Comments on: Greenwald Challenges Obama and Olbermann

By: Lear K

Lear K — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 01:51:43 +0000

“…with real journalists like Brian Williams and the late Tim Russert…”!

Real journalists that is the big joke.

By: Dekzsty Drive

Dekzsty Drive — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 01:57:20 +0000

What is unmentioned in all this? Obama was just going into the infighting with the Clinton Black money mob: note: Wanta was paid (finally) the other day, in exchange for The Gulf “Heritage” funds taking over U.S. commercial properties to prevent Citigroup bankruptcy. Al-CIAda, which WAS the aledgedly “junior Asiatic branch” is now the DOMINATE “partner”! The gigantic LOAN SHARK “order” that the U.S. “economy” has become, can only be dismantled by having FUNCTIONAL partners. Since Obama was heading into PENTAGON briefings – which “Intelligence” would be a main feature; this was a NECESSARY tactical move (think about it). Now that power is actually changing hands (Obama may ALREADY be the real “president”), the primary field day of CRITIQUE and EXPOSURE is giving way to daily INTERCINE BATTLES which involve EVERY “POWER” on the planet. The Legalist lawyers (like Greenwald) are part of that, but FAR, FAR, from the whole show. Look at Pakistan, for example.

By: John Lowell

John Lowell — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:52:37 +0000

Well, he roughed me up pretty well publically about the doubts that I’d expressed about prospects for anything new with the Democratic Congress after the 2006 elections, R. Nelson. As a matter of fact I called him on it once after the evidence was in and there was no admission of error at that time either, simply a kind of in-your-face petulance. My experience with Greenwald would hardly indicate a lack of willingness to stand by a mistake. Rather, I get the picture of a convinced system type wishing to give the appearance of an almost rabbinic expertise – not unlike that of Tom Friedman of the NYT, as a matter of fact – and that melded with a poorly disguised personal ambition. Want to wager that its Obama that Greenwald endorses this Fall? You won’t find Raimondo doing that, believe me. These are not two peas in a pod.

By: Orville H. Larson

Orville H. Larson — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 04:55:21 +0000

Nazim, my hearty compliments to you. You’re clearly a man who understands freedom.

You dislike Obama because he doesn’t want to campaign among, or be seen with, Muslims. You’re right. Obama’s a coward. (Obama didn’t waste any time, though, in selling his soul to the Israel Lobby, did he?) Obama’s commitment to the “rule of law” is as thin as quicksand–he favors the FISA travesty.

Justin Raimondo, Glenn Greenwald, Paul Craig Roberts, Ron Paul, James Bovard, Kucinich are good men. They stand for the Constitution.

By: Tim R.

Tim R. — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 04:50:31 +0000

Olberman can have whatever opinion he wants. HOWEVER, it is a disgrace for NBC news to pass him off as some kind of objective journalist. He sits there on election nights, with real journalists like Brian Williams and the late Tim Russert, and runs his mouth off as though he is some kind of neutral party. It is a joke and a disgrace for NBC. It would be the same thing if Fox News had Bill O’Reilly covering news as some kind of journalist. Olberman has been totally in love with Obama from the beginning. He took every chance he could to bash Hillary Clinton while at the same time brown-nosing all over Obama. And that’s his right. But let’s drop the charade Keith. You are a commentator. Not a journalist. Stay away and let real journalists do their work.

By: Nazim

Nazim — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 03:56:48 +0000

I love Glenn Greenwald and Justin R. Two of my most principled voices of reason. Greenwald mind you was a Constitutional Lawyer so I think he’d know a bit about the 4th and 1st amendments.

I thoroughly appreciated his Olbermann piece, because we as Americans SHOULD NEVER PUT ANY POL above our Constitution. It is the Constitution they serve, and as an American Muslim, when Obama sold us down the river in a gross attempt to appear not-Muslim, I knew all his rhetoric about anti-Iraq war vote, “change,” and now Iran is all farce.

Long live Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich…tow of the most courageous lawmakers on Capitol Hill today.

By: Bob

Bob — Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:32:10 +0000

Greenwald is correct. Proof of that is the number of times you see him on the MSM talking head shows. The lib/cons/dem/repub scam (LCRDS) can’t handle people that tell the truth. The establishment, through the MSM (including the “left” NPR), has to keep the LCRDS going. Let’s face it, voting is highly overrated. If it mattered they’d outlaw it. ‘06 was about ending the war. The polls all say the people want out of Iraq. By that logic alone Kucinich should have been an odds-on favorite in the d primary. But the MSM made him a punch line to a bad joke. Same with Mike Gravel. He had a track record in the senate, and explained how the d leadership was lying about their inability to end the war. Instead of “indepth” interviews by the MSM “stars”, he, too, became a joke served up by the MSM. Ron Paul was the only one that could explain what was going on economically, domestically, and in foreign policy, and he was treated as a crackpot by the MSM. Olbermann knows he can be a MSM “left star” only so far — what he is doing gives the appearance, but there in no substance there. This FISA issue proves it. I, too, thought that maybe Obama wouldn’t be too bad. But the AIPAC speech showed that the fix is ALWAYS in. And when it isn’t, there’s always the “accident” option.

By: John Lowell

John Lowell — Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:50:29 +0000

“He takes Dems to task but
he appears to be a party devotee and it is
the party system that is ruining this country.”

If Greenwald takes the Democrats to task at all, its only after everyone else has been taking them to task for months, even years. And he is most certainly a system type. When anyone in their right mind could see that massive and fundamental changes in the nature of American democracy have taken place over the last several years, particularly in respect of presidential power and sufficient enough when taken together with the stranglehold exerted by various lobbies fairly to describe our system as a dictatorship, Greenwald declines the cup. Such people are “fevered” in Greenwald’s view. One wonders, then, if we are to consider Paul Craig Roberts as “fevered”. I don’t.

By: Will Blalock

Will Blalock — Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:26:32 +0000

Point taken. “Left” has little or no meaning.
I like Greenwald. He takes Dems to task but
he appears to be a party devotee and it is
the party system that is ruining this country.
I do enjoy watching Republicans eat Republicans
and Democrats eat Democrats. Joy of joys.

By: R. Nelson

R. Nelson — Sun, 29 Jun 2008 06:41:45 +0000

On the contrary. Greenwald shows he won’t stand by a mistake, a bit of a novelty these days. No doubt he hoped for the best but allows facts to guide his views. Even Raimondo held high hope for Obama at one point.

By: justaguy

justaguy — Sun, 29 Jun 2008 01:48:23 +0000

True. The “left” in the US could be counted on one hand.

By: justaguy

justaguy — Sun, 29 Jun 2008 01:47:19 +0000

Seconded. The left vs right faux argument is of minimal consequence in these times. We should all be fighting fascism. It is here now.