Wars by professed Christians against Arab lands are current. Wars by Islam against the west are ancient. It turns out that whatever group–ethnic, religious, racial, what have you–gets big and bad enough, goes to war against others for empire. America’s doing that right now. Had I lived in Martel’s day, I might have taken the Saracens to task for warmongering. Living now, however, I take Israel and America to the woodshed for warmongering and mass killing. And at least the ancient Muslims didn’t delude themselves as to what they were doing. Explain, Tim, why there was no terrorism against America until it began meddling in the Mideast.

Yes, I did see the film and yes, its is perfectly fine to look into the motives of the Jihadists and to try to understand why they hate us. Yes, we have made some grave mistakes in our relations with the Muslim world and no, we are far from perfect. But my point here is that if it were not for the violence in their religion, stirred up by their religious leaders, they would not resort to wanton violence. They would try other means to ameliorate their percieved plight. But they would do so peacefully. Ghandi did it. Martin Luther King did it, and the Dalai Lama is doing it today. Why is is that a Hindu, a Christian and a Buddist, together with their followers, could suffer tremendous injustice and yet not resort to violence? My contention is because if you objectively look at the Hindu, Buddist, and Christian religions, they do not encourage violence. Can the same honestly be said for Islam? Particularly radical Islam?

And by the way Mr. Nelson, who was attacking the Muslims in the mid seventh to eight centuries? Who was occupying their lands? What superpower was meddling in their affairs at that time? And yet they forcefully and ruthlessly went out and tried to conquer all of the Middle East. And they succeeded. They got all the way into Southern France before their deadly advance was halted by Charles Martel. So tell me, if it is all about the big bad United States, and evil Israel, how come they went on a killing spree and tried to spread their faith by violence long before there ever was a united States, before the re-establishment of the modern state of Israel, before the Crusades, and long before Bush, Cheney or the Neo Cons were ever born.

You are either very naive, or otherwise share the views of the makers of this ‘film’?

There is clear agenda here, not matter what the makers of such propaganda might claim, and that is to inflame the passion of the viewers, intensify their fears and hate of all Muslims and Islam. Which in turn would influence US policy and actions towards Muslims countries and people, and increase the support for the Israeli actions. The makers of this DVD knew the psychology and mind set of the American public at large, and how can it be easily manipulated. You do not have to tell that they have to fear all Muslims, or that Islam is a threat, all you need few clips from here and there.

I suggest that people study how effectively the Nazis used propaganda to inflame the German people passion against the Jews, in order to see the similarities here!

Why then distribute 28 million copies!?Any one can cliam that he is not targeting awhole group or religion ,but goal is to inflame the passion and fears the viewers of such propagana against the whole group or religion that they supposdly were not talking about.May you should study the Nazi prpoganda agains the Jews to see similarties here.

As one of the reviewers Jim Lobe references argues, “Obsession” says it’s just about the tiny minority of terrorists, not all of Islam, but its tone and implications run otherwise.

As far as their dedication to killing us, let them be so dedicated. We keep an eye on them, keep them there in the Mideast to stew in their own juices, and otherwise don’t give a damn. There’s considerable evidence too that if we simply left them alone their fervor and fury would fade. Some Muslims have been breathing threats against the West for at least 110 years (see William Graham Sumner) but didn’t bother to act on them until we stuck our oar in their water. “Obsession” is merely puerile propaganda.

Think!

I think we can all agree on a few basic things, regardless of our political affiliation. First is that there is a real threat out there from EXTREMIST Muslims (we all know its not the rank and file believers in Islam, its the very small minority of crazies). Secondly is that they are in fact justifying their actions using their faith. Third is, unless we pull back completely from the world, they are going to remain dedicated to killing us.

Granted, I’ve actually worked with this film, so my bias is there – but the makers of Obsession went out of their way to make it clear they were not talking about random Muslims – but that in fact they were talking about the radical extremists that want to do us harm.

It wasn’t a documentary on the religion if Islam – otherwise I’d say you guys would have a point in saying it was overboard. This was a specific film about a specific threat from a specific group of religious extremists.

I believe it is a valuable commentary, even if you are politically left, or against the government’s actions since 9/11. Its still important to realize what these people are all about.

What a load of fresh, green, pig manure. An intelligent overview of the jihadists would certainly cover their terrorism against Israel and the West–terror being, of course, the weapon of the weak–while also looking into the why and wherefore they do what they do. There’s no greater ignorance than that of the Americans bleating like sheep “why do they hate us?,” or the belief that one day some Arabs got bored sitting around a campfire somewhere and decided that just for the love of evil they’d kill themselves crashing planes into buildings.

But in Timworld, to let even a sliver of objectivity into any discussion of Israel’s enemies is to somehow drive the Jews back to the ovens, obliterate and salt Israel, and celebrate ultimate evil. It’s all right, Tim, to assume that Israel and America are not necessarily the fount of all goodness and light, and that the Muslim Mideast is not solely darkness and horror.