The very similar was said after the collapse of USSR – “in the very wildest fantasies CIA…”

Now – I still think the reforms done in Russia were good after all. There is more freedom and life is more fun. And I have all reasons to believe that Russia would not act to complicate the reforms in the US. I mean – just increasing trade between Russia and the US would be very beneficial to the US – I absolutely believe there are millions of people in the US that are capable of constructive, quality work, producing real goods – and as soon the the energy wasted on War against World would be applied elsewhere the US can easily emerge as a healthy superpower – but NOT as The Empire it is today.

So – McCaine and Palin are both insane (crazy, stupid, limited). Obama and Co. are not. Both are “pro-Empire”. Both are enemies of my personal freedoms (and Russia, as one of few place where one can be somewhat free from the US rule).

Speaking of Palin’s statement about “war with Russia”. First – does she mean nuclear war? Does she understand that for US war direct war with Russia is one very bad choice (UK Empire never did that, and for a good reason) – which would leave to US collapse one way or another – since there are 3 possible outcomes:
a) Russia wins conventional combat operation (similar to Georgia situation) – total loss of US military creadibility
b) Russia starts loosing conventional combat operation – the uses tactical nuclear weapon against US Army
c) US decides to use tactical nuclear weapon as a result of loosing conventional combat
=> either US looses face and military authority OR US suffers full blown nuclear strike – both ways US does not exist as a major super power as a result of “war with Russia”

Russia though had shown amazing power to come back and survive and regain – very recently (90s). Russia does not have reputation at stake. Even nuclear attack on Russia would not eliminate all the natural resources or wast territory, which are the main assets.

But – it seems that Palin does not even start to think about the above when talking about “war with Russia” because of Georgia, of all places :-) Georgia is really Russia’s backyard and Russia traditionally has tremendous, almost mystical power in it’s backyard… I mean – the “Art of War” anybody? What about choosing the place and time for the battle wisely?

Who is more likely to influence that choise wisely – McCain/Palin or Obama and Co. ?

“We will not repeat a Cold War,” Palin said

[AP September 11, 2008, article on Antiwar front page]

From the context she clearly must mean HOT WAR.

She sounds more and more like a Likudite, indulging in what Putin called political pornography.

Recall, Vassili, these lunatics are looking forward to a “Rapture” that is not definable sub-celestially. Are you sure the Russian Federation prefers McCain? Putin seems to suggest otherwise.

Little Guy

No one knows the future though some things are roughly predictable. I strongly suspect that the docility and helplessness of the population one saw in New Orleans was atypical, and due partly to the fact that it was a flood and mobility and collective action were limited.

What that might mean in terms of the scenarios Little Guy suggests will remain unsaid for the nonce.

I did not watch either convention but from tapes that I saw I was struck by the homogeneity of the troopers sent to strike preemptively against various demonstrations. Were they all Iraq veterans with training from Blackwater?

The whole picture, to my mind, was designed to intimidate, not only the demonstrators, but the American audiences watching on television and other outlets.

Will it work?

Not in any large-scale or long term collapse.

Why would it? Much more formidable military forces were dispatched to Iraq and Afghanistan and with what result? Both wars are now lost.

Whatever the Fascists left or right have in mind it is, after Ali, hallucinatory. The question is only how much loss of life and substance will occur before they lose.

I doubt that the incompetent elite, which is the source of the problem, will give up what they consider “power” voluntarily. That is part of their incompetence, unlike, say, the Samurai class in Japan.

On the other hand, whatever they do, they cannot pull oil at $19 per barrel out of a hat or pay in worthless paper what the Russians and Chinese and Japanese expect to be paid in a viable currency.

On verra.

Even were Obama a genius, with all the right instincts, I doubt that either he or the Democrats will be able to resolve the problems plaguing the country. McCain and Palin, and the Neo-Cons and the Born Again Zionists and Corporate Fascists, on the other hand, from past experience, will not only cause problems much worse (it is one Israeli and Neo-Con modus operandi solve a problem by making it worse) but increase them a hundredfold.

Moreover, the USD is no longer the world reserve currency but only an alternative.

In effect the price of a barrel of oil is determining world currency exchange rates, and constitutes, in effect, a virtual world commodity currency.

As Paul Craig Roberts points out, only just over 10% of Americans work at jobs in which exportable goods are even produced, let alone wholly exported.

With two losing wars and a restart of a new Cold War this spells total disaster.

The old Soviet KGB in their wildest fantasies could not have done the damage to the US Bush and Cheney have done in a mere eight years.

The Russians and the Chinese will help the american sheeple wake up…and it will be a very rude awakening indeed. China has but to cast a vote of non-confidence (start dumping it’s vast dollar holdings) in the dollar to vaporize the US economy. The american sheeple need money to keep themselves warm and snuggley in their pleasure cocoons…take away their pleasure and watch them go ape-sh!t on each other! lol XD

You saw what happened during the hurricane Katrina disaster, right? Multiply that by a million and you’ll begin to understand what the good ‘ol US of f#&kin’ A will be be like in the aftermath of a coordinated Chinese/Russian economic attack! The US is a powder keg and they’re [Russia/China] gonna light the fuse.

At any rate, that’s what I meant by “help”. I view it as a form of social therapy…albeit a highly destructive and unbearably painful one. After completing the regimen though, I’ll bet the American people will never ever let their government get out of control again! ;)

I haven’t seen the 9/11 documentary you mentioned…but I’ve seen just about all the others, including the one to be aired tonight on prime-time Russian TV.

So – with Obama Cold War-2 is very likely. Is that good for the US? Is that good for Russia?

It IS good for Russia – reversing West imposed policies would be only good – for example – current minister of finances, long term proponent of the West is doing 2 things – keeps foreign currency reserves in US Govt debt and opposes the elimination of awful Added-Value-Tax – which is strongly supported by IMF – and it’s simple with IMF – listen to their “advise” and do the opposite – that is simple way to better economy. If US/Russia relations are trashed, then that person may disappear – good for Russia.

What about the US though? Simple logic tells that if Cold War-1 was won by the US, then chances are that Cold War-2 will be won by Russia. That will make the US reginal power, and people in the US will get more freedom – empires and freedom don’t go together.

But that means that Russia would be more of an empire, and less freedom would result.

So… it’s bad both ways – but McCain is a safer bet – for one re-election of Republican party would show the futility of the idea of “democracy” in a clear way.

Anyways, empires fall apart no matter what. There is no graceful way out of this situation. USA is not Russia (USSR) and I don’t believe any other country on this planet has that much inner resilience to overcome a collapse of such magnitude and stay alive.

And… do you think Putin has something he can disclose about 9/11? I bet he knew it all the way – and that may be the reason why Bush read something in his eyes.

Yes, I’ve left the US after 9/11 and airport humiliation.

Today though I was very disappointed by Medvedev’s speech relating to 9/11 where he confirmed Russia’s commitment to “fight terrorism”. Since I don’t believe 9/11 was an act of terrorism… and I can’t believe he is so naive to believe it… I wonder how to interpret that statement.

But – the heroin production in Afganistan went several times up since the US involvement.

Oil-fetish and heroin – well – also fetish – that’s what US had given to the world (in addition to good things such as nuclear weapons, computers and the Internet :-). Time to get over the first two if US wants to exist in 20 years as major power.

And now Paul, after doing nothing but collecting $30 million and defusing the antiwar vote and waffling on impeachment, has come out and told his supporters to vote for Third Party candidates, including Nader?

After Paul Craig Roberts, without impeachment of the criminals Bush and Cheney, the only accountability is to vote negatively, to destroy the Republican Party.

Every Constitutionalist and every anti-war vote that goes to a Third Party only helps McCain–to get it close enough so Rove and the Neo-Cons can try to steal another election.

Paul has lost all credibility as anything but a shill. By every Constitutional principle he has ever espoused, Bush and Cheney are criminals. And yet he does nothing.

He could easily have given a speech making it clear that though he had no faith in Obama, with the country on the verge of economic collapse, with two losing wars and a new cold war on the horizon–all brought to you by the Republican Party–the Republican Party had to be held accountable and completely destroyed in the coming election.

I urge all Paul supporters, who are obviously far more principled than Paul himself, to think seriously about Paul Craig Robert’s proposal, and to cast a negative vote against the Repbulicans by voting for Obama.

In fact, the real prospect of a vigorous Third Party, and perhaps a Fourth and a Fifth, hinges on rendering the Republican Party accountable for what it has done for the last eight years.

The Democrats have also gone along with it and are responsible too. But do you seriously want a Republican Party of Neo-Cons, Born Again Zionists, and Corporate Fascists given another term?

If a very large chunk of the Nth. American people havn’t woken up by now they are not going to wake up at all!

Just watched this morning, a documentary called “9/11 The press for truth” made in 2006 and partly based on Paul Thompson’s 9/11 Time Line. I don’t know if your allowed to see truthful doco’s such as this in the good ole USofA, but it only takes a few minutes to realise that you in the “States” have a completely and utterly corrupt Government.(as we have known for many years before this doco)

That large chunk of people voted in this corrupted R party TWICE! Speaks volumes for the brain power (or lack thereof ) of these morons.(Voting machines notwithstanding)

Little guy, you will get little help ( or none ) from outside the continental US because your damage has gone way too far.

It appears that even Obama is waivering under the pressure of these R bastards.

Stay safe, If you can!!