Comments on: Preparing the Battlefield: Scott Horton Interviews Seymour Hersh http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/06/30/preparing-the-battlefield-scott-horton-interviews-seymour-hersch/ Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:28:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: anti-neocon/anti-neolib http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/06/30/preparing-the-battlefield-scott-horton-interviews-seymour-hersch/#comment-156154 anti-neocon/anti-neolib Sat, 05 Jul 2008 11:37:51 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4385#comment-156154 I am sorry tht I sounded like such a mouse in my first comment, and appreciate lear k posting this great video and knowing that there is a strong truth movement in Germany. Just sorry that it did not mention the the other two causal elements, Israel and Zionism. I am sorry tht I sounded like such a mouse in my first comment, and appreciate lear k posting this great video and knowing that there is a strong truth movement in Germany. Just sorry that it did not mention the the other two causal elements, Israel and Zionism.

]]> By: anti-neocon/anti-neolib http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/06/30/preparing-the-battlefield-scott-horton-interviews-seymour-hersch/#comment-156142 anti-neocon/anti-neolib Sat, 05 Jul 2008 04:39:58 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4385#comment-156142 I am sorry to be so mousy in my first comment above. Everyone should do more than just write their congresscritter, much more. Stop WWIII, if you can. I am sorry to be so mousy in my first comment above. Everyone should do more than just write their congresscritter, much more. Stop WWIII, if you can.

]]> By: the legendary Bill http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/06/30/preparing-the-battlefield-scott-horton-interviews-seymour-hersch/#comment-156133 the legendary Bill Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:33:39 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4385#comment-156133 For a coup you need dissenting Generals, retired or active..You need voices in the media, you need influence in high financial circles...In short, you need an elite to replace the one we have now..you're right, I don't see it happening either.. For a coup you need dissenting Generals, retired or active..You need voices in the media, you need influence in high financial circles…In short, you need an elite to replace the one we have now..you’re right, I don’t see it happening either..

]]> By: MetaCynic http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/06/30/preparing-the-battlefield-scott-horton-interviews-seymour-hersch/#comment-156130 MetaCynic Fri, 04 Jul 2008 18:07:58 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4385#comment-156130 Why bother starting over? Sow the site with salt and move ahead with our lives. There is no need for authority figures with guns telling us what to do. Why bother starting over? Sow the site with salt and move ahead with our lives. There is no need for authority figures with guns telling us what to do.

]]> By: Lester Ness http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/06/30/preparing-the-battlefield-scott-horton-interviews-seymour-hersch/#comment-156108 Lester Ness Fri, 04 Jul 2008 02:04:49 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4385#comment-156108 I don't know about Russia,but I doubt China will do anything military. We are too busy doing productive things like harvesting the wheat, planting the rice, enjoying the new lichees and plums. Guys, don't self-dramatize too much. You aren't going to burn DC or have another Revolution. Most of you are going to sit around, complain, drink beer, shoot the beer bottles -- at the most. The wiser ones will learn to raise your own veggies, fix your own bikes and roofs, sing the Blues. Lester Ness I don’t know about Russia,but I doubt China will do anything military. We are too busy doing productive things like harvesting the wheat, planting the rice, enjoying the new lichees and plums.

Guys, don’t self-dramatize too much. You aren’t going to burn DC or have another Revolution. Most of you are going to sit around, complain, drink beer, shoot the beer bottles — at the most. The wiser ones will learn to raise your own veggies, fix your own bikes and roofs, sing the Blues.

Lester Ness

]]> By: Lester Ness http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/06/30/preparing-the-battlefield-scott-horton-interviews-seymour-hersch/#comment-156107 Lester Ness Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:54:15 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4385#comment-156107 "no end in sight for the Armagadonists!" Because Jesus is not genuinely going to Rapture them away from their troubles. Millenialist fantasies have plagued Christians for 2000 years now. (Think of the First Crusade.) Once they give up (for now), they will get worse. They will probably turn to Reconstructionism, which wants a totally Christian country, like Puritan Massachussetts, but with modern control technology. Lester Ness “no end in sight for the Armagadonists!”

Because Jesus is not genuinely going to Rapture them away from their troubles. Millenialist fantasies have plagued Christians for 2000 years now. (Think of the First Crusade.)

Once they give up (for now), they will get worse. They will probably turn to Reconstructionism, which wants a totally Christian country, like Puritan Massachussetts, but with modern control technology.

Lester Ness

]]> By: the legendary Bill http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/06/30/preparing-the-battlefield-scott-horton-interviews-seymour-hersch/#comment-156101 the legendary Bill Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:28:31 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4385#comment-156101 The U.S. usually does obliterate countries ( God bless the poor Serbs ) that can't fight back and often ( Serbia, Iraq, the C.S.A., etc) don't want any conflict in the first place..But this time perhaps the Russians may jump in and take out our shipping, our Navy in the Gulf, perhaps our satellites-that's all it would take..Iran and Russia are members in the Caspian Sea alliance..The Chinese could also jump in and either help Iran with whom they've negotiated energy contracts or see it as an opportunity to take Taiwan...Of course, in the long run, it would be better for America if Bush's foreign policy fails anyway so why care? And when we're the aggressor who is making the conflict happen how can we just rally around the flags ( U.S. and Israeli )? The U.S. usually does obliterate countries ( God bless the poor Serbs ) that can’t fight back and often ( Serbia, Iraq, the C.S.A., etc) don’t want any conflict in the first place..But this time perhaps the Russians may jump in and take out our shipping, our Navy in the Gulf, perhaps our satellites-that’s all it would take..Iran and Russia are members in the Caspian Sea alliance..The Chinese could also jump in and either help Iran with whom they’ve negotiated energy contracts or see it as an opportunity to take Taiwan…Of course, in the long run, it would be better for America if Bush’s foreign policy fails anyway so why care? And when we’re the aggressor who is making the conflict happen how can we just rally around the flags ( U.S. and Israeli )?

]]> By: Bob Magnant http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/06/30/preparing-the-battlefield-scott-horton-interviews-seymour-hersch/#comment-156066 Bob Magnant Thu, 03 Jul 2008 01:50:55 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4385#comment-156066 Thanks to Hersh’s journalism, “The Last Transition…” (Sept 06) was intended to raise everyone’s awareness to what was already visible about our Iran policy from outside the White House. The first of his New Yorker articles, “The Coming Wars (Jan 05) and “The Iran Plans” (Apr 06), surfaced during Scott McClellan’s White House tour. My book set these events in the global context of post-9/11 America and followed them through the Israel-Lebanon War, which Hersh had addressed in “Watching Lebanon” (Aug 06). While discussing “What Happened” with Keith Olbermann on MSNBC on Memorial Day, former Press Secretary Scott McClellan provided us with insights into the mindset within the Administration. When Olbermann, referring to the White House’s campaign of deception to sell the Iraq war to the American people, asked “Scott, are they doing that now about Iran?” McClellan replied, “I certainly hope that is not the case… we don’t know… I don’t know… but they’re still in this ‘permanent campaign’ mode; they haven’t backed away from that…” Keith continued by asking Scott directly if he would be suspicious of new statements that sounded very similar to what he had heard from within the Administration in 2002 regarding Iraq. McClellan replied, “You would need to take those comments very seriously… and be skeptical.” I suggest that we reread all Hersh’s articles, including “Shifting Targets” (Oct 07) and “A Strike In The Dark” (Feb 08) - while bearing McClellan’s admonition in mind - and be very skeptical. With “Preparing The Battlefield” (July 08), Hersh has handed us his ‘coup de grace’ on Bush’s Iran Initiative for our consideration. Don’t you think it’s about time we heard some serious outrage from more than Hersh? Where are this country’s leaders? Thanks to Hersh’s journalism, “The Last Transition…” (Sept 06) was intended to raise everyone’s awareness to what was already visible about our Iran policy from outside the White House. The first of his New Yorker articles, “The Coming Wars (Jan 05) and “The Iran Plans” (Apr 06), surfaced during Scott McClellan’s White House tour. My book set these events in the global context of post-9/11 America and followed them through the Israel-Lebanon War, which Hersh had addressed in “Watching Lebanon” (Aug 06).

While discussing “What Happened” with Keith Olbermann on MSNBC on Memorial Day, former Press Secretary Scott McClellan provided us with insights into the mindset within the Administration. When Olbermann, referring to the White House’s campaign of deception to sell the Iraq war to the American people, asked “Scott, are they doing that now about Iran?” McClellan replied, “I certainly hope that is not the case… we don’t know… I don’t know… but they’re still in this ‘permanent campaign’ mode; they haven’t backed away from that…” Keith continued by asking Scott directly if he would be suspicious of new statements that sounded very similar to what he had heard from within the Administration in 2002 regarding Iraq. McClellan replied, “You would need to take those comments very seriously… and be skeptical.”

I suggest that we reread all Hersh’s articles, including “Shifting Targets” (Oct 07) and “A Strike In The Dark” (Feb 08) - while bearing McClellan’s admonition in mind - and be very skeptical. With “Preparing The Battlefield” (July 08), Hersh has handed us his ‘coup de grace’ on Bush’s Iran Initiative for our consideration. Don’t you think it’s about time we heard some serious outrage from more than Hersh? Where are this country’s leaders?

]]> By: Lear K http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/06/30/preparing-the-battlefield-scott-horton-interviews-seymour-hersch/#comment-156063 Lear K Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:09:39 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4385#comment-156063 The US has alawys waged war against nations that can not possibly strike back at the US on military grand scale.So the American people will think they have defeated such formidable foes such as Greneada,Panama,Iraq,etc. The US has alawys waged war against nations that can not possibly strike back at the US on military grand scale.So the American people will think they have defeated such formidable foes such as Greneada,Panama,Iraq,etc.

]]> By: little guy http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/06/30/preparing-the-battlefield-scott-horton-interviews-seymour-hersch/#comment-156043 little guy Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:59:00 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4385#comment-156043 Right on julia! Those are my sentiments exactly...Burn Washington to the F#@king ground and start over! Right on julia!

Those are my sentiments exactly…Burn Washington to the F#@king ground and start over!

]]> By: Eugene Costa http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/06/30/preparing-the-battlefield-scott-horton-interviews-seymour-hersch/#comment-156038 Eugene Costa Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:05:19 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4385#comment-156038 Notice--"the people who knocked these buildings down". Curious phrasing. Notice–”the people who knocked these buildings down”.

Curious phrasing.

]]> By: Lear K http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/06/30/preparing-the-battlefield-scott-horton-interviews-seymour-hersch/#comment-156035 Lear K Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:15:27 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4385#comment-156035 The Israeli lobby,the Bush-Cheney oil buddies,Christians-zoinists,and the military indusrials wanted to invade and occupy Iraq.They all got their wish.Iraq is now totally destroyed for the sake of Israel.Iraqi oil is going to totally controlled by the seven sisters oil giants.War will be maintianed to the benefits of the military indusrils.Next is Iran,and then suadi Arabia,and no end in sight for the Armagadonists! The Israeli lobby,the Bush-Cheney oil buddies,Christians-zoinists,and the military indusrials wanted to invade and occupy Iraq.They all got their wish.Iraq is now totally destroyed for the sake of Israel.Iraqi oil is going to totally controlled by the seven sisters oil giants.War will be maintianed to the benefits of the military indusrils.Next is Iran,and then suadi Arabia,and no end in sight for the Armagadonists!

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