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	<title>Comments on: Antiwar Republican Walter Jones (NC) Wins Primary Challenge</title>
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		<title>By: A. G. Phillbin</title>
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		<dc:creator>A. G. Phillbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 21:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>correction: as s/b ask</description>
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		<title>By: A. G. Phillbin</title>
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		<dc:creator>A. G. Phillbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 20:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say I agree with your cynicism on this matter. But let me as you -- do you see the failure of the Ron Paul campaign as a failure of nerve, a failure of ideology, or a failure of intent?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say I agree with your cynicism on this matter. But let me as you &#8212; do you see the failure of the Ron Paul campaign as a failure of nerve, a failure of ideology, or a failure of intent?</p>
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		<title>By: A. G. Phillbin</title>
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		<dc:creator>A. G. Phillbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 20:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One final example of idiocy of the LGF denizen is it&#039;s rather silly tendency to remove things from there context and attack them, as if this is somehow a demonstration of cleverness and mental skill. It is in fact the only skill it has, and it is an essentially worthless one. But as can be seen, there is no logic in this particular case. Obviously, my saying that I don&#039;t consider getting high a terrible thing hardly means that it&#039;s a &quot;priority.&quot; In fact, it doesn&#039;t even imply that I ever get high - not that that would be a bad thing. And of course, we know that the specimen in question probably never gets high, except when giggling uncontrollably at the incredibly stupid things it writes, and when it downs a few beers. Downing beers is probably an activity that it doesn&#039;t even recognize as &quot;getting high,&quot; since it is entirely legal. When a specimen of this type has been verbally deflated, lame retorts such as this are truly all that should be expected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One final example of idiocy of the LGF denizen is it&#8217;s rather silly tendency to remove things from there context and attack them, as if this is somehow a demonstration of cleverness and mental skill. It is in fact the only skill it has, and it is an essentially worthless one. But as can be seen, there is no logic in this particular case. Obviously, my saying that I don&#8217;t consider getting high a terrible thing hardly means that it&#8217;s a &#8220;priority.&#8221; In fact, it doesn&#8217;t even imply that I ever get high &#8211; not that that would be a bad thing. And of course, we know that the specimen in question probably never gets high, except when giggling uncontrollably at the incredibly stupid things it writes, and when it downs a few beers. Downing beers is probably an activity that it doesn&#8217;t even recognize as &#8220;getting high,&#8221; since it is entirely legal. When a specimen of this type has been verbally deflated, lame retorts such as this are truly all that should be expected.</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Costa</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/05/06/antiwar-republican-walter-jones-nc-winning-primary-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-152827</link>
		<dc:creator>Eugene Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 20:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prodigal virtue, hehe. Welcome the idiot back and make him a hero. It&#039;s all so, so &quot;Old Testament&quot;, hoho.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prodigal virtue, hehe. Welcome the idiot back and make him a hero. It&#8217;s all so, so &#8220;Old Testament&#8221;, hoho.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 11:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>G,

From your post above.

“getting high,” as if 1) that was a terrible thing,


I rest my case, we now know what your priorities in life are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G,</p>
<p>From your post above.</p>
<p>“getting high,” as if 1) that was a terrible thing,</p>
<p>I rest my case, we now know what your priorities in life are.</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Costa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eugene Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 10:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are talking of weathervanes. Politicians who go whichever the wind blows are useful, mainly as signs. Indeed, the more gifted and early and sensitive in their opportunism, the more useful they are as signs.

What is Jones a sign of?  That Bush and Cheney and the war in Iraq is extremely unpopular and against the will and consent of the majority of his district.

That suggests that his constituents are considerably more penetrating than he is, as indeed the voters who put the Democrats in to stop the war and bridle or impeach Bush and Cheney are more intelligent than the milquetoasts and double-dealers they voted in.

Actually that&#039;s no big surprise, for only someone who is not the sharpest knife in the drawer and was lost in the stupidity of the moment could have supported the &quot;Freedom Fries&quot; folly in the first place.

What do you want-- a medal and a pat on the back?

Having sponsored that nonsense, in what he now admits was the wrong direction, why is he not in the forefront of impeachment efforts?

If Jones has converted to &quot;antiwar&quot;--all well and good. Will he convert back to Democrat soon enough? To be frank, I could care less. Congratulations, Mr. Jones, you have established yourself as a useful litmus test of what is popular and unpopular, which indeed is part of your job.

Now what--going on the lecture circuit with your mea culpa like an ex-heroin addict who is a centerpiece of the anti-(illegal)Drug Crusade?

Another aspect of your job is to defend the Constitution, which requires a bit more than being a cock of the walk revolving in the wind on the roof of the barn.

The central fact is that criminals occupy the Presidency and Vice Presidency, criminals who have led the United States into military, foreign policy, and economic disaster, while at the same time mangling the US Constitution almost beyond recognition.

Moreover, they are doing and can do even more damage even in the few short months of their terms of office.

Congress has been reduced to a rubber stamp constitutionally. Who cares what your views of the war, or anything else, are unless you act on them?

For that there remains only one constitutional remedy: impeachment.

Whether you or Paul or Jones or other supposed anti-Neo-Con &quot;conservatives&quot; see it or not, what is at stake right now is the last remnant of Constitutional government.

That is the heart of the matter and suddenly becoming &quot;antiwar&quot;, and running on that, means nothing unless impeachment is acted upon quickly.

Otherwise, as with Paul, it is no more than hypocrisy and a convenient pose in a stage play that is no more than empty form.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are talking of weathervanes. Politicians who go whichever the wind blows are useful, mainly as signs. Indeed, the more gifted and early and sensitive in their opportunism, the more useful they are as signs.</p>
<p>What is Jones a sign of?  That Bush and Cheney and the war in Iraq is extremely unpopular and against the will and consent of the majority of his district.</p>
<p>That suggests that his constituents are considerably more penetrating than he is, as indeed the voters who put the Democrats in to stop the war and bridle or impeach Bush and Cheney are more intelligent than the milquetoasts and double-dealers they voted in.</p>
<p>Actually that&#8217;s no big surprise, for only someone who is not the sharpest knife in the drawer and was lost in the stupidity of the moment could have supported the &#8220;Freedom Fries&#8221; folly in the first place.</p>
<p>What do you want&#8211; a medal and a pat on the back?</p>
<p>Having sponsored that nonsense, in what he now admits was the wrong direction, why is he not in the forefront of impeachment efforts?</p>
<p>If Jones has converted to &#8220;antiwar&#8221;&#8211;all well and good. Will he convert back to Democrat soon enough? To be frank, I could care less. Congratulations, Mr. Jones, you have established yourself as a useful litmus test of what is popular and unpopular, which indeed is part of your job.</p>
<p>Now what&#8211;going on the lecture circuit with your mea culpa like an ex-heroin addict who is a centerpiece of the anti-(illegal)Drug Crusade?</p>
<p>Another aspect of your job is to defend the Constitution, which requires a bit more than being a cock of the walk revolving in the wind on the roof of the barn.</p>
<p>The central fact is that criminals occupy the Presidency and Vice Presidency, criminals who have led the United States into military, foreign policy, and economic disaster, while at the same time mangling the US Constitution almost beyond recognition.</p>
<p>Moreover, they are doing and can do even more damage even in the few short months of their terms of office.</p>
<p>Congress has been reduced to a rubber stamp constitutionally. Who cares what your views of the war, or anything else, are unless you act on them?</p>
<p>For that there remains only one constitutional remedy: impeachment.</p>
<p>Whether you or Paul or Jones or other supposed anti-Neo-Con &#8220;conservatives&#8221; see it or not, what is at stake right now is the last remnant of Constitutional government.</p>
<p>That is the heart of the matter and suddenly becoming &#8220;antiwar&#8221;, and running on that, means nothing unless impeachment is acted upon quickly.</p>
<p>Otherwise, as with Paul, it is no more than hypocrisy and a convenient pose in a stage play that is no more than empty form.</p>
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		<title>By: A. G. Phillbin</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/05/06/antiwar-republican-walter-jones-nc-winning-primary-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-152767</link>
		<dc:creator>A. G. Phillbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 03:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note now the aggrieved tone coming from this LGF fantasist. He actually thinks that anything he shows me will be believed to be authentic, and whines about how he &quot;actually work(s) for a living,&quot; as if the person he is addressing doesn&#039;t. Note also that I never said he didn&#039;t work for a living, he simply assumed I did. He also yammers on about my &quot;getting high,&quot; as if 1) that was a terrible thing, &amp; 2) that he knows anything about my personal habits. One should also note, from his earlier posting, an adolescent fixation on people&#039;s presumed sexual habits. As for his 2 children, if they exist, i pity them if they are being raised by this clown -- he should have the decency to put them up for adoption. He also still assumes that I have &quot;liberal views,&quot; in spite of my firearms possession and never having voted Democrat. He doesn&#039;t actually know my views, it&#039;s just an excuse for him to cop a belligerent attitude, in the manner of an angry 12 year old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note now the aggrieved tone coming from this LGF fantasist. He actually thinks that anything he shows me will be believed to be authentic, and whines about how he &#8220;actually work(s) for a living,&#8221; as if the person he is addressing doesn&#8217;t. Note also that I never said he didn&#8217;t work for a living, he simply assumed I did. He also yammers on about my &#8220;getting high,&#8221; as if 1) that was a terrible thing, &amp; 2) that he knows anything about my personal habits. One should also note, from his earlier posting, an adolescent fixation on people&#8217;s presumed sexual habits. As for his 2 children, if they exist, i pity them if they are being raised by this clown &#8212; he should have the decency to put them up for adoption. He also still assumes that I have &#8220;liberal views,&#8221; in spite of my firearms possession and never having voted Democrat. He doesn&#8217;t actually know my views, it&#8217;s just an excuse for him to cop a belligerent attitude, in the manner of an angry 12 year old.</p>
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		<title>By: Glaivester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glaivester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 00:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Eugene Costa is missing the point here.  The point is that the neocons were not able to unseat Jones in the primary.  If you think that the Democrat who runs against him in the fall  (assuming there is one, I don&#039;t know much about his district) would be a better candidate to support, that may be a very justifiable position.  But the major point is htat the neocons were not able to excommunicate him for heresy, which, if this trend continues, may pave the way for more Republican dissent in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Eugene Costa is missing the point here.  The point is that the neocons were not able to unseat Jones in the primary.  If you think that the Democrat who runs against him in the fall  (assuming there is one, I don&#8217;t know much about his district) would be a better candidate to support, that may be a very justifiable position.  But the major point is htat the neocons were not able to excommunicate him for heresy, which, if this trend continues, may pave the way for more Republican dissent in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 21:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey G.
I am willing to show you my paycheck stub to prove that I actually work for a living.Would you be willing to do the same. I will also show you my DD-214 to prove I served instead of getting high and bad mouthing the country. Would you show yours? I am willing to show you pictures of the things I have worked for with no government assistance. Would you show yours? I am willing to show you pictures of my two children that I did not abort. Would you show yours? Now once again you know where you can go with your liberal views ok. Us folks who actually work for a living pay our bills, serve our country, and raise our kids know what is wrong and right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey G.<br />
I am willing to show you my paycheck stub to prove that I actually work for a living.Would you be willing to do the same. I will also show you my DD-214 to prove I served instead of getting high and bad mouthing the country. Would you show yours? I am willing to show you pictures of the things I have worked for with no government assistance. Would you show yours? I am willing to show you pictures of my two children that I did not abort. Would you show yours? Now once again you know where you can go with your liberal views ok. Us folks who actually work for a living pay our bills, serve our country, and raise our kids know what is wrong and right.</p>
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		<title>By: A. G. Phillbin</title>
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		<dc:creator>A. G. Phillbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 18:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, look, more telltale signs of a life led on the Little Green Footballs website for politically engaged, inebriated mouth breathers. First, he has to call me a homosexual, which is an insult to him, not to me. And of course, he has to mention the Democrats, who I have never voted for in my life. And of course, no piece of LGF inspired drivel would be complete without mention of that gateway to Hell for right-wing paranoid cranks, San Francisco! However, he is only a junior member of this elite fraternity, as evinced by his lack of the use of the word &quot;Berkeley,&quot; the mere mention of which makes his sort cringe at the forced interracial, multisexual orgies in the streets that they imagine are the norm of daily life there. This is only redeemed by his use of the code-phrase &quot;Obama,&quot; which conjures up images in Don&#039;s mind of forced multiracial sex, as well as some really weird stuff about dog collars, high heels, and leather bikini briefs. Is it possible that Don is attracted to me? Well, I really don&#039;t swing that way, but if I did, I know I can do better! (-:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, look, more telltale signs of a life led on the Little Green Footballs website for politically engaged, inebriated mouth breathers. First, he has to call me a homosexual, which is an insult to him, not to me. And of course, he has to mention the Democrats, who I have never voted for in my life. And of course, no piece of LGF inspired drivel would be complete without mention of that gateway to Hell for right-wing paranoid cranks, San Francisco! However, he is only a junior member of this elite fraternity, as evinced by his lack of the use of the word &#8220;Berkeley,&#8221; the mere mention of which makes his sort cringe at the forced interracial, multisexual orgies in the streets that they imagine are the norm of daily life there. This is only redeemed by his use of the code-phrase &#8220;Obama,&#8221; which conjures up images in Don&#8217;s mind of forced multiracial sex, as well as some really weird stuff about dog collars, high heels, and leather bikini briefs. Is it possible that Don is attracted to me? Well, I really don&#8217;t swing that way, but if I did, I know I can do better! (-:</p>
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		<title>By: A. G. Phillbin</title>
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		<dc:creator>A. G. Phillbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 18:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More brilliant assertions from someone who lives his life on pseudo-&quot;conservative&quot; weblogs, rather than the actual, real world. For example, I own four firearms, something which only a pinhead would think is inconsistent with any of the other positions he purports I hold. For example, I think that all abortion clinics should stock firearms, and have local armed defenders they can call on, in case of attempted invasions by fanatical anti-abortion religioid cranks. Now, tell us, why is a piece of trailer park detritus like Don afraid of wealth distribution, when he is clearly in line for a piece of redistributed wealth? Of course, the fact that an idiot like Don would get a piece of the social surplus is in fact an excellent reason to oppose wealth redistribution! As for serving his country, well, shooting your mouth off on a weblog doesn&#039;t count, and it&#039;s not even good marksmanship!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More brilliant assertions from someone who lives his life on pseudo-&#8221;conservative&#8221; weblogs, rather than the actual, real world. For example, I own four firearms, something which only a pinhead would think is inconsistent with any of the other positions he purports I hold. For example, I think that all abortion clinics should stock firearms, and have local armed defenders they can call on, in case of attempted invasions by fanatical anti-abortion religioid cranks. Now, tell us, why is a piece of trailer park detritus like Don afraid of wealth distribution, when he is clearly in line for a piece of redistributed wealth? Of course, the fact that an idiot like Don would get a piece of the social surplus is in fact an excellent reason to oppose wealth redistribution! As for serving his country, well, shooting your mouth off on a weblog doesn&#8217;t count, and it&#8217;s not even good marksmanship!</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 17:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey G.
Listen buddy why don&#039;t you climb back into bed with your boyfriend I am sure he misses you. Someday if your Dem candidates get into complete control maybe you and him can be married and feel comfortable someplace other than San Francisco. Maybe someday soon I will see you dressed in a leather bikini brief with a studded dog collar and high heels being led on all fours by your master holding a Obama sign?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey G.<br />
Listen buddy why don&#8217;t you climb back into bed with your boyfriend I am sure he misses you. Someday if your Dem candidates get into complete control maybe you and him can be married and feel comfortable someplace other than San Francisco. Maybe someday soon I will see you dressed in a leather bikini brief with a studded dog collar and high heels being led on all fours by your master holding a Obama sign?</p>
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