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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;Pro-Islam&#8217; Talking Doll Too Silly Not to Mention</title>
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		<title>By: ana</title>
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		<dc:creator>ana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.islamspanish.blogspot.com/</description>
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		<title>By: Tony Spumoni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Spumoni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Have these mothes no humour? Better, perhaps, that the doll call its owner a “douch-nozzle” and make Sicilian hand gestures? :-)&quot;

Oh my God, that&#039;s exactly what I was thinking!!

BTW - Where the hell is this Fox affiliate? I hope I never have to pull off the road for gas in that neighborhood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Have these mothes no humour? Better, perhaps, that the doll call its owner a “douch-nozzle” and make Sicilian hand gestures? :-)&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh my God, that&#8217;s exactly what I was thinking!!</p>
<p>BTW &#8211; Where the hell is this Fox affiliate? I hope I never have to pull off the road for gas in that neighborhood.</p>
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		<title>By: Lear K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lear K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another connection is the group or groups producing and distributing such things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another connection is the group or groups producing and distributing such things.</p>
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		<title>By: richard vajs</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard vajs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ali,
      I can appreciate Islam&#039;s understanding of Satan and man. As a Sunday school teacher, I try to get across the message that Jesus&#039;s message of the kingdom of heaven is really about the possibility of direct communion between God and man, whether internal or in some celestial place. This elevation of man&#039;s status, if man so chooses, is very clear in John&#039;s Gospel. As such, it seems that Satan would have this jealousy and would strive to have man reject God&#039;s offer. 
      Incidentally, my experience with most Christians is that they are uncomfortable with this notion of direct communion, preferring a distant God, who can be generally  avoided so as not to invoke his wrath. Sort of like clerks, heads bowed down and furiously scribbling when the big boss walks through the office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ali,<br />
      I can appreciate Islam&#8217;s understanding of Satan and man. As a Sunday school teacher, I try to get across the message that Jesus&#8217;s message of the kingdom of heaven is really about the possibility of direct communion between God and man, whether internal or in some celestial place. This elevation of man&#8217;s status, if man so chooses, is very clear in John&#8217;s Gospel. As such, it seems that Satan would have this jealousy and would strive to have man reject God&#8217;s offer.<br />
      Incidentally, my experience with most Christians is that they are uncomfortable with this notion of direct communion, preferring a distant God, who can be generally  avoided so as not to invoke his wrath. Sort of like clerks, heads bowed down and furiously scribbling when the big boss walks through the office.</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Costa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eugene Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MacCain&#039;s and Palin&#039;s &quot;God&quot; as the Fonz--dudes, HE&#039;S got a REP to keep up, HE&#039;S got FACE to save.

Anyway, in regard to those two, to vote for them is +1, to vote for Barr or Nader or McKinney, et. al. or write in Paul or not to vote at all is 0, and to vote for Obama is -1.  That&#039;s a range of two.

No guarantees what -1 will bring, after Paul Craig Roberts, but if you can possibly bear Duopolymint, you can double your fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MacCain&#8217;s and Palin&#8217;s &#8220;God&#8221; as the Fonz&#8211;dudes, HE&#8217;S got a REP to keep up, HE&#8217;S got FACE to save.</p>
<p>Anyway, in regard to those two, to vote for them is +1, to vote for Barr or Nader or McKinney, et. al. or write in Paul or not to vote at all is 0, and to vote for Obama is -1.  That&#8217;s a range of two.</p>
<p>No guarantees what -1 will bring, after Paul Craig Roberts, but if you can possibly bear Duopolymint, you can double your fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Lear K</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/10/09/pro-islam-talking-doll-too-silly-not-to-mention/comment-page-1/#comment-162431</link>
		<dc:creator>Lear K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In May 1948, more than 200 Palestinians were killed by the advancing Jewish militia in the coastal village of Tantura, south of Haifa. According to the recorded testimony of 40 witnesses, both Arab and Jewish, half the civilians were shot in a &quot;rampage&quot;. The rest were marched to the beach, where the men were separated from the women and children. They were taken to a wall near the mosque where they were shot in the back of the head.&quot;

 http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=338</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In May 1948, more than 200 Palestinians were killed by the advancing Jewish militia in the coastal village of Tantura, south of Haifa. According to the recorded testimony of 40 witnesses, both Arab and Jewish, half the civilians were shot in a &#8220;rampage&#8221;. The rest were marched to the beach, where the men were separated from the women and children. They were taken to a wall near the mosque where they were shot in the back of the head.&#8221;</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=338" rel="nofollow">http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=338</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lear K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lear K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, you have as much contemept for the Chriatians and thier religion as for Muslims and their religion,no matter how pertend otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, you have as much contemept for the Chriatians and thier religion as for Muslims and their religion,no matter how pertend otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Lear K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lear K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jewish &#039;modesty patrols&#039; sow fear in Israel

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081004/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_enforcing_modesty

Israeli Bestseller Breaks National Taboo

http://www.antiwar.com/orig/cook.php?articleid=13569

When is a Holocaust Not a Holocaust? 

http://www.counterpunch.org/blum10032008.html

Israel&#039;s Breeding Ground for Terrorism

http://www.antiwar.com/orig/cook.php?articleid=13530</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jewish &#8216;modesty patrols&#8217; sow fear in Israel</p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081004/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_enforcing_modesty" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081004/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_israel_enforcing_modesty</a></p>
<p>Israeli Bestseller Breaks National Taboo</p>
<p><a href="http://www.antiwar.com/orig/cook.php?articleid=13569" rel="nofollow">http://www.antiwar.com/orig/cook.php?articleid=13569</a></p>
<p>When is a Holocaust Not a Holocaust? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.counterpunch.org/blum10032008.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.counterpunch.org/blum10032008.html</a></p>
<p>Israel&#8217;s Breeding Ground for Terrorism</p>
<p><a href="http://www.antiwar.com/orig/cook.php?articleid=13530" rel="nofollow">http://www.antiwar.com/orig/cook.php?articleid=13530</a></p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Costa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eugene Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 14:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>corr: &quot;This almost seems rooted&quot;. Pardon this and any other typos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>corr: &#8220;This almost seems rooted&#8221;. Pardon this and any other typos.</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Costa</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/10/09/pro-islam-talking-doll-too-silly-not-to-mention/comment-page-1/#comment-162425</link>
		<dc:creator>Eugene Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 14:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are different orders of irrationality. The Reverend Arnold Conrad, at McCain&#039;s rally in Davenport:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;I would also pray, Lord, that your reputation is involved in all that happens between now and November, because there are millions of people around this world praying to their god — whether it&#039;s Hindu, Buddha, Allah — that his opponent wins, for a variety of reasons...And Lord, I pray that you would guard your own reputation, because they&#039;re going to think that their god is bigger than you, if that happens. So I pray that you will step forward and honor your own name with all that happens between now and Election Day....&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

In the all too long and turgid history of Western religions--indeed, in any history East or West--I cannot remember running into anything like this, to wit, a prayer from an adherent requesting a supposedly omnipotent divinty not to sell itself short, and tarnish its &quot;reputation&quot;.

That the reputation is to be tarnished by losing an election is all the more striking.

Colloquially, this may be an expansion of a theology in which phrases like &quot;God failed us&quot; are possible, but in this case said by a putative adherent.

This is almost seems rooted in the Tribal and Henotheist concept of &quot;God&quot; in the early parts of the Old Testament, and akin to the other ancient religions which Nietzsche talks of, according to which success in war or the world was the sign of divine power.

It is exactly the subtilty of the later Old Testament, however, to have to a large extent transcended this simplicity, by having the tribe &quot;fail God&quot;, rather than the reverse.

In fact, some theologians have argued that it is exactly the tribe&#039;s failure that allows the possibility of an abstract monotheism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are different orders of irrationality. The Reverend Arnold Conrad, at McCain&#8217;s rally in Davenport:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;I would also pray, Lord, that your reputation is involved in all that happens between now and November, because there are millions of people around this world praying to their god — whether it&#8217;s Hindu, Buddha, Allah — that his opponent wins, for a variety of reasons&#8230;And Lord, I pray that you would guard your own reputation, because they&#8217;re going to think that their god is bigger than you, if that happens. So I pray that you will step forward and honor your own name with all that happens between now and Election Day&#8230;.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>In the all too long and turgid history of Western religions&#8211;indeed, in any history East or West&#8211;I cannot remember running into anything like this, to wit, a prayer from an adherent requesting a supposedly omnipotent divinty not to sell itself short, and tarnish its &#8220;reputation&#8221;.</p>
<p>That the reputation is to be tarnished by losing an election is all the more striking.</p>
<p>Colloquially, this may be an expansion of a theology in which phrases like &#8220;God failed us&#8221; are possible, but in this case said by a putative adherent.</p>
<p>This is almost seems rooted in the Tribal and Henotheist concept of &#8220;God&#8221; in the early parts of the Old Testament, and akin to the other ancient religions which Nietzsche talks of, according to which success in war or the world was the sign of divine power.</p>
<p>It is exactly the subtilty of the later Old Testament, however, to have to a large extent transcended this simplicity, by having the tribe &#8220;fail God&#8221;, rather than the reverse.</p>
<p>In fact, some theologians have argued that it is exactly the tribe&#8217;s failure that allows the possibility of an abstract monotheism.</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Costa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eugene Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 09:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Almost completely by the way, the wikipedia article on &quot;hex&quot; makes a common mistake, seeming to identify &quot;Pennsylvania Dutch&quot; with Dutch.  &quot;Dutch&quot; in America meant both Dutch and German (Deutsch) at the time and the article has the groups confused, surely because of not understanding the usage of the name. Nor were the Dutch as Netherlanders mainly in Pennsylvania.

Not that there is a huge distinction between Low Deutsch and Dutch. Low Deutsch is sea level German, which is also Dutch, who, with their dikes, go the Germans one better in the matter of &quot;low&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Almost completely by the way, the wikipedia article on &#8220;hex&#8221; makes a common mistake, seeming to identify &#8220;Pennsylvania Dutch&#8221; with Dutch.  &#8220;Dutch&#8221; in America meant both Dutch and German (Deutsch) at the time and the article has the groups confused, surely because of not understanding the usage of the name. Nor were the Dutch as Netherlanders mainly in Pennsylvania.</p>
<p>Not that there is a huge distinction between Low Deutsch and Dutch. Low Deutsch is sea level German, which is also Dutch, who, with their dikes, go the Germans one better in the matter of &#8220;low&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene Costa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eugene Costa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 08:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True enough, one has to be careful talking about Cotton Mather in Portuguese. Voicing the surname clumsily is a no go and may summon up who knows what hobgoblins.

And you do now add &quot;weird&quot;, it is true.

Still, Calvin had his weirdness among the Dutch as well, though they were, it is admitted, much more practiced and pragmatic in their hypocrisy, including mastering the fine art of the &quot;hex&quot;, as often seen in the exterior of their houses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True enough, one has to be careful talking about Cotton Mather in Portuguese. Voicing the surname clumsily is a no go and may summon up who knows what hobgoblins.</p>
<p>And you do now add &#8220;weird&#8221;, it is true.</p>
<p>Still, Calvin had his weirdness among the Dutch as well, though they were, it is admitted, much more practiced and pragmatic in their hypocrisy, including mastering the fine art of the &#8220;hex&#8221;, as often seen in the exterior of their houses.</p>
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