Ron Paul Says Iran Sanctions Will Backfire
Scott Horton,
October 29, 2009
Wednesday, in the House Foreign Affairs Committee, Rep. Ron Paul of Texas explained to his colleagues the reasons for his opposition to the Iranian sanctions legislation and wondered why Congress would try to undermine the president when he’s in the middle of trying to reach a deal with them (Via DailyPaul.com):
Claus-Erik Hamle
October 29th, 2009 at 10:54 am
16 US Intelligence Agencies stated again on September 16 that Iran isn´t developing nuclear weapons. The UN inspectors in Iran say the same. How can Peace Prize Winner Obama then say, "Iran is developing nuclear weapons" ? Is President Obama crazy ?
Mechanized
October 29th, 2009 at 11:30 am
Claus:
Indeed. Please post the source[s] for your statement when time permits. Thank you.
Ray Gordon
October 29th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
All of the hostility towards Iran comes from one source : Israel and its wealthy, disloyal lobby. Ron Paul said that if the U.S. goes to war in Iran, it will destroy the U.S. dollar. He says that Iran is no threat to the U.S. and we should be dialoguing and trading with them, not threatening them.We cannot allow Israel to drag us into a disastrous war in Iran the same way that they did in Iraq.
Hacklheber
October 29th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
I feel the need for a quick-look page of all the relevant links ("IRAN STATUS" or something). In the meantime: http://www.iaea.org/NewsCenter/Focus/IaeaIran/ind...
http://www.iaea.org/Publications/Documents/Board/...
"26. The Agency continues to verify the non-diversion of declared nuclear material in Iran. Iran has cooperated with the Agency in improving safeguards measures at FEP and in providing the Agency with access to the IR-40 reactor for purposes of design information verification. Iran has not, however, implemented the modified text of its Subsidiary Arrangements General Part, Code 3.1, on the early provision of design information.
27. Iran has not suspended its enrichment related activities or its work on heavy water related
projects as required by the Security Council.
28. Contrary to the requests of the Board of Governors and the Security Council, Iran has neither implemented the Additional Protocol nor cooperated with the Agency in connection with the remaining issues of concern which need to be clarified to exclude the possibility of military dimensions to Iran’s nuclear programme. Regrettably, the Agency has not been able to engage Iran in any substantive discussions about these outstanding issues for over a year. The Agency believes that it has provided Iran with sufficient access to documentation in its possession to enable Iran to respond substantively to the questions raised by the Agency. However, the Director General urges Member States which have provided documentation to the Agency to work out new modalities with the Agency so that it could share further documentation with Iran, as appropriate, since the Agency’s inability to do so is rendering it difficult for the Agency to progress further in its verification process.
29. It is critical for Iran to implement the Additional Protocol and clarify the outstanding issues in
order for the Agency to be in a position to provide credible assurance about the absence of undeclared nuclear material and activities in Iran.
30. The Director General will continue to report as appropriate."
liberranter
October 29th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Is President Obama crazy ?
No, he's just a pawn, a marionette owned and controlled by Amerika's Shadow Government that is itching for war with Iran.
Den
October 29th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Of course, Obama is acting out his part as a member of the military-industrial complex. Iran is the last obstacle to US hegemony in the Middle East. Economic sanctions do not hurt the status quo, but deliberately impoverish the average citizen in Iran. Iran is, and has never been a threat to the United States in any manner. Imagine the US being surrounded by countries with nuclear weapons? Would you not feel threatened? Of course, you would. Wasn't that what the Cuban Missile Crisis was about? Ron Paul is correct when he says, "We should be talking and trading with the Iranians"; not threatening then with economic sanctions, and the possibility of invasion. As John F. Kennedy once said, "And we call ourselvers members of the human race," during a discusssion with the Joint Chiefs of Staff to use nuclear weapons to neutralize Cuba and the Soviet Union during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Heathcliff_Maw
October 29th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
I don't think the Congress is trying to undermine Obama's diplomacy. I think they're on the same page. The diplomacy is modeled after Bush's pre-war, fig-leaf diplomacy with Iraq. The sanctions are a prelude to war meant to undermine Iran's economy. However, it takes a lot of time for sanctions to have their desired effect. The United States' economy has already been so badly undermined by the Wall Street pirates that we soon won't have the wherewithal to start a war against Iran or to continue supporting our special "ally" Israel.
paulBass
October 29th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
i assume the British were controlled by aipac when they occupied iran ? how about the russians/ soviets.
just because it is in one parties overwhelming interest doe not mean that it is the sole or even primary reason
Andy
October 29th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
If it wasn’t for Israel and AIPAC the USA would be able to be at peace with Iran.
richard vajs
October 29th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
paulBass,
One of the time honored tactics of the pro Zionist side is to state “Look how small Israel is and the fact that Jews are only a few percentage of Americans, how can you say they control anything?” My answer is to ask” How small is Sicily and how few Americans had both Sicilian ancestry and criminal inclination and yet how powerful was the Mafia in the big cities of the NorthEast during the 20th Century?”
Shaun
October 30th, 2009 at 7:49 am
Ron Paul: the lone voice of sanity and reason in Congress. Go Ron!
1984
October 30th, 2009 at 11:28 am
I doubt it. There are many neocons who'd like to have a permanent presence in Iran. Selfish neo-colonialist goals and the same is true for the very large military industrial oil complex.
Its all a matter about how to get it all started.
mad doctor
October 30th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
its amazing that ron paul hasn't been assassinated yet. be safe ron paul!!
Jane Doe
October 30th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
We get the vast majority of our oil from Canada, Mexico, Saudi Arabia, Nigeria and Venezuela. Except for Saudi Arabia our oil supplies do not come from the Middle East. We have never gotten significant oil from Iran.
The wars in the Middle East and South Asia are for Israel. China and British Petroleum are getting the oil contracts from the Iraqi government, not us. So to say that Iraq was about oil, or Iran will be about oil is… read "The Israel Lobby & US Foreign Policy" by Walt and Mearsheimer.
Avigdor Lieberman, Israel's Foreign Minister, said this last March that Afghanistan and Pakistan were the two greatest threats to Israel. Suddenly, the US State Department declares that we have a new nation called "Af-Pak" that we must attack.
So even in South Asia, Israel is driving us into expanded carnage.
liberranter
October 30th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
I too have often wondered how he's managed to survive, at least politically, as long as he has. I have to believe that the answer is that no matter how popular he becomes among noticeable segments of the public, and no matter how much traction his ideas gain in certain prominent circles, in the end he's only one man, and with a relatively small sphere of influence in Congress at that.
On the other hand, if other candidates for Congress who hold Ron's ideals gain prominence in the future, and if these people manage to get elected to Congress in significant number (or even in a minority number that cannot be ignored), then the Shadow Government might just start to seriously panic.
1984
October 30th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
No no no. Cheney did not map out those Iraqi oil field back in 2001 for nothing.
"The good Lord didn't see fit to put oil and gas only where there are democratically elected regimes friendly to the United States. Occasionally we have to operate in places where, all things considered, one would not normally choose to go. But, we go where the business is." Dick Cheney
There is an oil-war, and making sure there's a permanent presence in the middl-east makes sure that "interests" are protected. This is why the US empire will unlikely leave the middle-east for a very long time.
I don't doubt that AIPAC/Israel influences foreign policy but that alone cannot describe the huge interest of the middle-east USA (and the world generally) has.
Look for oil wars in Africa in the future. This is why Africom has been started. Look for "the war on terrorism" to spread there…
Andy
October 30th, 2009 at 11:53 am
Israel is going to be the ruin of America.
Lear K
October 30th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
“Look for “the war on terrorism” to spread there…”
It aleardy had!The US has military advisors in many African nations such as Algeria,Morrocco.Egypt.Libya,Tunisia,etc.
Lear K
October 30th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
” Leading banks have funded arms manufacturers, whose products include cluster bombs, to the tune of $5 billion in the past two years, despite an international accord to ban such weapons, a study said Thursday.”
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE59S4DL20091029
Jane Doe
October 30th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
Cheney was working with the Zionists at the Project for the New American Century from way back before 2001. Israel and the military industrial complex, as represented by Cheney, Rumsfeld, et goyim al, have worked hand-in-hand for decades.
Bill and Kathy Christison, both former CIA agents in the Middle East, have written extensively on the ties between the military industrial complex and Israel.
But let's get practical here: our endless wars in the Middle East/ South Asia cost a lot more than what it would cost us to negotiate with dictators. Oil companies love dictators because oil companies love stability.
With all due respect, I think that you're a bit naive about how much power the Israel Lobby has, but they have trumped Big Oil in terms of Iraq. And the destabilization of Iran added to Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, will not give the US an advantage. These wars are bankrupting us.
I'm too tired to detail it. But L'chaim.
JooRip
October 31st, 2009 at 12:07 am
You mean if the US didn't have diplomatic and , trade ties with Israel and if the US didn't vote at the UN in ways that make Iran angry the US would have peace with Iran.
Yes lets do what Iran wants.
1984
October 31st, 2009 at 12:10 am
You're right. But I expect at a much larger scale. Or maybe not. Maybe Obama is not as mad as the neocons.
andy
October 31st, 2009 at 2:45 am
We do what Israel wants.
doomed
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:54 am
Please write congress against the Iranian Sanctions. These are S. 1065, Iran Sanctions Enabling Act of 2009; Iran Refined Petroleum Sanctions Act H. R. 2194 & H. RES. 460 (house) & S. 908 (senate). The intent of H. RES. 460 is to expedite H. R. 2194 by pulling it out of committee. Last year a more severe version of these bills complete with a naval blockade was proposed (H.CON.RES 362 & S.RES.580). This shelved partly because of letter writing, but mostly because even congress knows not to start a new war in the middle of a financial crisis.
doomed
November 2nd, 2009 at 6:06 am
Severe Iranian sanctions before any diplomacy is counter productive & put us on track to war with Iran. These sanctions are more inflammatory because they target Iran’s weakness in oil refining. With U.S. support Saddam Hussein destroyed much of Iran’s refinery capability during the Iraq Iran war when he tried to take over Iranian oil rich Khuzestan Province [2].
A failed “diplomacy” will just be used to sell another war to the misinformed American public like Iraq. Iraq was disarmed of WMD in the Clinton Administration (not Bush) & at least a100,000 Iraqi children died because of sanctions before the war not for WMD but for regime change [3].
What Obama said at the G-20 meeting about Iranian Qom refinery are both misleading & fear mongering. The Qom site was not secret, it was declared by the Iranians. It’s still under construction & won’t be operational for over a year. Scott Ritter the former U.N. weapons inspector in Iraq calls it “politically motivated hype”. Before this incident Mohamed ElBaradei, the current Director General of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) said “I think the (Iranian) threat has been hyped," & “dismayed by the allegations of some member states … fed to the media … that information has been withheld from the board … politically motivated and totally baseless … undermine its independence”. Like Scott Ritter in Iraq, ElBaradei is undermined in Iran [4].
[2a] Khuzestan – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kh%C5%ABzest%C4%81n_...
[2b]U. S. support for Iraq –
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_suppor...
[2c] Rumsfeld Shaking Hands with Saddam Hussein -http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/
[2d] Lawsuit: U.S. firms sold poison gas ingredients to Iraq –
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld...
[3a] Iraq sanctions – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_sanctions
[3b] Scott Ritter former U.N. weapons inspector & Marine Intelligence officer http://www.thenationmart.com/ircounstfori.html
[4a] Obama at G-20 http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Statem...
[4b] IAEA Qom – http://www.iaea.org/NewsCenter/Transcripts/2009/t...
[4c] ElBaradei Iran hyped -http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE581...
[4d] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJM_p2GYOiw
joorip
November 2nd, 2009 at 8:23 am
Why is that a reason to do what Iran wants? Besides Israel wouldn't care about Iran if Iran wasn't out to get them.Israel used to have good relations with Iran.
The US ought not give money to Israel but the US ought not give into Iran either.
Anyway why give into iran , cause they blow stuff up if they don't get their way?
joorip
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anti_republocrat
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Much of the above relates to the "Additional Protocol" which Iran voluntarily implemented several years ago as a "confidence-building" measure in hopes the the US and EU would then negotiate in good faith. They also voluntarily suspended enrichment as part of these "confidence-building" measures. Unfortunately, the US and EU did not negotiate in good faith. Instead, they dragged out the negotiations with the expectation that they could delay forever and Iran would continue to comply with the supposedly temporary "confidence-building" measures.
Naturally, after years of this, Iran put a stop to it by resuming its enrichment and added their own "stick" of withdrawing from compliance with the Additional Protocols, which by the way are NOT required by the NPT or international law.
As far as the Board of Governors of the IAEA and the Security Council are concerned, they both overstepped their legal authority granted by the NPT.
Andy
November 3rd, 2009 at 5:48 am
The U.S. should wash its hands of Israel.
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