Comments on: Tom Ricks to Antiwar.com: Get Off of My Cloud! http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2009/05/08/tom-ricks-to-antiwarcom-get-off-of-my-cloud/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:20:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: liberranter http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2009/05/08/tom-ricks-to-antiwarcom-get-off-of-my-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-169429 liberranter Mon, 11 May 2009 16:54:24 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=5614#comment-169429 Well said, both Ira and Orville! I'll go one step further and add the following coda, addressed to my fellow Amerikans: The Great Petraeus, His Council of Warrior-Wizards, and their selfless foot soldiers by the hundreds of thousands have undergone intense and grueling seasoning on the glorious battlefields of Iraqhanistan and are now fully ready to deliver this precious "redemption" to the troubled masses here at home who so desperately crave and need their leadership in the midst of socioeconomic collapse. So when these selfless soldiers take control of our cities and towns and enter our homes to raid and ransack, do not be so selfish and shortsighted as to think of it as punitive or oppressive. Oh no, these blessed souls are securing your FREEDOM, and if that means having to arrest you and detain you for the remainder of your natural days in a Wackenhut[TM] gulag, why, that's simply the price freedom demands. So, my fellow Amerikans, be sure to welcome these glorious, omniscient, omnipotent beings with open arms - or else. Well said, both Ira and Orville! I’ll go one step further and add the following coda, addressed to my fellow Amerikans:

The Great Petraeus, His Council of Warrior-Wizards, and their selfless foot soldiers by the hundreds of thousands have undergone intense and grueling seasoning on the glorious battlefields of Iraqhanistan and are now fully ready to deliver this precious “redemption” to the troubled masses here at home who so desperately crave and need their leadership in the midst of socioeconomic collapse.

So when these selfless soldiers take control of our cities and towns and enter our homes to raid and ransack, do not be so selfish and shortsighted as to think of it as punitive or oppressive. Oh no, these blessed souls are securing your FREEDOM, and if that means having to arrest you and detain you for the remainder of your natural days in a Wackenhut[TM] gulag, why, that’s simply the price freedom demands.

So, my fellow Amerikans, be sure to welcome these glorious, omniscient, omnipotent beings with open arms – or else.

]]> By: richard vajs http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2009/05/08/tom-ricks-to-antiwarcom-get-off-of-my-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-169423 richard vajs Mon, 11 May 2009 11:44:48 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=5614#comment-169423 Whenever I hear someone refer to our troops as "heroes", I know one thing for sure - the guy calling them "heroes" was never in the military. I was and what I saw was a broad cross section of society with a strong tilt to the agressive and the uncultured. For every "hero", that I saw, I also saw several psychopaths, barrack thieves, drunks and whoremongers. Too bad, so many of our leaders missed out on the full experience of military life - the barroom brawls, getting the clapp, the puke, the blood ... People who celebrate their military career have led a pretty unproductive life, in my opinion. Whenever I hear someone refer to our troops as “heroes”, I know one thing for sure – the guy calling them “heroes” was never in the military. I was and what I saw was a broad cross section of society with a strong tilt to the agressive and the uncultured. For every “hero”, that I saw, I also saw several psychopaths, barrack thieves, drunks and whoremongers. Too bad, so many of our leaders missed out on the full experience of military life – the barroom brawls, getting the clapp, the puke, the blood … People who celebrate their military career have led a pretty unproductive life, in my opinion.

]]> By: Orville H. Larson http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2009/05/08/tom-ricks-to-antiwarcom-get-off-of-my-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-169416 Orville H. Larson Mon, 11 May 2009 05:00:12 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=5614#comment-169416 So many of today's neocon chickenhawks--Bill Kristol, John Bolton, William ("The Gambler") Bennett, "Five Deferments Dick" Cheney, ad infinitum--got their start as Vietnam chickenhawks. They assiduously pursued their student deferments, their draft-dodging scams, what have you, in order to avoid the unpleasantness of a Vietnamese rice paddy. Meanwhile, they sat in their dorm rooms, writing letters to LBJ and Nixon praising the war, while hoping Daddy sends 'em a check from home. Assholes. So many of today’s neocon chickenhawks–Bill Kristol, John Bolton, William (“The Gambler”) Bennett, “Five Deferments Dick” Cheney, ad infinitum–got their start as Vietnam chickenhawks. They assiduously pursued their student deferments, their draft-dodging scams, what have you, in order to avoid the unpleasantness of a Vietnamese rice paddy. Meanwhile, they sat in their dorm rooms, writing letters to LBJ and Nixon praising the war, while hoping Daddy sends ‘em a check from home.

Assholes.

]]> By: Orville H. Larson http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2009/05/08/tom-ricks-to-antiwarcom-get-off-of-my-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-169414 Orville H. Larson Mon, 11 May 2009 03:56:01 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=5614#comment-169414 It's an honor to be invaded and occupied by the United States. When we invade a country, it's for that country's own good, whether they like it or not. Shit, why can't these ingrates understand that? Yes, a hell of a lot of Iraqis got killed, injured, and displaced. Doesn't matter. As Ray McGovern put it, we're there for "OIL"--Oil, Israel, and Logistics. It’s an honor to be invaded and occupied by the United States. When we invade a country, it’s for that country’s own good, whether they like it or not. Shit, why can’t these ingrates understand that?

Yes, a hell of a lot of Iraqis got killed, injured, and displaced. Doesn’t matter. As Ray McGovern put it, we’re there for “OIL”–Oil, Israel, and Logistics.

]]> By: Lester Ness http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2009/05/08/tom-ricks-to-antiwarcom-get-off-of-my-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-169410 Lester Ness Mon, 11 May 2009 00:41:07 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=5614#comment-169410 Quite true. I spent the years 1971-76 in the US Navy, including a war cruise in 1972. I'm not necessarily qualified to command an army, but I know things that Ricks et al. will never know. The most educational part was observing the Philippines, esp. the Marcos Coup and following martial law period. Also, military debauchery. I keep wondering about the sex&booze aspect of the Iraq Occupation. I really doubt the US Army is composed of eunuchs, these days! Lester Ness Kunming China Quite true. I spent the years 1971-76 in the US Navy, including a war cruise in 1972. I’m not necessarily qualified to command an army, but I know things that Ricks et al. will never know. The most educational part was observing the Philippines, esp. the Marcos Coup and following martial law period. Also, military debauchery. I keep wondering about the sex&booze aspect of the Iraq Occupation. I really doubt the US Army is composed of eunuchs, these days!

Lester Ness
Kunming
China

]]> By: Joe O. http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2009/05/08/tom-ricks-to-antiwarcom-get-off-of-my-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-169406 Joe O. Sun, 10 May 2009 13:40:32 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=5614#comment-169406 I love this, "about an area about which they know absolutely freaking nothing,” You know, there must be millions of opinions out there regarding Afghanistan, Iraq and other conflicts. I can appreciate that as everyone has a right to voice their opinions. What gets me about Tom Ricks is that he makes himself out to be some "expert" on military and warfare when in reality he has no clue about it either. Has he ever served a day in the military which might add a bit of credibility to his claim of being an "expert"? No! During Vietnam old Tommy boy was doing everything he could to make sure he didn't go to Vietnam just like the rest of his cowardly, right wing buddies (Ricks graduated from Yale in 77). I'm glad I don't have the problem. I can at least back up what I say with my 8 years of military service experience. Ricks' being "embedded" (and protected by a large number of troops I might add) does not count as military service. I love this, “about an area about which they know absolutely freaking nothing,”

You know, there must be millions of opinions out there regarding Afghanistan, Iraq and other conflicts. I can appreciate that as everyone has a right to voice their opinions. What gets me about Tom Ricks is that he makes himself out to be some “expert” on military and warfare when in reality he has no clue about it either. Has he ever served a day in the military which might add a bit of credibility to his claim of being an “expert”? No! During Vietnam old Tommy boy was doing everything he could to make sure he didn’t go to Vietnam just like the rest of his cowardly, right wing buddies (Ricks graduated from Yale in 77). I’m glad I don’t have the problem. I can at least back up what I say with my 8 years of military service experience. Ricks’ being “embedded” (and protected by a large number of troops I might add) does not count as military service.

]]> By: entactogen http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2009/05/08/tom-ricks-to-antiwarcom-get-off-of-my-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-169405 entactogen Sun, 10 May 2009 09:18:06 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=5614#comment-169405 Ah, stop picking on Tom! He did not mean it - it was the flu! "Lesson learned by tom ricks on Sun, 05/10/2009 - 12:02am I was in a bad mood when I wrote this, and since have learned that I was coming down with the flu. Lesson learned: Don't blog when you feel lousy. Thanks to all, Tom" Ah, stop picking on Tom! He did not mean it – it was the flu!

“Lesson learned
by tom ricks on Sun, 05/10/2009 – 12:02am

I was in a bad mood when I wrote this, and since have learned that I was coming down with the flu.

Lesson learned: Don’t blog when you feel lousy.

Thanks to all,
Tom”

]]> By: Lester Ness http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2009/05/08/tom-ricks-to-antiwarcom-get-off-of-my-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-169397 Lester Ness Sun, 10 May 2009 01:01:43 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=5614#comment-169397 Someone leave the flaming bag of dogshit at his door. Lester Ness Kunming China Someone leave the flaming bag of dogshit at his door.

Lester Ness
Kunming
China

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]]> By: Skulz Fontaine http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2009/05/08/tom-ricks-to-antiwarcom-get-off-of-my-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-169386 Skulz Fontaine Sat, 09 May 2009 13:42:54 +0000 http://www.antiwar.com/blog/?p=5614#comment-169386 Ah, Ricks pitches a hissy. How demonstrably sad. Swollen egos and disconnect. Such is the sorry state of mainstream journalism in propagandized America. Ah, Ricks pitches a hissy. How demonstrably sad. Swollen egos and disconnect. Such is the sorry state of mainstream journalism in propagandized America.

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