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		<title>By: don</title>
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		<dc:creator>don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slander is what you are doing... You don&#039;t even know the definition.... If you recall the CONGRESS overwhelmingly voted to go to war... Son did 16 other countries whom all had the same intelligence (oxymoron).... You want to blame him, where was the rest of the corrupt politicians in Congress? Why don&#039;t you put your blame on the jerks that attack our innocent civilialians and blow up women and children.... Why don&#039;t you put the blame on the people in Congress who are sworn to protect the Constitution and then pass bills without reading them, and vote to give your tax money to corruption and organizations that have agendas... Why don&#039;t you turn your treasonous comments towards the people whom want to Socialize our society and eliminate personal responsibility.... Why don&#039;t you use facts in your comments instead of spewing a bunch of crap....  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slander is what you are doing&#8230; You don&#039;t even know the definition&#8230;. If you recall the CONGRESS overwhelmingly voted to go to war&#8230; Son did 16 other countries whom all had the same intelligence (oxymoron)&#8230;. You want to blame him, where was the rest of the corrupt politicians in Congress? Why don&#039;t you put your blame on the jerks that attack our innocent civilialians and blow up women and children&#8230;. Why don&#039;t you put the blame on the people in Congress who are sworn to protect the Constitution and then pass bills without reading them, and vote to give your tax money to corruption and organizations that have agendas&#8230; Why don&#039;t you turn your treasonous comments towards the people whom want to Socialize our society and eliminate personal responsibility&#8230;. Why don&#039;t you use facts in your comments instead of spewing a bunch of crap&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim McGrath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim McGrath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, more proof that this whole war and the administration&#039;s position re: freedom of the press and the Constitution has been run or attempted to be run, like the Soviets, Chinese and other totalitarians would. In truth, they attempted to institute as official policy, in some instances with mmemos and legal advisory opinions, a tradition of torture and killing, an overarching executive, and secrecy and blackouts – everything that we have always said we are better than.  From Chinese Communist torture methods, to suppressing the freedom of the speech and press, this administration continues to act in the ways it and its antecedents have always lambasted foreign powers for doing.  As a Vietnam vet and ardent defender of the Constitution, I must once again speak out about the blackout of seeing our war dead returned to us. To see life and war as it has really been waged,  coffins and all, including the role of malfeasance played by the top military brass, see my blog, http://www.wrathofmcgrath.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, more proof that this whole war and the administration&#8217;s position re: freedom of the press and the Constitution has been run or attempted to be run, like the Soviets, Chinese and other totalitarians would. In truth, they attempted to institute as official policy, in some instances with mmemos and legal advisory opinions, a tradition of torture and killing, an overarching executive, and secrecy and blackouts – everything that we have always said we are better than.  From Chinese Communist torture methods, to suppressing the freedom of the speech and press, this administration continues to act in the ways it and its antecedents have always lambasted foreign powers for doing.  As a Vietnam vet and ardent defender of the Constitution, I must once again speak out about the blackout of seeing our war dead returned to us. To see life and war as it has really been waged,  coffins and all, including the role of malfeasance played by the top military brass, see my blog, <a href="http://www.wrathofmcgrath.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.wrathofmcgrath.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ben Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 07:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, last time I checked the Iraqis were glad we are there, and I&#039;m getting my information directly from the marines that are over in Iraq not from the biased media. Bush is not like Hitler, yes Hitler claimed he liberated countries but then he took direct control of the country, Bush on the other hand has overthrown a dictator and set up a democracy were the Iraqi people are free to vote. We are not in Iraq so that we gain from it we are there as a selfless act to help the Iraqi people get their country back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, last time I checked the Iraqis were glad we are there, and I&#8217;m getting my information directly from the marines that are over in Iraq not from the biased media. Bush is not like Hitler, yes Hitler claimed he liberated countries but then he took direct control of the country, Bush on the other hand has overthrown a dictator and set up a democracy were the Iraqi people are free to vote. We are not in Iraq so that we gain from it we are there as a selfless act to help the Iraqi people get their country back.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Arthur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Arthur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, you wrote really a truthful story. This whole story is the mirror of his cruel behaves. Your explanations elaborate enough to clear my doubts on &quot;Bush has been shoveling ever since the Abu Ghraib photos first surfaced in 2004. Anyone who accurately labels Bush&#039;s policies sladders America&quot;. I am sure it has helped a lot of people out there.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, you wrote really a truthful story. This whole story is the mirror of his cruel behaves. Your explanations elaborate enough to clear my doubts on &#8220;Bush has been shoveling ever since the Abu Ghraib photos first surfaced in 2004. Anyone who accurately labels Bush&#8217;s policies sladders America&#8221;. I am sure it has helped a lot of people out there.<br />
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		<title>By: R. Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>R. Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ach, Tim, you can&#039;t show respect to an office.  So you have to show it, if you think you should show it, to the office&#039;s occupant.  Thus you&#039;re still saying that we should show respect to and speak respectfully of men who have caused a world of needless grief and pain.  Set aside the thousands of American dead and wounded, the trillions spent to pay for the Iraq war, the irreparable damage done to our liberties and the Constitution, and the corruption of what&#039;s left of the American mind.  How can we ever make the Iraqis whole again?  I disrespectfully beg to differ with your unAmerican belief in bootlicking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ach, Tim, you can&#8217;t show respect to an office.  So you have to show it, if you think you should show it, to the office&#8217;s occupant.  Thus you&#8217;re still saying that we should show respect to and speak respectfully of men who have caused a world of needless grief and pain.  Set aside the thousands of American dead and wounded, the trillions spent to pay for the Iraq war, the irreparable damage done to our liberties and the Constitution, and the corruption of what&#8217;s left of the American mind.  How can we ever make the Iraqis whole again?  I disrespectfully beg to differ with your unAmerican belief in bootlicking.</p>
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		<title>By: Lester Ness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lester Ness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They will go to Texass and to Maryland, respectively, unless they both have to seek asylum in Paraguay!

Lester</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They will go to Texass and to Maryland, respectively, unless they both have to seek asylum in Paraguay!</p>
<p>Lester</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Tregarth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Tregarth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 00:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When after the War between the States the Union emancipated slaves, who were property, in the the Border States and paid compensation, was that not a taking and a form of nationalization?

Good question, EC, but I am unsure of the pertinence of it to Oil Nationalization.  If your analogy were to hold true for both oil and chattel slavery, than you would have to argue that the oil industry was evil from its origin, that it cannot be allowed to continue, and that upon forced compensation from the centgov the industry would be abolished.  Neither one of us is trying to make this case. That abolition was a taking I agree - my problem with it was that the centgov took money from the taxpayer to pay for compensation.  I haven&#039;t thought of another solution to compensation, though.

Your news scoops and quotes are superb.  I also agree that the whole lot of the Politburo on the Potomac should be impeached, starting with Bush and Cheney.  But as Butler Shaffer has written, when was the last time the Crips tried any of its members for criminal activity?  Liberty.   ST</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When after the War between the States the Union emancipated slaves, who were property, in the the Border States and paid compensation, was that not a taking and a form of nationalization?</p>
<p>Good question, EC, but I am unsure of the pertinence of it to Oil Nationalization.  If your analogy were to hold true for both oil and chattel slavery, than you would have to argue that the oil industry was evil from its origin, that it cannot be allowed to continue, and that upon forced compensation from the centgov the industry would be abolished.  Neither one of us is trying to make this case. That abolition was a taking I agree &#8211; my problem with it was that the centgov took money from the taxpayer to pay for compensation.  I haven&#8217;t thought of another solution to compensation, though.</p>
<p>Your news scoops and quotes are superb.  I also agree that the whole lot of the Politburo on the Potomac should be impeached, starting with Bush and Cheney.  But as Butler Shaffer has written, when was the last time the Crips tried any of its members for criminal activity?  Liberty.   ST</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Costa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eugene Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 18:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bikini Islanders Helped By Guantanamo Detainees&#039; Court Ruling&lt;/b&gt;

Johnson Pacific Magazine June 21, 2008

Bikini Islanders attempting to overturn the recent dismissal of their billion-dollar compensation lawsuit against the United States government have received help from an unexpected source.

A U.S. Supreme Court ruling last week on the rights of terror suspects being held at Guantanamo Bay could help the Bikini case, which is now pending in a U.S. federal appeals court, Bikini attorney Jonathan Weisgall says.

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in the Lakhdar Boumediene case 5-4 that the prisoners in Guantanamo Bay have a constitutional right to go to federal court to challenge their continued detention, which in legal language is a procedure known as “habeas corpus,” said Weisgall, who is based in Washington, D.C.
  
The U.S. tested 23 nuclear weapons at Bikini, including “Bravo” in 1954, the largest American hydrogen bomb ever tested. The tests were conducted while the Marshall Islands was under a United Nations Trusteeship administered by the United States.

The Bikinians filed suit last year in the U.S. Federal Court of Claims seeking more than $1 billion in compensation, but the judge dismissed the claim earlier this year.

The recent Supreme Court decision is important for Bikini because the judges said a Defense Department alternative that stripped U.S. federal courts of jurisdiction to hear petitions from Guantanamo detainees was inadequate — a situation similar to the Bikini islanders who are battling the U.S. argument that U.S. courts should have no jurisdiction to hear their claims because an alternative mechanism already resolved nuclear testing compensation claims.
  
“The court not only struck down the administration’s contention that the detainees have no rights but also said the system the (U.S.) administration has put in place to classify them as enemy combatants and review those decisions is inadequate,” Weisgall said.
  
&lt;b&gt;“As with Guantanamo, the U.S. has plenary power over the Marshall Islands and is attempting to pretend otherwise in order to create a Constitution-free zone where none of its actions have consequences,” Weisgall said. “The wrinkle here is that the U.S. entered into an ‘agreement’ with its wards and dependents, but the effect is similar to (the) Boumediene (case): the U.S. tried to arrange things so that the Bikinians&#039; claims cannot be heard by ordinary federal courts, but rather could only be heard by a specially created forum (the Nuclear Claims Tribunal) that would not meaningfully address those claims.”&lt;/b&gt;
  
Shortly after the first Compact of Free Association came into effect in 1986, U.S. courts dismissed an earlier Bikini claim because the courts said the U.S. Congress had approved a political settlement that included establishing the Nuclear Claims Tribunal by giving it $45 million to satisfy unresolved nuclear test claims in the Marshall Islands.

The Tribunal awarded Bikini nearly $1 billion in damages and clean up funding as a result of the 23 U.S. nuclear tests, but paid only a small fraction of that amount for lack of funding.
  
Weisgall said the bottom line is that this Supreme Court decision “helps us, but by no means turns the case into a slam dunk.”&lt;/i&gt;

http://www.pacificmagazine.net/news/2008/06/21/bikini-islanders-helped-by-guantanamo-detainees-court-ruling</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i><b>Bikini Islanders Helped By Guantanamo Detainees&#8217; Court Ruling</b></p>
<p>Johnson Pacific Magazine June 21, 2008</p>
<p>Bikini Islanders attempting to overturn the recent dismissal of their billion-dollar compensation lawsuit against the United States government have received help from an unexpected source.</p>
<p>A U.S. Supreme Court ruling last week on the rights of terror suspects being held at Guantanamo Bay could help the Bikini case, which is now pending in a U.S. federal appeals court, Bikini attorney Jonathan Weisgall says.</p>
<p>The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in the Lakhdar Boumediene case 5-4 that the prisoners in Guantanamo Bay have a constitutional right to go to federal court to challenge their continued detention, which in legal language is a procedure known as “habeas corpus,” said Weisgall, who is based in Washington, D.C.</p>
<p>The U.S. tested 23 nuclear weapons at Bikini, including “Bravo” in 1954, the largest American hydrogen bomb ever tested. The tests were conducted while the Marshall Islands was under a United Nations Trusteeship administered by the United States.</p>
<p>The Bikinians filed suit last year in the U.S. Federal Court of Claims seeking more than $1 billion in compensation, but the judge dismissed the claim earlier this year.</p>
<p>The recent Supreme Court decision is important for Bikini because the judges said a Defense Department alternative that stripped U.S. federal courts of jurisdiction to hear petitions from Guantanamo detainees was inadequate — a situation similar to the Bikini islanders who are battling the U.S. argument that U.S. courts should have no jurisdiction to hear their claims because an alternative mechanism already resolved nuclear testing compensation claims.</p>
<p>“The court not only struck down the administration’s contention that the detainees have no rights but also said the system the (U.S.) administration has put in place to classify them as enemy combatants and review those decisions is inadequate,” Weisgall said.</p>
<p><b>“As with Guantanamo, the U.S. has plenary power over the Marshall Islands and is attempting to pretend otherwise in order to create a Constitution-free zone where none of its actions have consequences,” Weisgall said. “The wrinkle here is that the U.S. entered into an ‘agreement’ with its wards and dependents, but the effect is similar to (the) Boumediene (case): the U.S. tried to arrange things so that the Bikinians&#8217; claims cannot be heard by ordinary federal courts, but rather could only be heard by a specially created forum (the Nuclear Claims Tribunal) that would not meaningfully address those claims.”</b></p>
<p>Shortly after the first Compact of Free Association came into effect in 1986, U.S. courts dismissed an earlier Bikini claim because the courts said the U.S. Congress had approved a political settlement that included establishing the Nuclear Claims Tribunal by giving it $45 million to satisfy unresolved nuclear test claims in the Marshall Islands.</p>
<p>The Tribunal awarded Bikini nearly $1 billion in damages and clean up funding as a result of the 23 U.S. nuclear tests, but paid only a small fraction of that amount for lack of funding.</p>
<p>Weisgall said the bottom line is that this Supreme Court decision “helps us, but by no means turns the case into a slam dunk.”</i></p>
<p><a href="http://www.pacificmagazine.net/news/2008/06/21/bikini-islanders-helped-by-guantanamo-detainees-court-ruling" rel="nofollow">http://www.pacificmagazine.net/news/2008/06/21/bikini-islanders-helped-by-guantanamo-detainees-court-ruling</a></p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Costa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eugene Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Subsequently, as the Dineh were removed from their farms by the &quot;Relocation Commission&quot; authorized by the US Senate at the behest of the revisions to the Public Law 93-531 introduced as S.1973-1 (1996 Partition) and S.1003 (2001 and 2005 accelerated removal of the Dineh by amendment) by Senator McCain, expanded Coal Mining Rights to their lands were granted to Peabody Western who with Bechtel Corp, have been mining the lands formerly occupied by the Dineh, and piping the coal to the Mohave Generating Station in Nevada, which serves the Las Vegas and Reno, areas power needs. A map of the Mining and Piping operations are found depicted below.&lt;/i&gt;

[link above]

McCain must be some kind of Communist or Collectivist, right--like many Republicans and supposed &quot;conservatives&quot;.

Gee, imagine how much more quickly the Corporate Fascists would have emancipated the land had it been oil or gold rather than coal, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Subsequently, as the Dineh were removed from their farms by the &#8220;Relocation Commission&#8221; authorized by the US Senate at the behest of the revisions to the Public Law 93-531 introduced as S.1973-1 (1996 Partition) and S.1003 (2001 and 2005 accelerated removal of the Dineh by amendment) by Senator McCain, expanded Coal Mining Rights to their lands were granted to Peabody Western who with Bechtel Corp, have been mining the lands formerly occupied by the Dineh, and piping the coal to the Mohave Generating Station in Nevada, which serves the Las Vegas and Reno, areas power needs. A map of the Mining and Piping operations are found depicted below.</i></p>
<p>[link above]</p>
<p>McCain must be some kind of Communist or Collectivist, right&#8211;like many Republicans and supposed &#8220;conservatives&#8221;.</p>
<p>Gee, imagine how much more quickly the Corporate Fascists would have emancipated the land had it been oil or gold rather than coal, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 11:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think we should be likening anyone to Hitler.  Neither George Bush nor Saddam Hussein. It&#039;s all just propaganda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think we should be likening anyone to Hitler.  Neither George Bush nor Saddam Hussein. It&#8217;s all just propaganda.</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Costa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eugene Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Senator John McCain implicated in Dineh-Navajo genocide:

http://acsa2000.net/cain2004.org/Dine-Navajo-PressRelease.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Senator John McCain implicated in Dineh-Navajo genocide:</p>
<p><a href="http://acsa2000.net/cain2004.org/Dine-Navajo-PressRelease.htm" rel="nofollow">http://acsa2000.net/cain2004.org/Dine-Navajo-PressRelease.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Costa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eugene Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 20:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too, now and then the seemingly powerless have hidden talents:

&lt;i&gt;One movie, John Ford&#039;s classic Cheyenne Autumn, featuring Navajo actors pretending to be Cheyenne, has an almost cult following in Navajo country. 

Navajo members watching the movie today roar with laughter when Cheyenne leaders speak in Navajo, supposedly discussing treaties and tribal needs.  What the Navajo actors in the film really said in somber tones generally concerned the size of the colonel&#039;s privates (not the ones who march) or some equally disrespectful or bawdy double-entendre....&lt;/i&gt;

[http://www.nmgastronome.com/nm/american/rancho.htm]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too, now and then the seemingly powerless have hidden talents:</p>
<p><i>One movie, John Ford&#8217;s classic Cheyenne Autumn, featuring Navajo actors pretending to be Cheyenne, has an almost cult following in Navajo country. </p>
<p>Navajo members watching the movie today roar with laughter when Cheyenne leaders speak in Navajo, supposedly discussing treaties and tribal needs.  What the Navajo actors in the film really said in somber tones generally concerned the size of the colonel&#8217;s privates (not the ones who march) or some equally disrespectful or bawdy double-entendre&#8230;.</i></p>
<p>[http://www.nmgastronome.com/nm/american/rancho.htm]</p>
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