Comments on: PNAC No More?

By: Howler of the Day « his vorpal sword

Howler of the Day « his vorpal sword — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 22:00:30 +0000

[...] (hat tip to antiwar.com and ThinkProgress) Rats and sinking ships and all, but you’d think they’d have the good grace to close up shop, rather than let the account sit and fester. It couldn’t be THAT much trouble for these Bold Entrepreneurs, these “patriots,” these Wile E. Coyote Supergeniuses to settle up their internet account, right? An eye-popping honor roll of PNAC signatories can be found HERE courtesy of Rightweb’s investigation. Another can be found at the SourceWatch PNAC entry, here. Gee, you’d think PNAC FOUNDER Bill Kristol could pay his internet bill with ONE New York Times check. Seriously. Here’s what the PNAC page USED to look like. And here’s a short “PNAC Primer.”] [...]

By: dan

dan — Fri, 30 May 2008 23:42:49 +0000

i agre with you, what we need to do is post phone numbers

By: kass

kass — Fri, 23 May 2008 08:20:08 +0000

Big Raven, re dual citizenship: http://www.viewzone.com/dualcitizen.html

By: The Big Raven

The Big Raven — Thu, 22 May 2008 20:15:40 +0000

Could you please write about how many of this people have daul citizanship?

By: NotReadyToMakeNice

NotReadyToMakeNice — Thu, 22 May 2008 13:03:56 +0000

Thanks for clarifying that. I don’t see anything heroic about dropping bombs on innocent civilians, but I wouldn’t want to accuse McCain of something he hasn’t done when there’s plenty of crap he has done to talk about.

To get back to PNAC, a friend told me about it in early 2002. I was incredulous reading the PNAC document “Rebuilding America’s Defenses” which predicted that it would take an attack on the scale of Pearl Harbor to rally Americans around PNAC’s agenda.

Like countless others, I was searching for answers about 9/11, and I have to say the scales fell from my eyes when I read up on PNAC.

Something that’s rarely mentioned (although I think I first saw it here) is that Rabbi Dov Zakheim, a prominent PNAC member, was comptroller/ CFO of the Pentagon on 9/11/01. Zakheim had previously been CEO of SPC Intl., a company that had developed technology to remotely control hijacked planes.

SPC had a division, TriData, that was in charge of investigating the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center, so Zakheim would have had access to a lot of information on the towers.

But of course, all of this is just COINCIDENCE, right? Everything surrounding PNAC members and 9/11 reek of some kind of grim serendipity.

Here’s Zakheim’s bio from the website of SPC itself:

http://www.sysplan.com/Corporate/Officers/DZakheim

By: 1984

1984 — Thu, 22 May 2008 05:10:31 +0000

PNAC simply got too much attention and I hope i contributed to that by posting information about it on various blogs (couldn’t on rightwing ones, it means a quick ban)
I don’t doubt that the ideologue lives on in one for or another though, like through AEI.

By: DJ

DJ — Thu, 22 May 2008 03:17:31 +0000

I’m no fan of John McCain’s, but from a technical standpoint that article in the ‘Rock Creek Free Press’ is a bunch of sensationalist hogwash fed more by rumor rather than facts. Lt Commanders don’t run a carrier, pilots don’t dictate what type of ordnance their aircraft will be loaded with, and ship’s captains and airwing commanders don’t dictate what ordnance will be carried by the ship when it goes to sea on combat cruises. Leftover WW II ordnance was used extensively in the early years of the Vietnam war by the Navy, Air Force, and Marines…and I doubt if its ‘cookoff’ time is any less than that of any modern MK-83 GP bomb without thermal shielding. Additionally, the A4 aircraft is designed to carry one 1000 pound bomb each on the parent centerline and inboard wing pylons. Whoever said that the aircraft is limited to carry only 500 pound bombs is full of beans. The aircraft would also not be illegally loaded…that is, there would not be a 1000 pounder on an outboard wing pylon…guaranteed. I’ll go out on a limb here and assume his aircraft was probably loaded with one MK-82 (500#) one each outboard wing station, a 300 gallon fuel tank on each inboard wing station, and a single 1000# bomb on the fuselage center station. This would comprise a typical maximum combat load for the A4 if 1000# bombs were being used. That said, I don’t consider John McCain a ‘hero.’ Any damn fool can get himself shot down and being a POW just means sitting out the combat phase of the war…not fun, but neither particularly ‘heroic,’ at least not in my book. But to blame him for the Forrestal fire is nothing but a phoney bullsh*t smear!

By: Bill Rood

Bill Rood — Thu, 22 May 2008 02:08:56 +0000

Yes. In hiding. Hoping to rise again after Republicans have sufficiently blamed Obama for the coming coming stagflation, just as Carter was blamed in his time.

This country desperately needs war crimes trials.

By: the_big_wedding

the_big_wedding — Wed, 21 May 2008 18:05:50 +0000

Navy Releases McCain’s Records: Was McCain personally responsible for the deadliest fire in the history of the US Navy?

http://rockcreekfreepress.tumblr.com/post/35321150

By: NotReadyToMakeNice

NotReadyToMakeNice — Wed, 21 May 2008 17:59:01 +0000

I’m pretty sure that I would be one of the first “disappeared” under a Lieberman regime. Despite that my spouse has the so-called “right of return” to Israel.

The world becomes increasingly absurd, but I fear that there’s no way to stop the Likudnik madness.

I back others on this site in asking people to call their congressional reps and demand that Israel be taken out of the U.S. foreign policy equation AND no attack on Iran, Syria, Lebanon, the Palestinians, or we will KICK THEIR BUTTS OUT OF OFFICE. And also prosecute these congressional traitors for treason.

Call the media too — it’s at least as culpable in hyping the myth that Israel is this tiny, innocent, defenseless country, surrounded by barbarians/ heathens/ ravening hordes.

We have to stop an attack on Iran because it’s our future at stake.

By: Chris Baker

Chris Baker — Wed, 21 May 2008 17:36:15 +0000

I like the name “Project for the Nihilist American Century” by the way. That’s most descriptive, and it doesn’t change the acronym.

By: Chris Baker

Chris Baker — Wed, 21 May 2008 17:31:54 +0000

Once you put something out on the Web, you can never take it back. It’s nice to see that the site is gone. Of course, they have accomplished more than they ever dreamed of when it was all started.