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	<title>Comments on: The Paradox of Law: The Past as Prologue</title>
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		<title>By: Prolonged Detention: Obama to Continue Bush Policies &#124; America at War</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2009/04/24/the-paradox-of-law-the-past-as-prologue/comment-page-1/#comment-169877</link>
		<dc:creator>Prolonged Detention: Obama to Continue Bush Policies &#124; America at War</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 20:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] first, watch Rachel Madow explain in the clip below, how President Obama, principled opponent of prosecuting or even investigating past crimes, plans to lock people up for future crimes. Forever. Like the &#8220;Pre-Crime&#8221; lock-ups [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] first, watch Rachel Madow explain in the clip below, how President Obama, principled opponent of prosecuting or even investigating past crimes, plans to lock people up for future crimes. Forever. Like the &#8220;Pre-Crime&#8221; lock-ups [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Antiwar.com Blog &#183; Face It, Progs: Obama&#8217;s a Dud</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2009/04/24/the-paradox-of-law-the-past-as-prologue/comment-page-1/#comment-169778</link>
		<dc:creator>Antiwar.com Blog &#183; Face It, Progs: Obama&#8217;s a Dud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 18:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] appears to be a keeper. In the clip below, she explains how President Obama, principled opponent of prosecuting or even investigating past crimes, plans to lock people up for future crimes. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] appears to be a keeper. In the clip below, she explains how President Obama, principled opponent of prosecuting or even investigating past crimes, plans to lock people up for future crimes. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lester Ness</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2009/04/24/the-paradox-of-law-the-past-as-prologue/comment-page-1/#comment-169335</link>
		<dc:creator>Lester Ness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 05:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which god do they trust in?  Their god is their belly, I suspect.

Lester Ness
Kunming
China</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which god do they trust in?  Their god is their belly, I suspect.</p>
<p>Lester Ness<br />
Kunming<br />
China</p>
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		<title>By: Lester Ness</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2009/04/24/the-paradox-of-law-the-past-as-prologue/comment-page-1/#comment-169334</link>
		<dc:creator>Lester Ness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 05:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of Americans take for granted that it won&#039;t happen to THEM -- just other people.

Lester Ness
Kunming
China</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of Americans take for granted that it won&#8217;t happen to THEM &#8212; just other people.</p>
<p>Lester Ness<br />
Kunming<br />
China</p>
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		<title>By: Terry in Sullivan</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2009/04/24/the-paradox-of-law-the-past-as-prologue/comment-page-1/#comment-169262</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry in Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 23:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laws, regardless of eloquence has never protected anyone.  They are a part of the clean up-after the fact.  They are a part of the revenge cycle of which prosecutors and police do their work.  The laws against murder never stopped the murderer.
And it is revenge and I find it telling that they say in God we trust.  If they really believe in God, then what they&#039;re doing is double-jeopardy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laws, regardless of eloquence has never protected anyone.  They are a part of the clean up-after the fact.  They are a part of the revenge cycle of which prosecutors and police do their work.  The laws against murder never stopped the murderer.<br />
And it is revenge and I find it telling that they say in God we trust.  If they really believe in God, then what they&#8217;re doing is double-jeopardy.</p>
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		<title>By: Lear K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lear K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 16:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I happened to turn to the 700 club ,and there was he ,Mr morality himself Pat Robertson saying that Obama should never have released those torture memos becuse there any reason to do so either legal,moral,or otherwise and that actions would show that democrates and Obama were soft on deffense ,and the security of the country!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I happened to turn to the 700 club ,and there was he ,Mr morality himself Pat Robertson saying that Obama should never have released those torture memos becuse there any reason to do so either legal,moral,or otherwise and that actions would show that democrates and Obama were soft on deffense ,and the security of the country!</p>
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		<title>By: richard vajs</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard vajs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 11:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...the lazy, the calculating, and the implicated. To which, I would add the selfish and the narcissitic. Dick Cheney knows the moral weak spot of this country - it is the complete self-absorbtion of many Americans. A self-absorbtion that asks only that they can live a nice surburban life style with new cars, kids on sports teams, and a growing 401K. If half of the rest of the world needs to be tortured, invaded, or even nuked to achieve this, &quot;well just do it, as long as we are safe&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;the lazy, the calculating, and the implicated. To which, I would add the selfish and the narcissitic. Dick Cheney knows the moral weak spot of this country &#8211; it is the complete self-absorbtion of many Americans. A self-absorbtion that asks only that they can live a nice surburban life style with new cars, kids on sports teams, and a growing 401K. If half of the rest of the world needs to be tortured, invaded, or even nuked to achieve this, &#8220;well just do it, as long as we are safe&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 05:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that the conservatives--both Republicans and Blue Dog Democrats such as Obama--consider torture, forced disappearance and felony murder mere breaches of etiquette, matters of taste or &quot;policy differences,&quot; not the war crimes, serious human rights violations and felonies they unequivocally are in US and international law.

The very people who decry &quot;moral relativism&quot; are telling us that there is no fixed standard of right and wrong. There&#039;s something strange and hypocritical in this special pleading. After all, we have frequently used such offenses as justification for war when people we no longer liked, such as Saddam Hussain and Manuel Ortega, had a history of ordering them under our sponsorship and tutelage.

Obama and Holder have gone so far as to characterize torturers and murderers as dedicated public servants acting in good faith under the law. What? Torturing in good faith? The 43 deaths in US custody ruled homicide by military pathologists are evidence of good faith to this administration, but not to  right-thinking people.

The world is watching, and no one more than the world&#039;s billion-plus Muslims. If we don&#039;t take action, what does this say to them about our attitude towards the victims, our estimation of their humanity and the value of their lives and rights? A salafist recruiter couldn&#039;t hope for more from Obama.

And what of our allies, who now view us as a barbaric bully to be kept at a distance? How can we regain their trust if not through re-establishment of the rule of law?

If impunity persists, what of future war criminals? What is to deter them? Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and Pinochet could not have done much evil acting alone. It took willing accomplices, and if systems are not in place to deter such accomplices, protection from evil designs conceived in high places is illusory.

And how can we protest credibly if American military personnel, diplomats or civilians are tortured or even murdered abroad?

There is a lot at stake here, far too much to be swept under the rug by the craven, the lazy, the calculating and the implicated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that the conservatives&#8211;both Republicans and Blue Dog Democrats such as Obama&#8211;consider torture, forced disappearance and felony murder mere breaches of etiquette, matters of taste or &#8220;policy differences,&#8221; not the war crimes, serious human rights violations and felonies they unequivocally are in US and international law.</p>
<p>The very people who decry &#8220;moral relativism&#8221; are telling us that there is no fixed standard of right and wrong. There&#8217;s something strange and hypocritical in this special pleading. After all, we have frequently used such offenses as justification for war when people we no longer liked, such as Saddam Hussain and Manuel Ortega, had a history of ordering them under our sponsorship and tutelage.</p>
<p>Obama and Holder have gone so far as to characterize torturers and murderers as dedicated public servants acting in good faith under the law. What? Torturing in good faith? The 43 deaths in US custody ruled homicide by military pathologists are evidence of good faith to this administration, but not to  right-thinking people.</p>
<p>The world is watching, and no one more than the world&#8217;s billion-plus Muslims. If we don&#8217;t take action, what does this say to them about our attitude towards the victims, our estimation of their humanity and the value of their lives and rights? A salafist recruiter couldn&#8217;t hope for more from Obama.</p>
<p>And what of our allies, who now view us as a barbaric bully to be kept at a distance? How can we regain their trust if not through re-establishment of the rule of law?</p>
<p>If impunity persists, what of future war criminals? What is to deter them? Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and Pinochet could not have done much evil acting alone. It took willing accomplices, and if systems are not in place to deter such accomplices, protection from evil designs conceived in high places is illusory.</p>
<p>And how can we protest credibly if American military personnel, diplomats or civilians are tortured or even murdered abroad?</p>
<p>There is a lot at stake here, far too much to be swept under the rug by the craven, the lazy, the calculating and the implicated.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 04:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah sure, don&#039;t look backwards. Don&#039;t punish that arsonist. It won&#039;t bring back that building he burnt down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah sure, don&#8217;t look backwards. Don&#8217;t punish that arsonist. It won&#8217;t bring back that building he burnt down.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 04:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don&#039;t have a legitimate opposition party. They are both bought and paid for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t have a legitimate opposition party. They are both bought and paid for.</p>
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		<title>By: Ira Epstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ira Epstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 03:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The criminal organization that goes by the name of the government of the United States is living on borrowed time.  As Dr. Paul likes to say the downfall of the United States government will not be defeat on the battlefield, but rather internal economic rot.  The economic basis of the American empire, the status of the dollar as the reserve currency of the world, is being destroyed by the Fed, and a Consolidated Government that exercises no restraint and recognizes no limits to its power.  I do not think it is a question of if the American empire will fall, but only a question of when. 
When the fall does come, I think ideas will be just as important if not more important than guns.  All to often when criminal governments are toppled they are replaced by equally criminal if not more criminal governments.  If American civilization is to be rebuilt, it will be done so on the basis of peace and the economic ideas of Ludwig Von Mises. The important question is whether these ideas will prevail after the collapse, or will another version of the state is god idea prevail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The criminal organization that goes by the name of the government of the United States is living on borrowed time.  As Dr. Paul likes to say the downfall of the United States government will not be defeat on the battlefield, but rather internal economic rot.  The economic basis of the American empire, the status of the dollar as the reserve currency of the world, is being destroyed by the Fed, and a Consolidated Government that exercises no restraint and recognizes no limits to its power.  I do not think it is a question of if the American empire will fall, but only a question of when.<br />
When the fall does come, I think ideas will be just as important if not more important than guns.  All to often when criminal governments are toppled they are replaced by equally criminal if not more criminal governments.  If American civilization is to be rebuilt, it will be done so on the basis of peace and the economic ideas of Ludwig Von Mises. The important question is whether these ideas will prevail after the collapse, or will another version of the state is god idea prevail.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 00:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mario Rizzo, very well said eloquent and to the point.

We have forsaken a Republic of laws in exchange for Fascist Tyronny. Democracy without law is simply mob rule, where the strongest kill and eat the weak. It kind of reminds me of Detroit (ha ha). 

Has anyone checked out the new push for CIFTA?  It&#039;s nothing new but with Obama in charge and with the Dem&#039;s in, it just might fly. They should call it GRUNT, Grabbing Rifles United Nations Treaty. Now I&#039;ll be a criminal for reloading my shells or mounting a new scope, or even breaking down my rifle to clean it. 

I know it seems off subject but bear with me. They want our guns for a few reasons. First, so we can&#039;t protect ourselves and we run crying to them. Second, so we can&#039;t protect ourselves from them. Third, so they can remain above the law and live without fear of rebelion.

Check out these two clips from Lew Rockwell. 

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/026475.html
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/026476.html

The first is about GRUNT, I mean CIFTA. The second is titled &quot;Milwaukee&#039;s Criminal Police Chief and Civilian Disarmament&quot;. 

Try and protect yourself and your family and see what these Fascist will try and pull on you.

Peace!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mario Rizzo, very well said eloquent and to the point.</p>
<p>We have forsaken a Republic of laws in exchange for Fascist Tyronny. Democracy without law is simply mob rule, where the strongest kill and eat the weak. It kind of reminds me of Detroit (ha ha). </p>
<p>Has anyone checked out the new push for CIFTA?  It&#8217;s nothing new but with Obama in charge and with the Dem&#8217;s in, it just might fly. They should call it GRUNT, Grabbing Rifles United Nations Treaty. Now I&#8217;ll be a criminal for reloading my shells or mounting a new scope, or even breaking down my rifle to clean it. </p>
<p>I know it seems off subject but bear with me. They want our guns for a few reasons. First, so we can&#8217;t protect ourselves and we run crying to them. Second, so we can&#8217;t protect ourselves from them. Third, so they can remain above the law and live without fear of rebelion.</p>
<p>Check out these two clips from Lew Rockwell. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/026475.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/026475.html</a><br />
<a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/026476.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/026476.html</a></p>
<p>The first is about GRUNT, I mean CIFTA. The second is titled &#8220;Milwaukee&#8217;s Criminal Police Chief and Civilian Disarmament&#8221;. </p>
<p>Try and protect yourself and your family and see what these Fascist will try and pull on you.</p>
<p>Peace!</p>
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