From which branch of government is the military if not the executive? In the absence of an elected executive, or in the case of his/her removal, from where does the military take its orders? The answer, of course, is that under these circumstances the military refuses all civilian authority, ruling in collaboration with wealthy elites against the will of the majority. This is pretty basic stuff. If you don't want to be called a "neocon" or "fascist," you might try avoiding arguments defending military coups, particularly in a country whose military has been controlled by the Pentagon for most of the last 40 years.

Just because "Safariman" claims to be a "longtime Antiwar supporter" does not make him honest, or disqualify him as an outside plant. Like Mr. Barganier, "Safariman" is defending the indefensible in supporting an undemocratic (including suspension of habeas corpus, due process, and freedom of assembly) military coup against an elected government. Hundreds of thousands of Hondurans are fighting in the streets to make this very point. He wants "world leaders" to come to Honduras to check out the situation? No need. US warships are off the coast monitoring every action and providing "logistical support." How dumb do you people think we are?

More ridiculous, however, and transparent, are "Safariman" throwing Hugo Chavez into the mix as a bogeymanproponent of "dictatorial" power. Mr. Chavez has been elected by landslide margins in the last two elections, much to the chagrin of the US government and local elites. With regard to Honduras, Mr. Zalaya's term was up in the end of 2010 and he had not sought re-election. Further, it appears likely that he will be reinstated within the next two days, much to the disappointment of writers and commenters at antiwar.com, it appears. Safariman's comments are demonstrably false and deliberately misleading. This is what we used to all recognize as DISINFORMATION. Please go back undercover, Safariman.

For better reporting, try <a href="http://www.narconews.com/.” target=”_blank”>http://www.narconews.com/.

I love leftists. Disagree with them, and you're not merely mistaken, you're a fascist/anti-Semite/racist/homophobe/etc.

*Furthermore, your characterization of the Honduran junta as "indigenous forces" is quite amusing. They're "indigenous" in the sense that, yes, they're Hondurans.*

So they're indigenous in the sense that they're indigenous? Thanks for clearing that up. I confused myself by using the term correctly.

Furthermore, your characterization of the Honduran junta as "indigenous forces" is quite amusing. They're "indigenous" in the sense that, yes, they're Hondurans. But they don't represent the rule of law or the people of Honduras — or anything other than domination by brute military force. And to quote Justin Raimundo's recent commentary:

"What’s going on in Honduras is yet another chapter in the protracted struggle against the unrestrained power – economic as well as political – of the military, and, as such, Zelaya’s is a righteous cause."

But beyond the twisted logic involved in declaring this coup to be "not a coup", it is simply a bad move for the Honduran military and Zelaya's political opponents. Most news accounts indicate Zelaya's popularity in Honduras was plummeting and, had he been allowed to conduct his poll, the Honduran public would probably have voted against it (see the link in Miguel Medeira's post, below, for the full text of Zelaya's plebicite). The coup has been condemned by the OAS, the UN and Barack Obama (he has condemned both the Honduran coup and the Iranian elections — no inconsistency there), and Zelaya has become a hero. It might not be enough to restore him to the presidency of his country, but he's certainly more popular than he was just a few days ago.

The crimes of George W. Bush were far worse than anything Zelaya may have even contemplated. Yet as satisfying as it would be to see the U.S. military kidnap Bush and exile him to Elba, I would still object to that course of action and I would demand he be returned to office — taking to the streets, if necessary. Again, there can be no possible justification for the coup in Honduras. Unless, of course, you're a fascist or a neocon.

This "democratic move" still looks an awful lot like a military coup.

It's nice to know that there are neocons in Honduras, too.

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