Comments on: Candidates Punt on Iraq-Israel http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/07/15/candidates-punt-on-iraq-israel/ Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:16:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Ray McGovern | Antiwar Radio with Scott Horton and Charles Goyette http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/07/15/candidates-punt-on-iraq-israel/#comment-162774 Ray McGovern | Antiwar Radio with Scott Horton and Charles Goyette Sat, 25 Oct 2008 06:15:54 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4408#comment-162774 [...] CIA analyst Ray McGovern discusses his recent article on the probable Israeli/U.S. attack on Iran, Israel’s need for new war in Iran to keep the [...] [...] CIA analyst Ray McGovern discusses his recent article on the probable Israeli/U.S. attack on Iran, Israel’s need for new war in Iran to keep the [...]

]]> By: The War Party’s Credo: Power Before Profits « Dissent Mag http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/07/15/candidates-punt-on-iraq-israel/#comment-158247 The War Party’s Credo: Power Before Profits « Dissent Mag Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:31:31 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4408#comment-158247 [...] effort to drag us into war with Iran, a coordinated and well-financed campaign carried out by the same crowd that was so successful last time around. Whether they succeed or fail depends, at least to some [...] [...] effort to drag us into war with Iran, a coordinated and well-financed campaign carried out by the same crowd that was so successful last time around. Whether they succeed or fail depends, at least to some [...]

]]> By: ScottHortonShow » Antiwar Radio: Ray McGovern http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/07/15/candidates-punt-on-iraq-israel/#comment-157910 ScottHortonShow » Antiwar Radio: Ray McGovern Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:38:41 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4408#comment-157910 [...] CIA analyst Ray McGovern discusses his recent article on the probable Israeli/U.S. attack on Iran, Israel’s need for new war in Iran to keep the U.S. [...] [...] CIA analyst Ray McGovern discusses his recent article on the probable Israeli/U.S. attack on Iran, Israel’s need for new war in Iran to keep the U.S. [...]

]]> By: Tim R. http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/07/15/candidates-punt-on-iraq-israel/#comment-157899 Tim R. Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:42:17 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4408#comment-157899 Weston, I object to it when ANYBODY, including Israel or anybody else intentionally kills innocent civilians. However, this piece of garbage, this low life, this pathetic excuse for a human being, smashed the skull of a little 4 year old girl's head with the butt of his rifle. That was after he shot her father in front of her eyes. And now the President of Lebannon and the Head of Hizzbolah are there to kiss and hug and honor this animal? No, he is not an animal! Animals don't commit these sort of crimes so I shan't slander the animal kingdom by comparing him to animals. He is lower than any animal. And the crowd of thousands comes out to cheer and celebrate this ruthless, cold blooded killer? They are not innocent civilians. They are acomplices after the fact. They are not innocent. Weston, I object to it when ANYBODY, including Israel or anybody else intentionally kills innocent civilians. However, this piece of garbage, this low life, this pathetic excuse for a human being, smashed the skull of a little 4 year old girl’s head with the butt of his rifle. That was after he shot her father in front of her eyes. And now the President of Lebannon and the Head of Hizzbolah are there to kiss and hug and honor this animal? No, he is not an animal! Animals don’t commit these sort of crimes so I shan’t slander the animal kingdom by comparing him to animals. He is lower than any animal. And the crowd of thousands comes out to cheer and celebrate this ruthless, cold blooded killer? They are not innocent civilians. They are acomplices after the fact. They are not innocent.

]]> By: Swami Barmi http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/07/15/candidates-punt-on-iraq-israel/#comment-157892 Swami Barmi Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:40:45 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4408#comment-157892 "Thugs! Low life scum, that is what they are." Wow. Been a while since I've read comments here. Your desperation is very obvious in your ever more overt trolling. When the winning side does nothing but win, people no longer celebrate what is accepted as standard operating procedure. When the oppressed finally begin to win against the world's most prolific villain, you're damn right they're going to celebrate, though for your stupid request for proof of intent regarding Rachel Corrie, I ask you for proof that Muslims celebrate the death of an innocent baby, along with proof that those celebrations you refered to took place where you claim and celebrate what you claim. "I still have those newspapers" lol! And there's no WAY a newspaper can be handed a picture with faultly accompanying information, at least when they support your increasingly delusional fantasies. Stick around Tim. Your increasing desperation is matched by Israel's. There's a reason for their increasing desperation: they know their morally bankrupt fight is a losing battle and with them go their blind supporter losers. The heroic Hezbollah victory is now one of history's famous underdog triumphs, just like North Vietnam's (as ever, things must be explained in detail for you to grasp: a side can win every battle and lose the war ever harder as a result). Unfortunately for us, Hezbollah's was just one battle in a lost war that ultimately all of us Americans will pay for, as all of us little guys lose everything to the powerful few who'll clean up to the expense of the suckers like you who helped them along. Within all the suffering to come I look forward to seeing you come down with the rest of us. It will be one source of gratification within our worlds of misery. “Thugs! Low life scum, that is what they are.”

Wow. Been a while since I’ve read comments here. Your desperation is very obvious in your ever more overt trolling.

When the winning side does nothing but win, people no longer celebrate what is accepted as standard operating procedure. When the oppressed finally begin to win against the world’s most prolific villain, you’re damn right they’re going to celebrate, though for your stupid request for proof of intent regarding Rachel Corrie, I ask you for proof that Muslims celebrate the death of an innocent baby, along with proof that those celebrations you refered to took place where you claim and celebrate what you claim. “I still have those newspapers” lol! And there’s no WAY a newspaper can be handed a picture with faultly accompanying information, at least when they support your increasingly delusional fantasies.

Stick around Tim. Your increasing desperation is matched by Israel’s. There’s a reason for their increasing desperation: they know their morally bankrupt fight is a losing battle and with them go their blind supporter losers. The heroic Hezbollah victory is now one of history’s famous underdog triumphs, just like North Vietnam’s (as ever, things must be explained in detail for you to grasp: a side can win every battle and lose the war ever harder as a result). Unfortunately for us, Hezbollah’s was just one battle in a lost war that ultimately all of us Americans will pay for, as all of us little guys lose everything to the powerful few who’ll clean up to the expense of the suckers like you who helped them along. Within all the suffering to come I look forward to seeing you come down with the rest of us. It will be one source of gratification within our worlds of misery.

]]> By: weston http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/07/15/candidates-punt-on-iraq-israel/#comment-157887 weston Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:10:52 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4408#comment-157887 Tim, it's almost like you aren't aware that atrocities have been committed by both sides. I don't think anyone's been telling you that the <i>radical</i> Muslims are peaceful. I think they've been telling you that not all Muslims are radical. And now here you are, advocating a form of violent retribution against this man--bombing him in a public ceremony--that would likely kill many innocent civilians. It's almost like the pot is calling the kettle black. Tim, it’s almost like you aren’t aware that atrocities have been committed by both sides. I don’t think anyone’s been telling you that the radical Muslims are peaceful. I think they’ve been telling you that not all Muslims are radical. And now here you are, advocating a form of violent retribution against this man–bombing him in a public ceremony–that would likely kill many innocent civilians. It’s almost like the pot is calling the kettle black.

]]> By: Tim R. http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/07/15/candidates-punt-on-iraq-israel/#comment-157875 Tim R. Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:14:55 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4408#comment-157875 R. Nelson, Do you have any proof that the Rachel Corrie case was intentional? And if it was then yes it was murder and the guy who did it is just as much of a murderous thug. Second, question, were there celebrations in Israel to honor the guy in the bulldozer for what he did? When was the last time Israeli's celebrated when someone killed an innocent baby? But in Lebannon and elsewhere the Muslims actually celebrate this stuff. I still have newspapers that I held on to in the days following 9/11/01 and I can see for myself the pictures of the Muslims on the west bank and in Lebannon celebrating as it if were a national holiday. I still have those newspapers so no one can tell me otherwise. And I still vividly remember the scenes of celebration on CNN. Thugs! Low life scum, that is what they are. R. Nelson,

Do you have any proof that the Rachel Corrie case was intentional? And if it was then yes it was murder and the guy who did it is just as much of a murderous thug.

Second, question, were there celebrations in Israel to honor the guy in the bulldozer for what he did? When was the last time Israeli’s celebrated when someone killed an innocent baby? But in Lebannon and elsewhere the Muslims actually celebrate this stuff. I still have newspapers that I held on to in the days following 9/11/01 and I can see for myself the pictures of the Muslims on the west bank and in Lebannon celebrating as it if were a national holiday. I still have those newspapers so no one can tell me otherwise. And I still vividly remember the scenes of celebration on CNN.

Thugs! Low life scum, that is what they are.

]]> By: R. Nelson http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/07/15/candidates-punt-on-iraq-israel/#comment-157873 R. Nelson Sun, 20 Jul 2008 06:34:52 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4408#comment-157873 Maybe after bombing this released Palestinian someone should execute the Israeli who ground Rachel Corrie into the dirt with his bulldozer, right? Maybe after bombing this released Palestinian someone should execute the Israeli who ground Rachel Corrie into the dirt with his bulldozer, right?

]]> By: Ali http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/07/15/candidates-punt-on-iraq-israel/#comment-157835 Ali Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:16:31 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4408#comment-157835 Ah, Pat Buchanan. I can remember him urging Americans not to "Abandon America" and vote for the Republican Party's candidate the second time George W. Bush was trying to get elected to the White House. Perhaps that is the problem with America, really. The part of it that does, bangs on about Israel like mad, and then when the time comes, guess what, Israel IS your ally. Ah, Pat Buchanan. I can remember him urging Americans not to “Abandon America” and vote for the Republican Party’s candidate the second time George W. Bush was trying to get elected to the White House. Perhaps that is the problem with America, really. The part of it that does, bangs on about Israel like mad, and then when the time comes, guess what, Israel IS your ally.

]]> By: Tim R. http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/07/15/candidates-punt-on-iraq-israel/#comment-157819 Tim R. Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:52:57 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4408#comment-157819 Israel recently and inexplicably released some Islamo terrorist thugs in exchange for the bodies of soldiers. One of these low life SCUM thugs shot a man in front of his four year old daughter in 1979. Then after murdering her father he took the butt of his rifle and violently smashed the little girls skull into about 500 pieces. During the same raid an infant was smothered to death by her own mother who was trying to keep her from crying as they hid in a crawl space. So what happens when he gets back to Lebannon? They cheer for him. They celebrate. They hug and kiss this baby killer as if he were a heroe. Well, you know what? For all those on here who keep telling me how peaceful these radical Muslim scum are, that they are no more violent and ruthless then Christians or Jews, that we just need to talk to them, you know what I say? Bullshit! If Israel or the West had any guts they would have dropped abomb right on this guys head as he was being honored by the President of Lebannon and Nasrallah, that low life scum who is the head of Hizzbolah. Israel recently and inexplicably released some Islamo terrorist thugs in exchange for the bodies of soldiers. One of these low life SCUM thugs shot a man in front of his four year old daughter in 1979. Then after murdering her father he took the butt of his rifle and violently smashed the little girls skull into about 500 pieces. During the same raid an infant was smothered to death by her own mother who was trying to keep her from crying as they hid in a crawl space.

So what happens when he gets back to Lebannon? They cheer for him. They celebrate. They hug and kiss this baby killer as if he were a heroe. Well, you know what? For all those on here who keep telling me how peaceful these radical Muslim scum are, that they are no more violent and ruthless then Christians or Jews, that we just need to talk to them, you know what I say? Bullshit!

If Israel or the West had any guts they would have dropped abomb right on this guys head as he was being honored by the President of Lebannon and Nasrallah, that low life scum who is the head of Hizzbolah.

]]> By: Kimo Crossman http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/07/15/candidates-punt-on-iraq-israel/#comment-157586 Kimo Crossman Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:00:16 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4408#comment-157586 My take is that Pelosi and Conyers would love to Impeach the President but they want to make sure there is general public support for it. By having the unofficial Impeachment hearings they can test the waters and they can let the President know they are serious about Conyers' letter promising to Impeach the President if the US Invades Iraq. Because no one wants another war. See here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/19/conyers-impeachment-if-b_n_92329.html My take is that Pelosi and Conyers would love to Impeach the President but they want to make sure there is general public support for it. By having the unofficial Impeachment hearings they can test the waters and they can let the President know they are serious about Conyers’ letter promising to Impeach the President if the US Invades Iraq. Because no one wants another war.

See here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/19/conyers-impeachment-if-b_n_92329.html

]]> By: Lear K http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/07/15/candidates-punt-on-iraq-israel/#comment-157395 Lear K Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:38:03 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4408#comment-157395 The Israel Lobby: http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html The Israel Lobby:

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html

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