Somali pirate wannabes?

Earlier this week Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu once again claimed that when they attacked the Mavi Marmara peace convoy on May 31 in international waters, the high-seas Israeli pirates — euphemistically called "commandos" — were acting in self-defense. The Israeli Pirates murdered at least 19, wounded dozens more, and "arrested" (kidnapped) many others.

By Mr. Netanyahu’s interesting logic, when a tanker crew resists Somali pirates, the pirates would claim they were justified in murdering, wounding, and/or kidnapping the tanker crew because the pirates — not the crew — were acting in self-defense.

Similarly, when a homeowner resists home invaders, the invaders were justified in killing, wounding, and/or kidnapping the homeowner and his family and guests because the home invaders — not the homeowner — were acting in self-defense.

This flawed and self-serving reversal of logic is called "blaming the victim" and seems to be a favorite — if disgusting — ploy regularly invoked by Israeli Government spokes-people.

The REAL question is:

"Why do representatives of the Israeli Government regularly get away with such obviously flawed and self-serving arguments, unchallenged, in front of God, U.S. Main Stream Media, and the whole world?"

And, yes, of course the Israelis have the right to defend themselves – – – when they don’t use piracy, home invasion, etc. But so do the Palestinians.

  • R/T

    White , you're a creature of "other peoples opinions " and I doubt you have an original thought or, independently arrived at position of your own .
    Here's a parting shot for you to consider , from a great author :

    "the written word is used to punish the dishonest and to expose the decietfull "
    -Steinbeck

    ISRAELI EXCEPTIONALISM ??…a made up phrase to suit your own bias . bye bye pally , good luck in the " editorial buisiness " .

    • ISRAELI EXCEPTIONALISM ??…a made up phrase to suit your own bias . bye bye pally , good luck in the “editorial buisiness ” . –R/T, 2010/07/20 at 12:19 am

      R/T, if you Google “Israeli Exceptionalism” you'll find approximately 51,000 results. The third is an article by Justin Raimondo entitled “Israeli Exceptionalism.” The first is a book available on Amazon. I suggest you read both. Or pick from the other 50,998 links.

      R/T, for a Chiuhaua, you've got a lot of spunk, but you still can't run with the big dogs. Stay on the porch before you get hurt.

      By the way, thanks for the highly appropriate Steinbeck quote.

  • R/T

    LOL….not even YOUR own made up words ….but Jasons ….. you make a good parrot White …and therein lies your problem . I understand though , ignoring facts for the sake of political and ideological agendas , is a way of life for some people . How does it feel to be a sycophant ?

    Instead of googling that phrase , perhaps before your "editorial "[screed of opinion ], you shoulda been googling IHH /Ken O'Keefe / Oskosi/ Erdogan / Rafa Crossing / Hamas Charter /Palestinian National Charter /-this way you could have written an informed editorial , rather than an opinionated slur .

    p.s. big dogs jump for bones just like the little ones .

  • Here was my reply to R/T's challenge on the phrase "Israeli Exceptionalism" for any who may be tracking this reluctant massacre:

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    ISRAELI EXCEPTIONALISM ??…a made up phrase to suit your own bias . bye bye pally , good luck in the “editorial buisiness ” . –R/T, 2010/07/20 at 12:19 am

    R/T, if you Google “Israeli Exceptionalism” you'll find approximately 51,000 results. The third is an article by Justin Raimondo entitled “Israeli Exceptionalism.” The first is a book available on Amazon. I suggest you read both. Or pick from the other 50,998 links.

    R/T, for a Chiuhaua, you've got a lot of spunk, but you still can't run with the big dogs. Stay on the porch before you get hurt.

    By the way, R/T, thanks for the highly appropriate Steinbeck quote.

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    You'll notice that R/T — as is his habit, apparently — wants it both ways. First he claims I made up the phrase "Israeli exceptionalism" then attempts to discredit me as "unoriginal" when it's a phrase used by at least 51,000 web documents. A clear and disingenuous attempt at "heads I win, tails you lose" by R/T. Nice work if you can get it, but I suspect that, like the Israeli "commandos" attempting to pose as the injured party in the Mavi Marmara hi-jacking, you aren't hiring.

    Further R/T doesn't even get Justin's name right – – – calls him "Jason." If you read through the thread, you will discover this kind of inaccuracy is symptomatic of R/T's far more egregious inaccuracies. So you'll excuse me if I don't take him seriously.

    But I do have to give him credit for one thing: Clearly I must have had one too many in thinking he might have been a paid Israeli operative: The Israelis tend to get their money's worth.

  • Gandolf

    OK Guys, this has become beyond ridiculous!

    To R/T: You are the one type of person that I fear the most in this world. You are an ignorant, viscious and narrow minded zealot!
    Zealot: An immoderate, fanatical, or extremely zealous adherent to a cause, esp a religious one. A fervent and even militant proponent of something. (Historical Terms) any of the members of an extreme Jewish sect or political party that resisted all aspects of Roman rule in Palestine in the 1st century a.d.
    I have horrifyingly observed that there exsits zealots of nearly every religion.
    These people, frighten and disgust me.
    They give bad bad names to many good beliefs.
    Their "shit-balls" seem to spill over onto the true believers of their prospective faiths, tarnishing the good, and brandishing all others of their faith, with their revolting excrement and radical thoughts, prejudiced beliefs, violent words and actions.

    I am ashamed to have acquainted myself with the likes of you.

    You cannot, and never will, in my opinion, see the immense harm that you are doing to others, and especially to your own self. No rational person will ever be able to respect you, or to give any credence to a word that you utter.

    Evenso, there is an old saying that says, "Where there is life, there is hope."
    That thought is my ONLY hope for people like you, R/T.

    As an aside, and an extremely slight amusement.
    I am willing to bet anyone, any amount, that you will NOT be able to cease and desist.
    You have lost this battle of thoughts and words.
    You have proven yourself to be irrational.
    Because you are such a zealot, you will not be able to control yourself, (I think that I am speaking way over your head. I doubt that you have ever known any self-control, and have never attempted any practice of it.)
    My bet is this: You MUST keep on posting, and MUST always have the last word.

    Go ahead R/T….win my bet for me!

  • R/T

    Gandolph , if you fear me , you're paranoid . Last word ? If mr.White is going to comment , then I will reply . So far , for allyour insincere blather gandolph , and ad hominem remarks , you have yet to refute the points I have made , for you , just like White , would rather sit there and claim how much of a threat "people like me are " , while totally ignoring facts . Come down of your sopapbox gandolph , and deal with the facts or refute them , and dont worry about my attitude , because I could care less about yours . STICK TO THE FACTS OF THE MATTER .

    Do nbot expect me to tow the company line , I'm not a parrot or sycophant , as I said , I look at the factrs and form my opinion and position .

    LOL…."battle of thoughts and words " ??? How DRAMATIC ! I seek to win no one over , by this stage of your life , no one can change your preconcieved notions and biases , least of all me . I simply refute this badly written , biased and ridiculous analogy posed by White .

  • R/T

    As for the made up term "Israel Exceptionalism " , it simply a euphemism for a biased point of view regarding Israel . A martian landing here for the first time , and clicking on this blog would only need about 15 seconds to determine the "flavor " here ….and that's your buisiness , I dont have to have shoved down my throat , especially when it involves misinformation and distortion of facts . LOL….White touts that Israel Exceptionalism is mentiuon55,000 times on Google , what does that mean ? Does THAT give it credibility ? It's probably mentioned a few million times on Google that 9/11 was done by "someone else " …does that give the conspiracy theory credibility ?> Of course it doesn't …anyone willing to investigate physics , metallurgy , architecture ,engineering , not to mention what they have seen with their own eyes , know exactly what happened and by whom .
    If FACTS offend you gandolph , or they intimidate as they do White…..oh well .

  • R/T

    And no , gandolph , you are not speaking over my head , not by anymeans , if anything I am stooping to yours , for with a screename like "gandolph , your fantasy world extends beyond the movie screen . The REALITY on the ground , does not compliment your world view , and your reaction is to denigrate me personally rather than deal with the exposed facts .
    So come down from the pulpit , gandolph , your foolish words, already been heard , and save your condescending lectures for the gullible .

  • R/T

    My compliments and respect to AntiWar . I underestimated your tolerance for free speech and opposing views . Unlike Front Page , Little Green Footballs , Islamic Forum , Pat Buchanon , Media Matters , where going against the flow will get you banned or permanently "awaiting moderation " .

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