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By: lacoste

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By: Unblogged Bits for Wednesday, 24 June 2009 | ***Dave Does the Blog

Unblogged Bits for Wednesday, 24 June 2009 | ***Dave Does the Blog — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:59:54 +0000

[...] Antiwar.com Blog · A Thought Experiment – This really is a key argument, and an excellent analogy (read the whole article). We lost our rhetorical rights to argue about regime change in Iran fifty years ago, and have done nothing since then to rebuild them. And most Iranians are painfully aware of that. The decrying of Obama as “timid” are coming from folks in this country who have their own poltical axes to grind, not from folks in Iran. [...]

By: Vassili

Vassili — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:45:57 +0000

All this is just an illustration to one belief I’ve gradually obtained through life in USSR, USA and modern Russia – “Democracy does not (can not) exist”. “Democracy” is from the same set of entities as “Communizm”, “Heaven on Earth”, “Kingdom of God”, “Third Reich’ modern state of Israel :-) Nice constructs – in theory – yet trying to implement them results in millions of people slaughtered.

I can state it differently – “Democracy and freedom can not be established by formal, rational, ‘algorithmic’ means, and that includes legislation, occupation etc.’ It can happen by spontanious process of social self-organization, yet it’s fragile and does not live long on historical scale. 200 years seems the maximum possible :-)

Either certain group of people is blessed with that – or not.

So – the way people in Iran voted – does not matter. The way their voices were counted – does not matter. Only one thing matters – forces of Evil, of Entropis, of Satan himself if you wish, are able to destabilize life in Iran – and I would gladly count as such both Shah, and Ajatollas, and US backed factions. All of them are various kind of parasites on the body of Iranian nation. Well… that body must me not that healthy if it’s prone to these illnesses.

By: MoT

MoT — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:34:51 +0000

Wasn’t it Stalin who said that “The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.” Hmmm?

By: MoT

MoT — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:21:29 +0000

I don’t sit and read every day so there is a certain amount of “lag”… gets confusing at times.

By: Hvad kan vi gøre for Iran? Om troskabseder og promovering | Modpress

Hvad kan vi gøre for Iran? Om troskabseder og promovering | Modpress — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 06:47:17 +0000

[...] krav om, at regeringen skal “gøre” noget, er det måske værd at erindre om dette, sakset fra hr. Kommentar: …consider the following thought experiment. In 1963, as King [...]

By: Azi

Azi — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:46:23 +0000

Statistics can be manipulated in any way one wishes. It is interesting how Mr. Reimondo himself is amongst those whose minds are already made up about Iran’s election being fixed.
Tehran is one city in Iran and those demonstrators represent one fraction. The other side does not invite his supporters to come to the streets to prevent clashes. What Mr. reimondo calls repressive regime was democratically voted for by Iranian people in 1979. But since we did not like that vote, that election must have been fraudulent too!

By: Andy

Andy — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:03:35 +0000

Well said Rick.

By: richard vajs

richard vajs — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:07:03 +0000

The neocons just want to bomb Iran. If Ahmadinejad is re-elected – bomb Iran; If Mousavi prevails – bomb Iran; If the Iranians elect Mickey Mouse – bomb Iran. Is that so hard to see?

By: Obama is not an Iranian - I Think, Therefore I Blog : TheDestinLog.com

Obama is not an Iranian - I Think, Therefore I Blog : TheDestinLog.com — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:00:40 +0000

[...] who’ve said the same thing) is a reasonable one, I don’t agree with it. I think antiwar.com is probably correct that it will do more harm than good. For one thing, the American government is [...]

By: Brad Smith

Brad Smith — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:51:11 +0000

Just to let you know the other day I was replying to John not you.

By: Bill Stearns

Bill Stearns — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:29:55 +0000

You give the average American WAY too much credit. Tactics? Strategy? Over moral preening, grandiose statements, and glorious ad hominem attacks? Never!!!