Comments on: Libertarian Party Nominates Bob Barr for President http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/05/25/libertarian-party-nominates-bob-barr-for-president/ Fri, 29 Aug 2008 05:12:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: James Parker http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/05/25/libertarian-party-nominates-bob-barr-for-president/#comment-158612 James Parker Thu, 07 Aug 2008 00:45:53 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4337#comment-158612 I need a candidate who will end the war at home and the war in Iraq. And who has the sense not to start a THIRD foreign war at the same time! The War on Drugs is the biggest policy failure in American history. It has cost us the Rule of Law, and corrupted every part of our government including the last 3 Presidents and EVERY law enforcement agency. The effort of the LP to oppose it has been right. It will bear fruit this year, as Michigan will become the 13th state to recognize the legitimacy of medical marijuana. What a queer choice Bob Barr is! I am far more comfortable writing in Ron Paul, although I have toyed with the idea of Nader as the least of 4 evils, or with Barr if I can believe his conversion. I need a candidate who will end the war at home and the war in Iraq. And who has the sense not to start a THIRD foreign war at the same time!

The War on Drugs is the biggest policy failure in American history. It has cost us the Rule of Law, and corrupted every part of our government including the last 3 Presidents and EVERY law enforcement agency. The effort of the LP to oppose it has been right. It will bear fruit this year, as Michigan will become the 13th state to recognize the legitimacy of medical marijuana.

What a queer choice Bob Barr is! I am far more comfortable writing in Ron Paul, although I have toyed with the idea of Nader as the least of 4 evils, or with Barr if I can believe his conversion.

]]> By: Fascist Nation http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/05/25/libertarian-party-nominates-bob-barr-for-president/#comment-153600 Fascist Nation Tue, 27 May 2008 17:53:43 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4337#comment-153600 Yes, I saw V. I was sitting behind him in the AZ delegation. He wasn't pleased. Kept talking about a vendetta. Me, I don't think the "reformers" are worth the bother. Let them have the party was my feeling in 2004. Nothing has changed since. If the party is not useful as a tool against the state, let the statists run with it without those possessing standards. In 2008, I was there helping the same friend run for LNC. He got his ass kicked again. But never let it be said that a libertarian wasn't running on the ballot. He was. And he was the first to go. It was fun to reminisce with some of the old anarchists I haven't seen in some time who wanted to see if the reformers would win or the anarchist would rise. Verdict: There ain't no A in Libertrin. Yes, I saw V. I was sitting behind him in the AZ delegation. He wasn’t pleased. Kept talking about a vendetta. Me, I don’t think the “reformers” are worth the bother. Let them have the party was my feeling in 2004. Nothing has changed since. If the party is not useful as a tool against the state, let the statists run with it without those possessing standards. In 2008, I was there helping the same friend run for LNC. He got his ass kicked again. But never let it be said that a libertarian wasn’t running on the ballot. He was. And he was the first to go. It was fun to reminisce with some of the old anarchists I haven’t seen in some time who wanted to see if the reformers would win or the anarchist would rise. Verdict: There ain’t no A in Libertrin.

]]> By: Ian Evergood http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/05/25/libertarian-party-nominates-bob-barr-for-president/#comment-153585 Ian Evergood Tue, 27 May 2008 13:19:09 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4337#comment-153585 While I realize orthodox Libertarians would dislike her economic platform, on the critical issues of withdrawing from Iraq and winding down the imperialist foreign policy, on the Patriot Act, the Military Commissions Act and other assaults on civil liberties, on DOMA, Cynthia McKinney was never "duped", has, unlike Barr, Obama, Clinton and McCain alike, been right the first time every time on all those issues. She has also shown by her direct action on Capitol Hill where she stands on the ever-intensifying encroachments of the Police State. I certainly hope the Greens are wise enough to give her their endorsement. While I realize orthodox Libertarians would dislike her economic platform, on the critical issues of withdrawing from Iraq and winding down the imperialist foreign policy, on the Patriot Act, the Military Commissions Act and other assaults on civil liberties, on DOMA, Cynthia McKinney was never “duped”, has, unlike Barr, Obama, Clinton and McCain alike, been right the first time every time on all those issues. She has also shown by her direct action on Capitol Hill where she stands on the ever-intensifying encroachments of the Police State. I certainly hope the Greens are wise enough to give her their endorsement.

]]> By: Luis Magno http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/05/25/libertarian-party-nominates-bob-barr-for-president/#comment-153565 Luis Magno Tue, 27 May 2008 05:07:44 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4337#comment-153565 I believe that you are correct about Barr maybe the LP also. The idea is to draw votes away from McCain in order to insure the election of Obama. According to a former American intelligence operative there has been a silent coup with Zbignew Brezhinski as the brain and Jay Rockefeller (global warming hoax) as the oligarch in charge. The media is obviously all for Obama. David Rockefeller (war on terror hoax) seems to have lost out to Jay. But does it matter? The Rockefellers are junior partners to the British Rothschilds. The Illuminati are determined to get their way. However, if Benjamin Fulford is right (check out http://www.rense.com/) they are all scheduled to have their comeuppance shortly unless they decide to tow the new line recently laid down by the Asians. I believe that you are correct about Barr maybe the LP also. The idea is to draw votes away from McCain in order to insure the election of Obama. According to a former American intelligence operative there has been a silent coup with Zbignew Brezhinski as the brain and Jay Rockefeller (global warming hoax) as the oligarch in charge. The media is obviously all for Obama. David Rockefeller (war on terror hoax) seems to have lost out to Jay. But does it matter? The Rockefellers are junior partners to the British Rothschilds. The Illuminati are determined to get their way. However, if Benjamin Fulford is right (check out http://www.rense.com/) they are all scheduled to have their comeuppance shortly unless they decide to tow the new line recently laid down by the Asians.

]]> By: Luis Magno http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/05/25/libertarian-party-nominates-bob-barr-for-president/#comment-153564 Luis Magno Tue, 27 May 2008 04:28:04 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4337#comment-153564 Libertarianism is an ideal. I watched the proceedings after Mike Gravel's campaign alerted me to the C-Span coverage. I listened to all the candidates. When I got to Jingosian I favored him with Nuwart a close second but then Jingosian nominated Gravel and Nuwart became my favorite. I like Gravel's national referendum project but not as a Libertarian nominee for President. I believe that Barr was favored by the majority because his candidacy will attract many conservatives and increase the vote totals in state contests thus assuring permanent ballot access to many Libertarian state parties, a practical consideration. The two women candidates were the ideological purists. Mary Nuwart would have been an good choice, in my estimation. A big turnoff to me (I literally turned off the TV) was the nominating speech for Gillies by a homosexual. Libertarians are down big-time on so-called identity politics yet they all seem to welcome sexual-identity politics (including Gravel)! What they are really against is ethno-racial identity politics. (See my post above for my view on ethno-racial identity politics.) Libertarianism is an ideal. I watched the proceedings after Mike Gravel’s campaign alerted me to the C-Span coverage. I listened to all the candidates. When I got to Jingosian I favored him with Nuwart a close second but then Jingosian nominated Gravel and Nuwart became my favorite. I like Gravel’s national referendum project but not as a Libertarian nominee for President.

I believe that Barr was favored by the majority because his candidacy will attract many conservatives and increase the vote totals in state contests thus assuring permanent ballot access to many Libertarian state parties, a practical consideration. The two women candidates were the ideological purists. Mary Nuwart would have been an good choice, in my estimation.

A big turnoff to me (I literally turned off the TV) was the nominating speech for Gillies by a homosexual. Libertarians are down big-time on so-called identity politics yet they all seem to welcome sexual-identity politics (including Gravel)! What they are really against is ethno-racial identity politics. (See my post above for my view on ethno-racial identity politics.)

]]> By: Jim http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/05/25/libertarian-party-nominates-bob-barr-for-president/#comment-153563 Jim Tue, 27 May 2008 04:20:07 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4337#comment-153563 Those of us who were against DOMA, The War, and the Patriot Act could smell the stench of these decisions from beyond the horizon. Barr is a politician, not a Libertarian. Those of us who were against DOMA, The War, and the Patriot Act could smell the stench of these decisions from beyond the horizon. Barr is a politician, not a Libertarian.

]]> By: Luis Magno http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/05/25/libertarian-party-nominates-bob-barr-for-president/#comment-153561 Luis Magno Tue, 27 May 2008 03:56:48 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4337#comment-153561 Sorry, but only real identity politics, i.,e, ethno-racial politics, holds the promise of salvation for the U.S. of A. The biggest beneficiaries would be the ethnic Anglo-Saxons, otherwise known as "whites" who are well on their way to losing the country that their forefathers founded. They are historically the dominant majority and still are but because of the lack of an ethno-racial consciousness (everything is reduced to race, i.e., to the physical) they are intellectually and increasingly spiritually rudderless. They have become increasingly rudderless since around the turn of the century with the coup d'grace which occurred in 1913 with the US banking takeover by a highly organized alien ethnic group which fact remains unknown to the typically incredulous ethnically "whitewashed" culturally- and historically-ignorant American. Please don't take what I am saying personally, it is not meant to be taken that way. Sorry, but only real identity politics, i.,e, ethno-racial politics, holds the promise of salvation for the U.S. of A. The biggest beneficiaries would be the ethnic Anglo-Saxons, otherwise known as “whites” who are well on their way to losing the country that their forefathers founded. They are historically the dominant majority and still are but because of the lack of an ethno-racial consciousness (everything is reduced to race, i.e., to the physical) they are intellectually and increasingly spiritually rudderless. They have become increasingly rudderless since around the turn of the century with the coup d’grace which occurred in 1913 with the US banking takeover by a highly organized alien ethnic group which fact remains unknown to the typically incredulous ethnically “whitewashed” culturally- and historically-ignorant American. Please don’t take what I am saying personally, it is not meant to be taken that way.

]]> By: jack http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/05/25/libertarian-party-nominates-bob-barr-for-president/#comment-153560 jack Tue, 27 May 2008 03:42:56 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4337#comment-153560 I have no doubt that Barr would prosecute war crimes if they can be proven. He has stood up to power in congress and as a federal district attorney. I think he has courage to change things, but it's all academic, it will be Obama. The more votes other candidates get, will make his plurality smaller, and restrain the neoliberal democrats who are just as warlike as Bush. I have no doubt that Barr would prosecute war crimes if they can be proven. He has stood up to power in congress and as a federal district attorney. I think he has courage to change things, but it’s all academic, it will be Obama. The more votes other candidates get, will make his plurality smaller, and restrain the neoliberal democrats who are just as warlike as Bush.

]]> By: anti-neocon http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/05/25/libertarian-party-nominates-bob-barr-for-president/#comment-153544 anti-neocon Mon, 26 May 2008 21:51:25 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4337#comment-153544 Oh no, not Barr. Oh no, not Barr.

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]]> By: Thomas http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/05/25/libertarian-party-nominates-bob-barr-for-president/#comment-153537 Thomas Mon, 26 May 2008 21:00:41 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4337#comment-153537 I have doubts about Barr, but the optimist in me says I hope Barr changes his ways, especially on the Fair Tax. The words "Fair Tax" are an oxymoron. The only tax that's fair is a "No Tax" (i.e., replacing the tax with nothing), aka Ron Paul, and <a href="http://afreesociety.blogspot.com/2006/03/building-blocks-of-law-there-is-no-law.html" rel="nofollow">the law</a>. I have doubts about Barr, but the optimist in me says I hope Barr changes his ways, especially on the Fair Tax. The words “Fair Tax” are an oxymoron. The only tax that’s fair is a “No Tax” (i.e., replacing the tax with nothing), aka Ron Paul, and the law.

]]> By: John Lowell http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/05/25/libertarian-party-nominates-bob-barr-for-president/#comment-153534 John Lowell Mon, 26 May 2008 20:53:14 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4337#comment-153534 I'd not be entirely certain that the Regime plans on going peacefully. I'd venture there'd be an even chance of Bush declaring marshall law and suspending the election should some 9/11-like event develope. Frankly, I could see them formulating something to justify marshall law when they initiate war with Iran later this year. These people typically truck no restraint, 1-20-89. I’d not be entirely certain that the Regime plans on going peacefully. I’d venture there’d be an even chance of Bush declaring marshall law and suspending the election should some 9/11-like event develope. Frankly, I could see them formulating something to justify marshall law when they initiate war with Iran later this year. These people typically truck no restraint, 1-20-89.

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