Comments on: Do as we say, not as we do: gasoline edition http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/07/15/do-as-we-say-not-as-we-do-gasoline-edition/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:13:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Sac longchamp http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/07/15/do-as-we-say-not-as-we-do-gasoline-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-265924 Sac longchamp Thu, 24 Nov 2011 09:10:42 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4402#comment-265924 Une fois de plus grand poste. Vous semblez avoir une bonne compréhension de cesthemes.Come sur et garder sur votre écriture blog.expecting pour quelque chose de plus attrayant. Une fois de plus grand poste. Vous semblez avoir une bonne compréhension de cesthemes.Come sur et garder sur votre écriture blog.expecting pour quelque chose de plus attrayant.

]]> By: Lancel http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/07/15/do-as-we-say-not-as-we-do-gasoline-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-263458 Lancel Fri, 18 Nov 2011 07:08:11 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4402#comment-263458 Très bon post. Je viens de tombé sur votre blog et je voulais vous dire que j'ai vraiment apprécié la lecture de votre blog. De toute façon je vais vous abonnant à votre flux, et j'espère que vous publiez à nouveau bientôt. Très bon post. Je viens de tombé sur votre blog et je voulais vous dire que j'ai vraiment apprécié la lecture de votre blog. De toute façon je vais vous abonnant à votre flux, et j'espère que vous publiez à nouveau bientôt.

]]> By: prada http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/07/15/do-as-we-say-not-as-we-do-gasoline-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-262946 prada Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:11:24 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4402#comment-262946 Bene, questa è la mia prima visita al tuo blog! Siamo un gruppo di volontari e di iniziare una nuova iniziativa in una comunità nella stessa nicchia. Il tuo blog ci ha fornito preziose informazioni su cui lavorare. Avete fatto un lavoro meraviglioso! Bene, questa è la mia prima visita al tuo blog! Siamo un gruppo di volontari e di iniziare una nuova iniziativa in una comunità nella stessa nicchia. Il tuo blog ci ha fornito preziose informazioni su cui lavorare. Avete fatto un lavoro meraviglioso!

]]> By: Bill K. http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/07/15/do-as-we-say-not-as-we-do-gasoline-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-158067 Bill K. Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:40:43 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4402#comment-158067 The Romans had a saying: "Si vis pacem, para bellum" - if you want peace prepare for war. That is something the US Generals say they believe in. But that is only half of it. The Romans prepared for war, and then waged war for centuries non-stop and even against their own, until they began encountering enemies that also prepared for war. And then all their warmongering led to defeat and collapse. If you only prepare for war, then you will see potential enemies around you all the time. If you are the hammer then everything else is a nail from your point of view. That is all you hear from the Pentagon "enhanced warfighting in the future battlefield" et cetera. They seem to fantasize more about bombs blasting orphanages to rubble than little boys playing war. The US Department of "Defense" no longer remembers what that last word means. Wars of Aggression against weak foes are not called "defense". I agree with the first poster. War will only contribute to the problem and make more war for fewer resources "necessary". The Romans had a saying:
“Si vis pacem, para bellum” – if you want peace prepare for war. That is something the US Generals say they believe in.

But that is only half of it. The Romans prepared for war, and then waged war for centuries non-stop and even against their own, until they began encountering enemies that also prepared for war. And then all their warmongering led to defeat and collapse.

If you only prepare for war, then you will see potential enemies around you all the time. If you are the hammer then everything else is a nail from your point of view. That is all you hear from the Pentagon “enhanced warfighting in the future battlefield” et cetera. They seem to fantasize more about bombs blasting orphanages to rubble than little boys playing war. The US Department of “Defense” no longer remembers what that last word means. Wars of Aggression against weak foes are not called “defense”.

I agree with the first poster. War will only contribute to the problem and make more war for fewer resources “necessary”.

]]> By: justaguy http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/07/15/do-as-we-say-not-as-we-do-gasoline-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-157492 justaguy Fri, 18 Jul 2008 03:10:56 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4402#comment-157492 But, but, but Timmy, those nasty Saudis (the Bin Ladens in particular) are the Bush family's best buddies and long term business partners. But, but, but Timmy, those nasty Saudis (the Bin Ladens in particular) are the Bush family’s best buddies and long term business partners.

]]> By: liberranter http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/07/15/do-as-we-say-not-as-we-do-gasoline-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-157193 liberranter Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:19:59 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4402#comment-157193 And of course the fact that this is being done by the enforcement arm of the Amerikan State while attempting to expand the Empire's power exempts these polluters from scrutiny by or sanction from Leviathan's enviro-nannycops. And of course the fact that this is being done by the enforcement arm of the Amerikan State while attempting to expand the Empire’s power exempts these polluters from scrutiny by or sanction from Leviathan’s enviro-nannycops.

]]> By: richard vajs http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/07/15/do-as-we-say-not-as-we-do-gasoline-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-157134 richard vajs Wed, 16 Jul 2008 02:27:45 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4402#comment-157134 Tim R, The majority of our oil doesn't come from Saudi Arabia - it comes from Canada, Mexico, and Venezuela. So why this hatred towards the Saudis. I guess it just some more of your Zionist anti-Arab racism. That is what Zionism is - Jewish racism. Listening to it reminds me of when I briefly lived in Mississippi 50 years ago. The same language to describe blacks and deny them civil rights, we now hear from folks like you spoken to justify stealing land from the Palestinians. The proceeding of AIPAC might as well be from a convention of White Citizens Councils of some 50 years ago. Israel is (or should be) an embrrassment to fair minded Jews. As to what to do about oil, we need to move on now from oil. As an electrical engineer, I keep up with solar power advancements. Every year, the cost to generate a killowatt of electrical power by solar declines about 20 %. In 5 years, there could be a cross-over. Several months ago Scientific American presented a working plan to convert America's power generation from fossil fuels to wind/solar. Nuclear power has so many problems with disposal as to be a non-contender. Anyway, it was estimated that for a $400 B investment, generation and distribution to adequately meet America's energy needs could be built. Will it happen? Not as long as big oil can hold things up until they liquidate their investments and gain control of the new energy it won't. Big oil won't sit there like IBM while guys like Gates and Jobs eats their lunch. And which side will our government be on. Well POTUS and McInsane are touting more oil exploration and nuclear power. Several weeks ago, an electrical engineering trade journal reported that the BLM announced a moratorium on solar research on BLM land until "the environmental impact can be studied for the next two years". The levels of scientific outrage were so loud that now BLM denies their own announcement. But expect more of this Luddite stalling. Tim R,
The majority of our oil doesn’t come from Saudi Arabia – it comes from Canada, Mexico, and Venezuela. So why this hatred towards the Saudis. I guess it just some more of your Zionist anti-Arab racism. That is what Zionism is – Jewish racism. Listening to it reminds me of when I briefly lived in Mississippi 50 years ago. The same language to describe blacks and deny them civil rights, we now hear from folks like you spoken to justify stealing land from the Palestinians. The proceeding of AIPAC might as well be from a convention of White Citizens Councils of some 50 years ago. Israel is (or should be) an embrrassment to fair minded Jews.
As to what to do about oil, we need to move on now from oil. As an electrical engineer, I keep up with solar power advancements. Every year, the cost to generate a killowatt of electrical power by solar declines about 20 %. In 5 years, there could be a cross-over. Several months ago Scientific American presented a working plan to convert America’s power generation from fossil fuels to wind/solar. Nuclear power has so many problems with disposal as to be a non-contender. Anyway, it was estimated that for a $400 B investment, generation and distribution to adequately meet America’s energy needs could be built. Will it happen? Not as long as big oil can hold things up until they liquidate their investments and gain control of the new energy it won’t. Big oil won’t sit there like IBM while guys like Gates and Jobs eats their lunch. And which side will our government be on. Well POTUS and McInsane are touting more oil exploration and nuclear power. Several weeks ago, an electrical engineering trade journal reported that the BLM announced a moratorium on solar research on BLM land until “the environmental impact can be studied for the next two years”. The levels of scientific outrage were so loud that now BLM denies their own announcement. But expect more of this Luddite stalling.

]]> By: Lear K http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/07/15/do-as-we-say-not-as-we-do-gasoline-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-157133 Lear K Wed, 16 Jul 2008 01:30:44 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4402#comment-157133 Oil and Racism http://www.counterpunch.org/fiyouzat06132008.html Oil and Racism

http://www.counterpunch.org/fiyouzat06132008.html

]]> By: Lear K http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/07/15/do-as-we-say-not-as-we-do-gasoline-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-157132 Lear K Wed, 16 Jul 2008 01:24:47 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4402#comment-157132 What's Really Driving the High Price of Oil? http://www.counterpunch.org/nader05282008.html Why Oil Prices Are So High the two biggest factors in oil’s high price are the weakness in the US dollar’s exchange value and the liquidity that the Federal Reserve is pumping out." http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts06112008.html " What’s Really Driving the High Price of Oil?

http://www.counterpunch.org/nader05282008.html

Why Oil Prices Are So High
the two biggest factors in oil’s high price are the weakness in the US dollar’s exchange value and the liquidity that the Federal Reserve is pumping out.”

http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts06112008.html

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]]> By: Lear K http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/07/15/do-as-we-say-not-as-we-do-gasoline-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-157131 Lear K Wed, 16 Jul 2008 01:22:25 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=4402#comment-157131 Why Oil Prices Are So High : "How to explain the oil price? Why is it so high? Are we running out? Are supplies disrupted, or is the high price a reflection of oil company greed or OPEC greed. Are Chavez and the Saudis conspiring against us? In my opinion, the two biggest factors in oil’s high price are the weakness in the US dollar’s exchange value and the liquidity that the Federal Reserve is pumping out... The run up in oil price coincides with a period of heightened US and Israeli military aggression in the Middle East. However, the biggest jump has been in the last 18 months." http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts06112008.html "In an ironic twist, the major price determinant has moved from OPEC (having only 40% of the world production) and the oil companies to the speculators in the commodities markets. What goes on in the essentially unregulated New York Mercantile Exchange (NYMEX)—without Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) enforced margin requirements, and, unlike your personal purchases, untaxed—is now the place that leads to your skyrocketing gasoline bills. OPEC and the Big Oil companies reap the benefits and say that it’s not their doing, but that of the speculators. Gives new meaning to “passing the buck.” http://www.counterpunch.org/nader05282008.html Why Oil Prices Are So High :

“How to explain the oil price? Why is it so high? Are we running out? Are supplies disrupted, or is the high price a reflection of oil company greed or OPEC greed. Are Chavez and the Saudis conspiring against us?
In my opinion, the two biggest factors in oil’s high price are the weakness in the US dollar’s exchange value and the liquidity that the Federal Reserve is pumping out…
The run up in oil price coincides with a period of heightened US and Israeli military aggression in the Middle East. However, the biggest jump has been in the last 18 months.”

http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts06112008.html

“In an ironic twist, the major price determinant has moved from OPEC (having only 40% of the world production) and the oil companies to the speculators in the commodities markets. What goes on in the essentially unregulated New York Mercantile Exchange (NYMEX)—without Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) enforced margin requirements, and, unlike your personal purchases, untaxed—is now the place that leads to your skyrocketing gasoline bills. OPEC and the Big Oil companies reap the benefits and say that it’s not their doing, but that of the speculators. Gives new meaning to “passing the buck.”

http://www.counterpunch.org/nader05282008.html

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