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	<title>Comments on: Palin Revives Bush&#8217;s Most Lethal Lie</title>
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		<title>By: Joseph Crowe</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/09/12/palin-revives-bushs-most-lethal-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-161491</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Crowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 02:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One Eugene Costa wrote:
&quot;As I have been saying for some time, one measure that should be undertaken immediately is the nationalization of oil in order to disattach the price of oil on the international market from the currency.&quot;

   That&#039;s about as disturbing a statement as I have read in a long time. It&#039;s bad enough that the U.S. imperium has in effect nationalized the mortgage market. For further such actions to take place would surely place us in the same philosophical arena as Mussolini&#039;s Italy and Hitler&#039;s Germany. 

   To drag this back to Palin, one must dispassionately observer her record and her actions since joining the McCain ticket. Palin is most definitely not libertarian in any manner. That may have been somewhat hidden by her obscurity before she became a national politician, but both her actions in Alaska and her pronouncements WRT the Georgia/Ossetia/Russia events and elsewhere indicate that she is no libertarian. Not even close. It is going to be a disaster, regardless of who gets into office in 2009, but McCain/Palin is more of the same old imperial, loss of liberties, massive debts, psychotic posturing from the religious reich that Bush made famous.
You folks might want to have a look at Chalmers Johnson&#039;s Blowback trilogy by the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One Eugene Costa wrote:<br />
&#8220;As I have been saying for some time, one measure that should be undertaken immediately is the nationalization of oil in order to disattach the price of oil on the international market from the currency.&#8221;</p>
<p>   That&#8217;s about as disturbing a statement as I have read in a long time. It&#8217;s bad enough that the U.S. imperium has in effect nationalized the mortgage market. For further such actions to take place would surely place us in the same philosophical arena as Mussolini&#8217;s Italy and Hitler&#8217;s Germany. </p>
<p>   To drag this back to Palin, one must dispassionately observer her record and her actions since joining the McCain ticket. Palin is most definitely not libertarian in any manner. That may have been somewhat hidden by her obscurity before she became a national politician, but both her actions in Alaska and her pronouncements WRT the Georgia/Ossetia/Russia events and elsewhere indicate that she is no libertarian. Not even close. It is going to be a disaster, regardless of who gets into office in 2009, but McCain/Palin is more of the same old imperial, loss of liberties, massive debts, psychotic posturing from the religious reich that Bush made famous.<br />
You folks might want to have a look at Chalmers Johnson&#8217;s Blowback trilogy by the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Costa</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/09/12/palin-revives-bushs-most-lethal-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-161340</link>
		<dc:creator>Eugene Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bernanke helped make this worse by lowering interest rates initially when sub-prime collapsed.

He did that to save the banks and the financial institutions that were key in causing the collapse.

Like Greenspan, he was so disconnected from ANY idea of the real state of the economy, and especially the effects of the increase of the price of oil, he actually seemed to think that lowering interests rates would increase demand in real estate as well.

As I have been saying for some time, one measure that should be undertaken immediately is the nationalization of oil in order to disattach the price of oil on the international market from the currency.

But this will cure nothing-- 66 percent of US oil is imported. At most it will give a little breathing space.

The other measure that should be taken is to raise interest rates appreciably and very quickly.  The trouble with that is that things are so far gone it may not help that much in the short-term, and there may be no long term.

The incompetents boldly saunter forward swashing their paper swords.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bernanke helped make this worse by lowering interest rates initially when sub-prime collapsed.</p>
<p>He did that to save the banks and the financial institutions that were key in causing the collapse.</p>
<p>Like Greenspan, he was so disconnected from ANY idea of the real state of the economy, and especially the effects of the increase of the price of oil, he actually seemed to think that lowering interests rates would increase demand in real estate as well.</p>
<p>As I have been saying for some time, one measure that should be undertaken immediately is the nationalization of oil in order to disattach the price of oil on the international market from the currency.</p>
<p>But this will cure nothing&#8211; 66 percent of US oil is imported. At most it will give a little breathing space.</p>
<p>The other measure that should be taken is to raise interest rates appreciably and very quickly.  The trouble with that is that things are so far gone it may not help that much in the short-term, and there may be no long term.</p>
<p>The incompetents boldly saunter forward swashing their paper swords.</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Costa</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/09/12/palin-revives-bushs-most-lethal-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-161339</link>
		<dc:creator>Eugene Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The money is safe in the sense that should you ask for it the banks simply borrow from the Federal Reserve to pay you. The problem--though it is safe as &quot;currency&quot; it is decreasing in value as a set &quot;denominated unit of exchange&quot;.

So there will be no repeat of 1929. It might well be much worse. More like Weimar. Everyone will have enormous amounts of money, but it won&#039;t be worth much. 

Social spending and welfare had little or nothing to do with the collapse.  The war in Iraq was the precipitating event.  

Add this little tidbit: on September 8, Brazil and Argentina signed an agreement to stop using dollars in their bilateral trade.

Adios, USD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The money is safe in the sense that should you ask for it the banks simply borrow from the Federal Reserve to pay you. The problem&#8211;though it is safe as &#8220;currency&#8221; it is decreasing in value as a set &#8220;denominated unit of exchange&#8221;.</p>
<p>So there will be no repeat of 1929. It might well be much worse. More like Weimar. Everyone will have enormous amounts of money, but it won&#8217;t be worth much. </p>
<p>Social spending and welfare had little or nothing to do with the collapse.  The war in Iraq was the precipitating event.  </p>
<p>Add this little tidbit: on September 8, Brazil and Argentina signed an agreement to stop using dollars in their bilateral trade.</p>
<p>Adios, USD.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Blalock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Blalock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best description of Palin I have read yet comes
from Will Grigg when he described her as a &quot;stalking horse.&quot;
The neocons are not just hiding from us, they are
literally stalking us and the intent is deadly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best description of Palin I have read yet comes<br />
from Will Grigg when he described her as a &#8220;stalking horse.&#8221;<br />
The neocons are not just hiding from us, they are<br />
literally stalking us and the intent is deadly.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Blalock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Blalock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that the American public has been 
throughly brainwashed about 9-11 and
Iraq, why not invite one of them to
be V.P.?

Do people think she was selected for
her grasp on the facts? If so, this
interview should dispell that hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that the American public has been<br />
throughly brainwashed about 9-11 and<br />
Iraq, why not invite one of them to<br />
be V.P.?</p>
<p>Do people think she was selected for<br />
her grasp on the facts? If so, this<br />
interview should dispell that hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Will C. Justice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will C. Justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not a young man, but never in my lifetime have I seen anything as reminiscent of Hoover&#039;s Great Depression as America today--banks failing and hundreds of thousands of Americans losing their homes.  For the first time in my lifetime, people are worried about whether the money they have in the bank is safe. 

This nation cannot afford four more years of Republican rule.  And there&#039;s one big reason. 

Forget personalities, inexperience. racism, sexism, and war hero talk.   It&#039;s the ideas that the candidates and the parties cherish that really matter.

The same ideas that produced the Hoover Depression are alive and well in today&#039;s Republican party--no taxes for the rich, subsidies for big corporations, no government regulation by the federal government, and the supremacy of states rights. 

Change the name from Hoover to McCain to Palin on  the economy, and the answers they give are interchangeable.

I’ve shortened my comments here because I know I’m blogging, but if you want to see more on this subject, go to a great website I found with the url www.howtotalkback.  

I personally heard Rush Limbaugh say that it was his goal to undo everything that FDR did. 

Now it&#039;s no secret that nobody has more influence over Republican thought than Rush.  And it&#039;s no secret what Rush believes: government is bad and federal regulation is a plague. 

But I wonder if Rush realizes that the FDIC--a program of the federal government put in place by FDR--is the main thing right now that&#039;s keeping America from an economic collapse.

One of my friends asked me why I wasn&#039;t voting Republican.  &quot;Don&#039;t you want to keep more of your money?&quot;

My answer?  If Republicans continue to rule, and they follow the Hoover, McCain, Palin script, AND THE BANKS FAIL, neither she nor I will have any money to keep.

What we need is a President who sounds like FDR, not a Hoover sound-alike. 
--Will C. Justice</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a young man, but never in my lifetime have I seen anything as reminiscent of Hoover&#8217;s Great Depression as America today&#8211;banks failing and hundreds of thousands of Americans losing their homes.  For the first time in my lifetime, people are worried about whether the money they have in the bank is safe. </p>
<p>This nation cannot afford four more years of Republican rule.  And there&#8217;s one big reason. </p>
<p>Forget personalities, inexperience. racism, sexism, and war hero talk.   It&#8217;s the ideas that the candidates and the parties cherish that really matter.</p>
<p>The same ideas that produced the Hoover Depression are alive and well in today&#8217;s Republican party&#8211;no taxes for the rich, subsidies for big corporations, no government regulation by the federal government, and the supremacy of states rights. </p>
<p>Change the name from Hoover to McCain to Palin on  the economy, and the answers they give are interchangeable.</p>
<p>I’ve shortened my comments here because I know I’m blogging, but if you want to see more on this subject, go to a great website I found with the url <a href="http://www.howtotalkback" rel="nofollow">http://www.howtotalkback</a>.  </p>
<p>I personally heard Rush Limbaugh say that it was his goal to undo everything that FDR did. </p>
<p>Now it&#8217;s no secret that nobody has more influence over Republican thought than Rush.  And it&#8217;s no secret what Rush believes: government is bad and federal regulation is a plague. </p>
<p>But I wonder if Rush realizes that the FDIC&#8211;a program of the federal government put in place by FDR&#8211;is the main thing right now that&#8217;s keeping America from an economic collapse.</p>
<p>One of my friends asked me why I wasn&#8217;t voting Republican.  &#8220;Don&#8217;t you want to keep more of your money?&#8221;</p>
<p>My answer?  If Republicans continue to rule, and they follow the Hoover, McCain, Palin script, AND THE BANKS FAIL, neither she nor I will have any money to keep.</p>
<p>What we need is a President who sounds like FDR, not a Hoover sound-alike.<br />
&#8211;Will C. Justice</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 07:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you are taking her words out of context. Seems she was talking more about the war on terror not just Iraq. Several terrorists plots have been foiled since the US took action so I don&#039;t think the US military efforts are a total loss. And yes it can be hard to make a decent speech when you have members of Code Pink rushing the stage! I don&#039;t see any right wing groups rushing stages at Democrat events! If the Democrats had voted for military and police added to hate crime protection we would not be seeing all of this nonsense. They voted against adding them because they knew that wackos like Code Pink are their best weapon in gaining votes. Same goes for them voting against adding the elderly to hate crime protection. Do you think Obama&#039;s camp would be able to poke at McCain&#039;s age if elderly had been added to the proection? Noppers. Historically Republicans have older candidates so it makes sense that the Democrats would not want to vote something that could help protect millions just because they don&#039;t want one of there common political ploys taken from them. What about antiwar protests and antiwar art in this country? I just comment here and you should probably have a read. http://www.myartspace.com/blog/2008/09/protest-art-your-thoughts.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are taking her words out of context. Seems she was talking more about the war on terror not just Iraq. Several terrorists plots have been foiled since the US took action so I don&#8217;t think the US military efforts are a total loss. And yes it can be hard to make a decent speech when you have members of Code Pink rushing the stage! I don&#8217;t see any right wing groups rushing stages at Democrat events! If the Democrats had voted for military and police added to hate crime protection we would not be seeing all of this nonsense. They voted against adding them because they knew that wackos like Code Pink are their best weapon in gaining votes. Same goes for them voting against adding the elderly to hate crime protection. Do you think Obama&#8217;s camp would be able to poke at McCain&#8217;s age if elderly had been added to the proection? Noppers. Historically Republicans have older candidates so it makes sense that the Democrats would not want to vote something that could help protect millions just because they don&#8217;t want one of there common political ploys taken from them. What about antiwar protests and antiwar art in this country? I just comment here and you should probably have a read. <a href="http://www.myartspace.com/blog/2008/09/protest-art-your-thoughts.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.myartspace.com/blog/2008/09/protest-art-your-thoughts.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: FirstCasualty</title>
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		<dc:creator>FirstCasualty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 04:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is Sarah,&quot;Iraq war is a task from God&quot; Palin a libertarian again? How does a war completely based on lies make us free? How is someone that supports the recent passage of the FISA bill even remotely considered a libertarian? She obviously forgot all that she ever learned as a so called libertarian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is Sarah,&#8221;Iraq war is a task from God&#8221; Palin a libertarian again? How does a war completely based on lies make us free? How is someone that supports the recent passage of the FISA bill even remotely considered a libertarian? She obviously forgot all that she ever learned as a so called libertarian.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Dondero</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/09/12/palin-revives-bushs-most-lethal-lie/comment-page-1/#comment-160974</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Dondero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny how some are now painting Sarah Palin as a &quot;rabid Pro-Lifer&quot; when in 2006 during the GOP primaries against Murkowski the whisper campaign spread in the Alaska GOP about her was that she was a &quot;Pro-Choicer libertarian.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny how some are now painting Sarah Palin as a &#8220;rabid Pro-Lifer&#8221; when in 2006 during the GOP primaries against Murkowski the whisper campaign spread in the Alaska GOP about her was that she was a &#8220;Pro-Choicer libertarian.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Dondero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Dondero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, the statist position is Anti-War.  Palin is in staunch opposition to Islamo-Fascism.  The Pro-Islamo-Fascist position, which is in line with the Anti-War position, is Fascist.  

Islamo-Fascists want to force our wives/girlfriends to wear ugly black burqas from head to toe, outlaw all free speech especially that which is critical of Muhammed, ban booze and gambling, stone prostitutes in town squares, kick our dogs, cut off the genitals of our gay friends, and jail our marijuana-smoking buddies for life.  

Rothbard was not a &quot;libertarian&quot; but rather a leftwing Anarchist who infiltrated our libertarian movement.  Unwelcomed as a matter of fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the statist position is Anti-War.  Palin is in staunch opposition to Islamo-Fascism.  The Pro-Islamo-Fascist position, which is in line with the Anti-War position, is Fascist.  </p>
<p>Islamo-Fascists want to force our wives/girlfriends to wear ugly black burqas from head to toe, outlaw all free speech especially that which is critical of Muhammed, ban booze and gambling, stone prostitutes in town squares, kick our dogs, cut off the genitals of our gay friends, and jail our marijuana-smoking buddies for life.  </p>
<p>Rothbard was not a &#8220;libertarian&#8221; but rather a leftwing Anarchist who infiltrated our libertarian movement.  Unwelcomed as a matter of fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since Sarah Palin has recanted of her libertarianism by embracing the statism of war (i.e. welfare to corporations), her past is, indeed, irrelevant--unless one wishes to use it as an object lesson in betrayal of principle. Dondero seems willing to sell-out any principle if only it can be traded for some wisp of fame or association with the &quot;rich and famous.&quot; When it was a gold-backed philosophy, libertarianism used to depend upon its adherence to Rothbard&#039;s nonaggression axiom and the self-ownership principle. Now that it has been traded in for the half-hearted observance of the Paulians and--much, much, worse--the avowed statism of the Creature from Alaska, it is apparently as free-floating as the dollar and, in that guise, just as worthless. For the past decade, the intellectual aspect of the LP has been suborned by the knuckle-draggers of the right, and Dondero is at the front of that mob, drooling from  his lips and clutching his pitchfork--perhaps the only two things a fake libertarian can do simultaneously. Ciao.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since Sarah Palin has recanted of her libertarianism by embracing the statism of war (i.e. welfare to corporations), her past is, indeed, irrelevant&#8211;unless one wishes to use it as an object lesson in betrayal of principle. Dondero seems willing to sell-out any principle if only it can be traded for some wisp of fame or association with the &#8220;rich and famous.&#8221; When it was a gold-backed philosophy, libertarianism used to depend upon its adherence to Rothbard&#8217;s nonaggression axiom and the self-ownership principle. Now that it has been traded in for the half-hearted observance of the Paulians and&#8211;much, much, worse&#8211;the avowed statism of the Creature from Alaska, it is apparently as free-floating as the dollar and, in that guise, just as worthless. For the past decade, the intellectual aspect of the LP has been suborned by the knuckle-draggers of the right, and Dondero is at the front of that mob, drooling from  his lips and clutching his pitchfork&#8211;perhaps the only two things a fake libertarian can do simultaneously. Ciao.</p>
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		<title>By: hardtruth</title>
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		<dc:creator>hardtruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Pretty disgusting that some so-called libertarians here, believe her past associations with the LP are either all of a sudden “irrelevant” or “not important.”&quot;


 Perhaps they recognise the vapid Jesus whore&#039;s &quot;pro life&quot; draconia as profoundly antilibertarian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Pretty disgusting that some so-called libertarians here, believe her past associations with the LP are either all of a sudden “irrelevant” or “not important.”&#8221;</p>
<p> Perhaps they recognise the vapid Jesus whore&#8217;s &#8220;pro life&#8221; draconia as profoundly antilibertarian.</p>
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