent of the population, but besides being lunatics, they also are highly organized beneath the radar screen of the rest of the incompetent politicos, and they have bottomless funds from the detente with the Zionists and Neo-Cons. Hagee getting behind McCain is only the tip of the ice berg. Yhe Oxford English Dictionary dates the use of “puce” (in couleur puce) from 1775. The word comes from French; puce literally means “flea”, as the usual flea coloration is either dark reddish-brown or dark purplish-brown.

According to available sources, the etymology of “puce” is French “puce” from Old French “pulce”, from Latin “pulic-”, “pulex”.

In 2007, a survey of 6,000 American households found that puce was judged to be the second “ugliest” color, slightly behind brown.

[wikipedia].

Sturmabteilung as Puceshirts? Sounds a lot like Blackwater.

While the National Guard the Army are away, mercenaries and private contractors will play.

Note also that Liberty University, ironically named, which is now Jerry Falwell’s joint and legacy, is systematically and openly training and encouraging its young Christian ideologues to go to OCS after college and join the Marine Officer Corps and such, as conscious and deliberate effort to “evangelize” the military.

This is not only unconstitutional in drift but extremely dangerous.

Liberty is also giving out financial aid to fundamentalists to go to its Law School and when they graduate and become members of the bar they work on cases important to the Fundies.

It is a dangerous blind spot to think this is not a systematic and coordinated grand plan over decades, coordinated by the Zionist Evangelicals and the Neo-Cons, to turn the whole country into a Fascist Christian Zionist state in stages.

Bush is just the middle stage, and the Crusade against the infidels in the Middle East is a key part of it.

The secular Corporate Fascists are only too willing to cooperate for reasons of greed and profit.

Madison is turning over in his grave.

Structurally the second most important measure after impeaching Cheney immediately is to get rid of Bush’s faith-based initiatives (Scalia and the Supremes naturally found them just peachy constitutionally) which are funding the Right Wing political machine.

Though Reagan himself was not part of it, looking back his most deleterious act was surely to give the Fundamentalist Christians and Rove and such a real taste of political success.

They have been voracious for more and more ever since.

At best this is about fifteen percent of the population, but besides being lunatics, they also are highly organized beneath the radar screen of the rest of the incompetent politicos, and they have bottomless funds from the detente with the Zionists and Neo-Cons.

Hagee getting behind McCain is only the tip of the ice berg.

]]> By: Eugene Costa http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/05/04/good-morning-vietnam-now-with-adsense/#comment-152541 Eugene Costa Thu, 08 May 2008 05:49:54 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4306#comment-152541 The superiority of "our culture"? Ah, as Napoleon is said to have said then, "Stupidity is invincible!" The superiority of “our culture”?

Ah, as Napoleon is said to have said then, “Stupidity is invincible!”

]]> By: Vaughn Treude http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/05/04/good-morning-vietnam-now-with-adsense/#comment-152540 Vaughn Treude Thu, 08 May 2008 05:41:32 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4306#comment-152540 Just a guess, but most of the gullible 30% or so of Americans who still support this misbegotten war seem to think it's part of some kind of struggle against radical Islam. Let's see, how many reasons can I list to prove that this is total and complete BS? 1. We toppled a secular regime that _opposed_ Al Qaeda 2. We have close ties with the granddaddy of all the Islamofascists, Saudi Arabia. 3. We don't seem to give a hoot about Christians and other ethnic and minorities in Iraq being chased out or murdered. 4. We didn't raise a finger in protest when Muslim Indonesia invaded Christian East Timor, until half a million people had been murdered 5. We didn't try to prevent Sudanese Christians and animists from being sold into slavery by Muslims. (We only noticed when they attacked their fellow Muslims in Darfur!) 6. We helped set up Bosnia and Kosovo as havens for Islamic terrorists 7. We armed the Afghan mujaheddin, who later showed their gratitude by supporting an attack on the US. 8. We support those child-murdering monsters, the Islamic Chechen separatist terrorists 9. We don't worry about nukes in the hands of an oppressive Islamic regime in Pakistan. 10. Our own moronic President states that "Islam is a religion of Peace." None of this is to say that radical Islam, as obnoxious as it is, is any serious threat to the West, if we're willing to acknolwedge the superiority of our culture, and defend our rights within our own borders. Any country stupid enough to institute Sharia law is inevitably dragged back to the stone age. Just a guess, but most of the gullible 30% or so of Americans who still support this misbegotten war seem to think it’s part of some kind of struggle against radical Islam. Let’s see, how many reasons can I list to prove that this is total and complete BS?
1. We toppled a secular regime that _opposed_ Al Qaeda
2. We have close ties with the granddaddy of all the Islamofascists, Saudi Arabia.
3. We don’t seem to give a hoot about Christians and other ethnic and minorities in Iraq being chased out or murdered.
4. We didn’t raise a finger in protest when Muslim Indonesia invaded Christian East Timor, until half a million people had been murdered
5. We didn’t try to prevent Sudanese Christians and animists from being sold into slavery by Muslims. (We only noticed when they attacked their fellow Muslims in Darfur!)
6. We helped set up Bosnia and Kosovo as havens for Islamic terrorists
7. We armed the Afghan mujaheddin, who later showed their gratitude by supporting an attack on the US.
8. We support those child-murdering monsters, the Islamic Chechen separatist terrorists
9. We don’t worry about nukes in the hands of an oppressive Islamic regime in Pakistan.
10. Our own moronic President states that “Islam is a religion of Peace.”

None of this is to say that radical Islam, as obnoxious as it is, is any serious threat to the West, if we’re willing to acknolwedge the superiority of our culture, and defend our rights within our own borders. Any country stupid enough to institute Sharia law is inevitably dragged back to the stone age.

]]> By: voodoo south http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/05/04/good-morning-vietnam-now-with-adsense/#comment-152520 voodoo south Wed, 07 May 2008 21:52:59 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4306#comment-152520 If u are a traitor or someone who speads lies about our military and why they are doing the jobs they then by all means... bring on the waterboard! But hey if all of you have all the answers the my all means go live with the terrorist. If u are a traitor or someone who speads lies about our military and why they are doing the jobs they then by all means… bring on the waterboard!
But hey if all of you have all the answers the my all means go live with the terrorist.

]]> By: Paul http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/05/04/good-morning-vietnam-now-with-adsense/#comment-152511 Paul Wed, 07 May 2008 17:07:04 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4306#comment-152511 Hello, A free press is essential to protecting the rights of the people. Those who participate must often take abuse. As a fellow citizen I find this friendly fire saddening. The right to a free press and free speech is part of our way of life. The biggest reason to hide truths is to protect criminal activities, as history shows again and again. The reason why we are hostile towards the Iraqis and Afghans is a secret. So those threatening to explain it never do. Hello,
A free press is essential to protecting the rights of the people. Those who participate must often take abuse. As a fellow citizen I find this friendly fire saddening. The right to a free press and free speech is part of our way of life. The biggest reason to hide truths is to protect criminal activities, as history shows again and again.

The reason why we are hostile towards the Iraqis and Afghans is a secret. So those threatening to explain it never do.

]]> By: Swami Barmi http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/05/04/good-morning-vietnam-now-with-adsense/#comment-152510 Swami Barmi Wed, 07 May 2008 16:18:59 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4306#comment-152510 "God forbid you support the troops that enable you to sit and type all ur lil grips." Rarely is stupidity on such proud parade as with comments like this. These scattered groups who fight just well enough to keep our troops busy in their neighborhood are apparently the people who would be flocking across the oceans like boat people, invading our country on foot and taking away our freedoms. It's about as brilliant an alternative future analysis as those that say we would be speaking German if we didn't enter WWII, because the German army, while not being able to cross the English Channel to conquer England would have crossed the Atlantic to conquer America. "Lord knows we dont want anyone knowing that the ones who protest against our country and military are the ones who are to afraid to acctually go fight for it and the rights we take for granted." And you're not there because... "Shut your mouth and let" people with brains do their jobs. “God forbid you support the troops that enable you to sit and type all ur lil grips.”

Rarely is stupidity on such proud parade as with comments like this. These scattered groups who fight just well enough to keep our troops busy in their neighborhood are apparently the people who would be flocking across the oceans like boat people, invading our country on foot and taking away our freedoms. It’s about as brilliant an alternative future analysis as those that say we would be speaking German if we didn’t enter WWII, because the German army, while not being able to cross the English Channel to conquer England would have crossed the Atlantic to conquer America.

“Lord knows we dont want anyone knowing that the ones who protest against our country and military are the ones who are to afraid to acctually go fight for it and the rights we take for granted.”

And you’re not there because…

“Shut your mouth and let” people with brains do their jobs.

]]> By: Patrick O'Connor http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/05/04/good-morning-vietnam-now-with-adsense/#comment-152479 Patrick O'Connor Wed, 07 May 2008 06:01:16 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4306#comment-152479 After reading some of the comments made here, the Alert Level has been raised from "Crypto fascism" magenta to "Proto fascism" puce. After reading some of the comments made here, the Alert Level has been raised from “Crypto fascism” magenta to “Proto fascism” puce.

]]> By: Eugene Costa http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/05/04/good-morning-vietnam-now-with-adsense/#comment-152446 Eugene Costa Tue, 06 May 2008 23:58:27 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4306#comment-152446 Yall have a nice day now, sport. Yall have a nice day now, sport.

]]> By: Eugene Costa http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/05/04/good-morning-vietnam-now-with-adsense/#comment-152444 Eugene Costa Tue, 06 May 2008 23:52:12 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4306#comment-152444 <i>"You're either with us or against us in the fight against terror."</i> George W. Bush November 6, 2001 Jeezus B. Jeezus! Lack oil them intemiddleate possumbilities jes' gwine teh waist tweeen there! Okay lemmee see--Support the War & Support the Troops & Support the Country & Support the Bush; Not support the War, Support the Troops...aw shucks--it begins to grow on you after awhile. “You’re either with us or against us in the fight against terror.”

George W. Bush November 6, 2001

Jeezus B. Jeezus! Lack oil them intemiddleate possumbilities jes’ gwine teh waist tweeen there!

Okay lemmee see–Support the War & Support the Troops & Support the Country & Support the Bush; Not support the War, Support the Troops…aw shucks–it begins to grow on you after awhile.

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