Comments on: Ledeen and Chinese ‘Fascism’ http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/05/31/ledeen-and-chinese-fascism/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:19:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: sohbet http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/05/31/ledeen-and-chinese-fascism/comment-page-1/#comment-285235 sohbet Mon, 30 Jan 2012 00:26:41 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4350#comment-285235 thank you very much executives like you, I <a href="http://www.tryemektarifleri.com" rel="nofollow">yemek tarifleri</a>really like your blog very<a href="http://www.mt2pvpserverler.net" rel="nofollow">metin2 pvp</a> clean and reliable link to a web site trying to get the ban I hope I do not eat many thanks Web sites with the music here is actually fun, chat, friendship, bi kind of people that I'm <a href="http://www.mt2pvpserverler.net" rel="nofollow">mt2 pvp</a>trying to create an ideal environment for fusion with each other and chat environments, <a href="http://www.sosyetechat.net" rel="nofollow">chat</a>and sexual issues, as well as food, drink, and even my own social networking areas, such as creating <a href="http://www.bayangiyimleri.org" rel="nofollow">bayan giyim</a>a single goal is to serve our valuable administrators <a href="http://www.chatchat.gen.tr" rel="nofollow">chat</a>hope you understand If you need to make thank you very much executives like you, I yemek tariflerireally like your blog verymetin2 pvp clean and reliable link to a web site trying to get the ban I hope I do not eat many thanks
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]]> By: Steven http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/05/31/ledeen-and-chinese-fascism/comment-page-1/#comment-242302 Steven Thu, 08 Sep 2011 15:34:34 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4350#comment-242302 Well, TBH, as much as a foolhardy S.O.B. & crook as Ledeen is, even he gets something right every once in a blue moon. The China of today is fascist........although if the rumors about him being an admirer of Mussolini's Italy are true(and they very well could be), then it's nothing more than crass hypocrisy on his part. @George + Chris: Sorry to burst your bubbles here, but while Mao's China was no paradise, overall things have actually gotten worse over there. Most of the signs since the end of the '70s that I have observed, have pointed not to democracy, but corporate-style fascism. Basically, they've gone from the frying pan & into the fire. We here in America are headed in that same direction. And as for you, Dano, you can go take that fascist 'Jewish lobby' lie & shove it up your totalitarian ass. Go back to your anti-Semitism, we normal people prefer peace & love, thanks. Well, TBH, as much as a foolhardy S.O.B. & crook as Ledeen is, even he gets something right every once in a blue moon. The China of today is fascist……..although if the rumors about him being an admirer of Mussolini's Italy are true(and they very well could be), then it's nothing more than crass hypocrisy on his part.

@George + Chris: Sorry to burst your bubbles here, but while Mao's China was no paradise, overall things have actually gotten worse over there. Most of the signs since the end of the '70s that I have observed, have pointed not to democracy, but corporate-style fascism. Basically, they've gone from the frying pan & into the fire. We here in America are headed in that same direction.

And as for you, Dano, you can go take that fascist 'Jewish lobby' lie & shove it up your totalitarian ass. Go back to your anti-Semitism, we normal people prefer peace & love, thanks.

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]]> By: Lawrence Kelly http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/05/31/ledeen-and-chinese-fascism/comment-page-1/#comment-158790 Lawrence Kelly Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:49:34 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4350#comment-158790 I'm no Ledeen fan, but if one can get over an ad hominem view of who's saying the patent truth, It seems beyond debate that China is clearly now a classic fascist country -- its dictatorship having "gracefully" moved from a badly botched experiment called communism to a very promising blend of rampant capitalism-plus-absolute dictatorship -- a not-unique marriage of convenience long known as "fascism". Of course, we persist in being utterly blind to (or in total denial of) what we are doing -- effectively totally funding this new fascist enterprise (and its ever-more-massive military) -- our gigantic trade deficit with China single-handedly wiping out China's deficit with virtually all other "democracies". Anyone puzzled by the "news" that "our trade partner" China is in fact a classic example of fascism need not listen to Ledeen. Just do a little homework of your own, probing the definition and description of fascism. You will find that indeed China is fascism's "new poster child". I'm no Ledeen fan, but if one can get over an ad hominem view of who's saying the patent truth, It seems beyond debate that China is clearly now a classic fascist country — its dictatorship having "gracefully" moved from a badly botched experiment called communism to a very promising blend of rampant capitalism-plus-absolute dictatorship — a not-unique marriage of convenience long known as "fascism".

Of course, we persist in being utterly blind to (or in total denial of) what we are doing — effectively totally funding this new fascist enterprise (and its ever-more-massive military) — our gigantic trade deficit with China single-handedly wiping out China's deficit with virtually all other "democracies".

Anyone puzzled by the "news" that "our trade partner" China is in fact a classic example of fascism need not listen to Ledeen. Just do a little homework of your own, probing the definition and description of fascism. You will find that indeed China is fascism's "new poster child".

]]> By: guns tech 9 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/05/31/ledeen-and-chinese-fascism/comment-page-1/#comment-156213 guns tech 9 Sun, 06 Jul 2008 09:09:48 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4350#comment-156213 <strong>guns tech 9...</strong> You must put a lot of work into blogging this much!... guns tech 9…

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]]> By: TK http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/05/31/ledeen-and-chinese-fascism/comment-page-1/#comment-155513 TK Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:40:36 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4350#comment-155513 There was the "war" with India over border disputes. There was the “war” with India over border disputes.

]]> By: John Maszka http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/05/31/ledeen-and-chinese-fascism/comment-page-1/#comment-154622 John Maszka Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:36:51 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4350#comment-154622 In October 2003, China became the first non-ASEAN country to sign the Treaty of Amity and Cooperation. China’s “strategic partnership for peace and prosperity” with the ASEAN member states promised “economic, social and security cooperation.” The tables appear to be turned. China has adopted a cooperative security-based, multilateral, rules-based collective action, positive-sum, international institution building position. Meanwhile the Bush administration has adopted an absolute security, unilateral, preventive war, zero-sum, disdain for international law, treaties and institutions position. Just before the 2004 election, China’s former vice premier and foreign minister, Qian Qichen, published at article attacking the Bush Doctrine stating that President Bush wanted to “rule over the whole world with overwhelming force, military force in particular...The troubles and disasters the United States has met do not stem from threats by others, but from its own cocksureness and arrogance.” In its December 2003 White Paper on Non-proliferation Policy and Measures, China states that “China stands for the attainment of the non-proliferation goal through peaceful means... proliferation issues must be settled through dialogue and international cooperation...unilateralism and double standards must be abandoned, and great importance should be attached and full play given to the role of the United Nations” (Liu, 2006:10). In October 2003, China became the first non-ASEAN country to sign the Treaty of Amity and Cooperation. China’s “strategic partnership for peace and prosperity” with the ASEAN member states promised “economic, social and security cooperation.” The tables appear to be turned. China has adopted a cooperative security-based, multilateral, rules-based collective action, positive-sum, international institution building position. Meanwhile the Bush administration has adopted an absolute security, unilateral, preventive war, zero-sum, disdain for international law, treaties and institutions position. Just before the 2004 election, China’s former vice premier and foreign minister, Qian Qichen, published at article attacking the Bush Doctrine stating that President Bush wanted to “rule over the whole world with overwhelming force, military force in particular…The troubles and disasters the United States has met do not stem from threats by others, but from its own cocksureness and arrogance.”
In its December 2003 White Paper on Non-proliferation Policy and Measures, China states that “China stands for the attainment of the non-proliferation goal through peaceful means… proliferation issues must be settled through dialogue and international cooperation…unilateralism and double standards must be abandoned, and great importance should be attached and full play given to the role of the United Nations” (Liu, 2006:10).

]]> By: andy http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/05/31/ledeen-and-chinese-fascism/comment-page-1/#comment-154147 andy Thu, 05 Jun 2008 01:11:44 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4350#comment-154147 That's rich, the USA calling another country a "bully". That’s rich, the USA calling another country a “bully”.

]]> By: Kenneth http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/05/31/ledeen-and-chinese-fascism/comment-page-1/#comment-154134 Kenneth Wed, 04 Jun 2008 19:38:20 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4350#comment-154134 The parasite can always find a new host, I suppose. The parasite can always find a new host, I suppose.

]]> By: Lester Ness http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/05/31/ledeen-and-chinese-fascism/comment-page-1/#comment-154118 Lester Ness Wed, 04 Jun 2008 13:53:51 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4350#comment-154118 Perhaps Israel's biggest achievement is to prove that Jews don't know more about finance than anyone else. Lester Ness Perhaps Israel’s biggest achievement is to prove that Jews don’t know more about finance than anyone else.

Lester Ness

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