Comments on: The Feminization of the Military http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/06/12/the-feminization-of-the-military/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:20:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Kevin4VFT http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/06/12/the-feminization-of-the-military/comment-page-1/#comment-235762 Kevin4VFT Sun, 31 Jul 2011 22:27:48 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4365#comment-235762 <a href="http://www.Romans13.com" rel="nofollow">www.Romans13.com</a> http://www.Romans13.com

]]> By: StavinChain http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/06/12/the-feminization-of-the-military/comment-page-1/#comment-226221 StavinChain Sat, 04 Jun 2011 00:50:04 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4365#comment-226221 (continued from previous comment) Kudos, by the way, to Liberranter, who seems to have encapsulated the entire discussion (including many of the thoughts later added) in a lovely fashion. One last thought (and I am sad to have to add this, since this is Mr. Vance's blog, and you really should do him and yourself a favor by buying a copy of his reprint of this), anyone with the slightest interest in the subject of temporal government vs. Christianity really DOES owe it to him or herself to read "On Civil Government," by David Lipscomb, available for free at <a href="http://www.mun.ca/rels/restmov/texts/dlipscomb/civgov.html" rel="nofollow">www.mun.ca/rels/restmov/texts/dlipscomb/civgov.ht...</a> or for just a few bucks at <a href="http://www.vancepublications.com" rel="nofollow">www.vancepublications.com</a> (continued from previous comment)

Kudos, by the way, to Liberranter, who seems to have encapsulated the entire discussion (including many of the thoughts later added) in a lovely fashion.

One last thought (and I am sad to have to add this, since this is Mr. Vance's blog, and you really should do him and yourself a favor by buying a copy of his reprint of this), anyone with the slightest interest in the subject of temporal government vs. Christianity really DOES owe it to him or herself to read "On Civil Government," by David Lipscomb, available for free at http://www.mun.ca/rels/restmov/texts/dlipscomb/civgov.ht... or for just a few bucks at http://www.vancepublications.com

]]> By: StavinChain http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/06/12/the-feminization-of-the-military/comment-page-1/#comment-226220 StavinChain Sat, 04 Jun 2011 00:49:11 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4365#comment-226220 Yes, I'm coming very late to the discussion, and the comment I am about to make has nothing specifically to do with the Feminization of the Military, but I just wanted to mention that the Lk 3 comment that keeps being batted about, both here and in comments on other subjects, comes not from the mouth of Jesus, but of his cousin John the Baptizer, who worked totally under the Mosaic law, and had no direct connection to Christianity except as a forerunner. Christians are called to a higher standard, and we need to quit engaging in polemics and simply follow the truth and the beauty of Jesus' teachings. (continued in next message, since this one's too long) Yes, I'm coming very late to the discussion, and the comment I am about to make has nothing specifically to do with the Feminization of the Military, but I just wanted to mention that the Lk 3 comment that keeps being batted about, both here and in comments on other subjects, comes not from the mouth of Jesus, but of his cousin John the Baptizer, who worked totally under the Mosaic law, and had no direct connection to Christianity except as a forerunner. Christians are called to a higher standard, and we need to quit engaging in polemics and simply follow the truth and the beauty of Jesus' teachings.

(continued in next message, since this one's too long)

]]> By: Corkey http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/06/12/the-feminization-of-the-military/comment-page-1/#comment-155224 Corkey Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:48:31 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4365#comment-155224 So Tim R. When are you enlisting? Maybe you will meet a nice girl and move back to the homeland. Also, Regarding the discussion of the Apostle Paul....when Paul was imprisoned illegally by the Roman authorities they were shocked to find out that he was indeed a Roman citizen with specific rights. The Roman authorities became fearful and proceeded to release him after Paul recited these rights to them. He was no wall flower and spoke boldly whenever given the opportunity. So Tim R.

When are you enlisting? Maybe you will meet a nice girl and move back to the homeland.

Also,

Regarding the discussion of the Apostle Paul….when Paul was imprisoned illegally by the Roman authorities they were shocked to find out that he was indeed a Roman citizen with specific rights. The Roman authorities became fearful and proceeded to release him after Paul recited these rights to them. He was no wall flower and spoke boldly whenever given the opportunity.

]]> By: Catacombs http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/06/12/the-feminization-of-the-military/comment-page-1/#comment-155014 Catacombs Tue, 17 Jun 2008 02:19:15 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4365#comment-155014 Romans 13:1 was mentioned earlier. You can follow the word of Paul when he says to "submit to the governing authorities" by refusing to commit state-sanctioned murder and then going straight to the authorities and "submitting" yourself to them as a conscientious objector and then "submitting" to the state-sanctioned consequences. These actions are in compliance with the text. As for Luke 3:14, the passage "Do not take money from anyone by force, or accuse anyone falsely, and be content with your wages" confirms three commandments: do not steal, do not bear false witness, do not covet. And nowhere does the text explicitly command anyone to commit murder for the earthly authorities. To do so is a violation of the ten commandments. Are we to expect that we should have other gods before God because the state says so - in order to submit to the state? Bullocks! Nor will I commit murder for the state. And I am willing to submit to the authorities for refusing to do so. Christians have to decide whether they will worship the Prince of Peace or the Masters of War. Romans 13:1 was mentioned earlier. You can follow the word of Paul when he says to “submit to the governing authorities” by refusing to commit state-sanctioned murder and then going straight to the authorities and “submitting” yourself to them as a conscientious objector and then “submitting” to the state-sanctioned consequences. These actions are in compliance with the text.

As for Luke 3:14, the passage “Do not take money from anyone by force, or accuse anyone falsely, and be content with your wages” confirms three commandments: do not steal, do not bear false witness, do not covet. And nowhere does the text explicitly command anyone to commit murder for the earthly authorities. To do so is a violation of the ten commandments. Are we to expect that we should have other gods before God because the state says so – in order to submit to the state? Bullocks! Nor will I commit murder for the state. And I am willing to submit to the authorities for refusing to do so.

Christians have to decide whether they will worship the Prince of Peace or the Masters of War.

]]> By: richard vajs http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/06/12/the-feminization-of-the-military/comment-page-1/#comment-155013 richard vajs Tue, 17 Jun 2008 02:08:44 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4365#comment-155013 Tim R, I assume that you were never in the Armed Forces of the United States that you feel God so lovinly gave to the World. I was in the Navy at the start of the Viet-Nam War (the Navy got me out of the San Diego County jail where I was facing 3 months on charges of vagrancy - they still had the old anti-Okie law). Anyway, I got sent to a ship, the USS Hancock that was "lucky" enough to conduct the first aerial bombardment of North Viet-Nam. As a flightdeck crewman, I was asked to chalk my name on some 500 lb bomb under the salutation - "Sorry about that, Ho Chi Minh". I refused as I said that that bomb wasn't going to hit old Ho, it was probably going to hit some poor innocent slob on a water buffalo. Later our senior petty officer provided us a "leadership" lecture on why these people were all "gooks" and we shouldn't give a sh-t about them. Again I dissented and made the statement that they were also human. I got threatened with a "blanket party" for that same evening. Anyway, all I carried away from my 4 year, 4 month stint was memories of callous, racist, swineish behavior (the bar fights, the puke and blood, the whoremongering, the VD). My shipmates included good people as well as barracks thieves, homosexual prostitutes, and deadbeats. To tell the truth, I met the same class of people in the military as in jail. You ought to try either and broaden your mind. Tim R,
I assume that you were never in the Armed Forces of the United States that you feel God so lovinly gave to the World. I was in the Navy at the start of the Viet-Nam War (the Navy got me out of the San Diego County jail where I was facing 3 months on charges of vagrancy – they still had the old anti-Okie law). Anyway, I got sent to a ship, the USS Hancock that was “lucky” enough to conduct the first aerial bombardment of North Viet-Nam. As a flightdeck crewman, I was asked to chalk my name on some 500 lb bomb under the salutation – “Sorry about that, Ho Chi Minh”. I refused as I said that that bomb wasn’t going to hit old Ho, it was probably going to hit some poor innocent slob on a water buffalo. Later our senior petty officer provided us a “leadership” lecture on why these people were all “gooks” and we shouldn’t give a sh-t about them. Again I dissented and made the statement that they were also human. I got threatened with a “blanket party” for that same evening. Anyway, all I carried away from my 4 year, 4 month stint was memories of callous, racist, swineish behavior (the bar fights, the puke and blood, the whoremongering, the VD). My shipmates included good people as well as barracks thieves, homosexual prostitutes, and deadbeats. To tell the truth, I met the same class of people in the military as in jail. You ought to try either and broaden your mind.

]]> By: Catacombs http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/06/12/the-feminization-of-the-military/comment-page-1/#comment-155012 Catacombs Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:52:41 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4365#comment-155012 As for the theological discussion above... I have seen no asterisk by the commandment "Thou shall not kill." Why would there be an exception to that commandment and not to the others? Would any Judeo-Christian believer argue that given certain circumstances you should worship false idols or commit adultery? I've never heard it argued. Or that you should have other gods before God? No asterisks by any of the commandments. But it's OK to commit state-sanctioned murder? Show me the asterisk. When we talk about 'sacrificing for one's country' we usually think that means dying in the line of duty for one's country. But it can also mean sacrificing your innocence as a non-murderer by engaging in state-sanctioned murder - against the commandment of God. And we wonder why so many of our soldiers come home psychologically afflicted... As for the theological discussion above…

I have seen no asterisk by the commandment “Thou shall not kill.” Why would there be an exception to that commandment and not to the others? Would any Judeo-Christian believer argue that given certain circumstances you should worship false idols or commit adultery? I’ve never heard it argued. Or that you should have other gods before God? No asterisks by any of the commandments. But it’s OK to commit state-sanctioned murder? Show me the asterisk.

When we talk about ‘sacrificing for one’s country’ we usually think that means dying in the line of duty for one’s country. But it can also mean sacrificing your innocence as a non-murderer by engaging in state-sanctioned murder – against the commandment of God. And we wonder why so many of our soldiers come home psychologically afflicted…

]]> By: anti-neocon http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/06/12/the-feminization-of-the-military/comment-page-1/#comment-154988 anti-neocon Mon, 16 Jun 2008 05:19:40 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4365#comment-154988 I so agree with Lawrence Vance, that it is tragic that many of my fellow inhabitants of the Corporation of IsraelUSA are raising their daughters to be soldiers, for the empire I add. Thanks for this great article and I so appreciate the comments posted here. Keep truth alive! I so agree with Lawrence Vance, that it is tragic that many of my fellow inhabitants of the Corporation of IsraelUSA are raising their daughters to be soldiers, for the empire I add. Thanks for this great article and I so appreciate the comments posted here. Keep truth alive!

]]> By: Mike R http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/06/12/the-feminization-of-the-military/comment-page-1/#comment-154979 Mike R Mon, 16 Jun 2008 01:09:38 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4365#comment-154979 Ana, I have long since believed as you that America must "fail". That is total economic and societal collapse. The survivors, the remnant, will pick up the peices and start over again. That day has been put off by constant intervention by the Fed and the government, interfering with market forces. This will make the final debacle total and survivable by only those who have Prepared. It will happen suddenly. The only ingrediant needed for that day is fear. Revelation 18 discribes the event: "Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great(world's monetary system based on bibically forbidden usuary banking), all this wealth in one hour has come to nothing". Ana, I have long since believed as you that America must “fail”. That is total economic and societal collapse. The survivors, the remnant, will pick up the peices and start over again. That day has been put off by constant intervention by the Fed and the government, interfering with market forces. This will make the final debacle total and survivable by only those who have Prepared. It will happen suddenly. The only ingrediant needed for that day is fear. Revelation 18 discribes the event: “Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great(world’s monetary system based on bibically forbidden usuary banking), all this wealth in one hour has come to nothing”.

]]> By: 1984 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/06/12/the-feminization-of-the-military/comment-page-1/#comment-154976 1984 Mon, 16 Jun 2008 00:37:20 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4365#comment-154976 I disagree. For many fundamentalist muslims it is beyond borders as many of them are quick to denounce what palestinians have to put up with... muslims become an entity to be protected from outside intruders, despite some of their differences. I disagree. For many fundamentalist muslims it is beyond borders as many of them are quick to denounce what palestinians have to put up with… muslims become an entity to be protected from outside intruders, despite some of their differences.

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