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		<title>Kevin Drum on Mike Gravel and Dennis Kucinich</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 19:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Matt Barganier</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kevin Drum advises those who want a noninterventionist, pro–civil liberties candidate to ditch Ron Paul and look elsewhere. I grew curious about what Drum had to say about the two least interventionist, most pro–civil liberties Democrats who ran for president in 2008. Here&#8217;s Drum on Mike Gravel: About halfway through last night&#8217;s debate I suddenly [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2012/01/04/kevin-drum-not-a-crackpot/">Kevin Drum</a> advises those who want a noninterventionist, pro–civil liberties candidate to ditch Ron Paul and look elsewhere. I grew curious about what Drum had to say about the two least interventionist, most pro–civil liberties Democrats who ran for president in 2008. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2007_10/012394.php">Here&#8217;s Drum on Mike Gravel</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>About halfway through last night&#8217;s debate I suddenly noticed that Mike Gravel was missing. What happened?</p>
<blockquote><p>
Democratic Presidential candidate Mike Gravel was forced to withdraw from the Oct. 30 Drexel debate after being unable to meet the required criteria for polling and fundraising. The criteria to participate are set by NBC news and include sufficient and polling requirements, as well as an actively documented campaign.</p>
<p>&#8220;There was no record that Gravel made more than five separate appearances in New Hampshire [and] Iowa, where the first caucuses will be held,&#8221; NBC News Political Director Chuck Todd said. Gravel&#8217;s campaign committee claims that he has made more appearances, but that his schedules were not released.
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<p>Thank God. <strong>I know lots of people support Gravel&#8217;s appearance in the debates based on some inchoate belief that &#8220;he deserves to be heard,&#8221; but not me.</strong> He&#8217;s not seriously running and he never has been, and the point of the debates is to give the public a look at actual candidates, not to give equal time to any crank who has a burning desire to mouth off to a national audience. That&#8217;s what blogs are for.</p>
<p>Good riddance, Mike. The court jester routine got stale a long time ago.</p></blockquote>
<p>Emphasis mine. There&#8217;s plenty more of that in Drum&#8217;s archives. Drum mostly just ignored Kucinich, as far as I can tell, though he did say <strong>four months before the Iowa caucuses</strong> that Kucinich, Gravel, and the slightly antiwar, marginally pro–civil liberties Chris Dodd should &#8220;<a href="http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2007_09/012051.php">put their egos back into cold storage and stop wasting our time</a>.&#8221; </p>
<p>It&#8217;s almost as if Kevin Drum considers noninterventionism and civil libertarianism themselves cranky.  </p>
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		<title>Kevin Drum: Not a Crackpot</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 17:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Matt Barganier</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kevin Drum of Mother Jones has some fatherly advice for all you idiots: Bottom line: Ron Paul is not merely a &#8220;flawed messenger&#8221; for these views. He&#8217;s an absolutely toxic, far-right, crackpot messenger for these views. This is, granted, not Mussolini-made-the-trains-run-on-time levels of toxic, but still: if you truly support civil liberties at home and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin Drum of <em>Mother Jones</em> has <a href="http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/01/crackpots-messengers">some fatherly advice</a> for all you idiots:</p>
<blockquote><p>Bottom line: Ron Paul is not merely a &#8220;flawed messenger&#8221; for these views. He&#8217;s an absolutely toxic, far-right, crackpot messenger for these views. This is, granted, not Mussolini-made-the-trains-run-on-time levels of toxic, but still: if you truly support civil liberties at home and non-interventionism abroad, you should run, not walk, as fast as you can to keep your distance from Ron Paul. … In fact, to the extent that his foreign policy views aren&#8217;t simply being ignored, I&#8217;d guess that the only thing he&#8217;s accomplishing is to make non-interventionism even more of a fringe view in American politics than it already is. Crackpots don&#8217;t make good messengers.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, one thing you can definitely say about Kevin Drum is that he&#8217;s no crackpot. No sirree. He knows that in dissent lurks crankery. When he catches the first whiff of deviation from the D.C. consensus, he hightails it back to Broderville. For example:</p>
<p><a href="http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2011/10/should-us-troops-be-uganda">Kevin Drum, Oct. 17, 2011</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Aside from the fact that Barack Obama did not, in fact, send troops to Uganda in order to &#8220;kill Christians,&#8221; what should we think about the fact that he sent troops to Uganda in the first place? Needless to say, I&#8217;m far more hesitant about sending U.S. troops anywhere than I was a decade ago….</p>
<p>… I&#8217;m pretty much OK with this operation.</p>
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<p><a href="http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2011/03/obamas-judgment">Kevin Drum, April 1, 2011</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>So what should I think about this? If it had been my call, I wouldn&#8217;t have gone into Libya. But the reason I voted for Obama in 2008 is because I trust his judgment. And not in any merely abstract way, either: I mean that if he and I were in a room and disagreed about some issue on which I had any doubt at all, I&#8217;d literally trust his judgment over my own. I think he&#8217;s smarter than me, better informed, better able to understand the consequences of his actions, and more farsighted. I voted for him because I trust his judgment, and I still do.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2003_02/000475.php">Kevin Drum, Feb. 21, 2003</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>As much as I&#8217;m unhappy about how the Bush administration has mishandled everything, backing out now could have disastrous consequences. And so we liberal hawks hold our noses and hope for the best.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2003_02/000373.php">Kevin Drum, Feb. 9, 2003</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>I&#8217;ve gotten a lot of email critical of my post on Thursday suggesting that Colin Powell had indeed made a strong case in his UN speech. This administration has lied about everything, they ask, so how can you be so credulous as to believe their latest dog and pony show? …</p>
<p>… I am sympathetic to the idea that George Bush has shown himself to be so hamhanded in foreign affairs that there&#8217;s little likelihood of success as long as he&#8217;s in power. And yet, what&#8217;s the alternative? We need to try, and I&#8217;m inclined — barely — to give him a chance. Something has to kick start the Middle East into the 21st century, and I don&#8217;t see anyone else willing or able to do it. …</p>
<p>So that&#8217;s it. I have tremendous misgivings about this war….</p>
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<p><a href="http://www2.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2003_02/000346.php">Kevin Drum, Feb. 6, 2003</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>I am sympathetic to the notion that administrations lie a lot on the subject of war, and I&#8217;m certainly sympathetic to the idea that this particular administration routinely lies about anything they think they can get away with. And yet&#8230;.that leaves us with a problem, doesn&#8217;t it? If, <em>a priori</em>, nothing the administration says is believable, then opposition to war simply becomes a religious doctrine. After all, no one else is going to try and make the case.</p>
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<p>Now I found all of that in about half an hour <a href="http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2011/10/18/kevin-drum-perpetual-skeptic/">several months ago</a>, so those who care to look should be able to find plenty of additional confirmation that Kevin Drum is no crackpot. </p>
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		<title>Deep Thoughts From The Guardian</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 15:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Matt Barganier</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Will the Republicans ban sex in 2010 [sic]? Why did those &#8220;government-hating,&#8221; &#8220;market-worshipping&#8221; Republicans &#8220;sacrifice all the workers and retirees&#8221;? Why mustn&#8217;t we despise our corrupt, corporatist governments? Read The Guardian and find out! Well, OK, just read one article from that august publication: Glenn Greenwald&#8217;s analysis of the Republicans&#8217; greatest difficulty in campaigning against [...]]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/dec/20/my-prediction-republicans-ban-sex">Will the Republicans ban sex in 2010 [sic]</a>? <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/dec/19/obama-stimulus-failure-dean-baker">Why did those &#8220;government-hating,&#8221; &#8220;market-worshipping&#8221; Republicans &#8220;sacrifice all the workers and retirees&#8221;</a>? <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/dec/16/western-politicians-government-leaderships-failing">Why mustn&#8217;t we despise our corrupt, corporatist governments</a>? Read <em>The Guardian</em> and find out!</p>
<p>Well, OK, just read one article from that august publication: Glenn Greenwald&#8217;s <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/dec/27/vote-obama-centrist-republican">analysis of the Republicans&#8217; greatest difficulty in campaigning against Obama</a>. Much of it is off-topic for this site, but here&#8217;s a relevant snippet:</p>
<blockquote><p>It is in the realm of foreign policy, terrorism and civil liberties where Republicans encounter an insurmountable roadblock. A staple of GOP politics has long been to accuse Democratic presidents of coddling America&#8217;s enemies (both real and imagined), being afraid to use violence, and subordinating US security to international bodies and leftwing conceptions of civil liberties.</p>
<p>But how can a GOP candidate invoke this time-tested caricature when Obama has embraced the vast bulk of George Bush&#8217;s terrorism policies; waged a war against government whistleblowers as part of a campaign of obsessive secrecy; led efforts to overturn a global ban on cluster bombs; extinguished the lives not only of accused terrorists but of huge numbers of innocent civilians with cluster bombs and drones in Muslim countries; engineered a covert war against Iran; tried to extend the Iraq war; ignored Congress and the constitution to prosecute an unauthorised war in Libya; adopted the defining Bush/Cheney policy of indefinite detention without trial for accused terrorists; and even claimed and exercised the power to assassinate US citizens far from any battlefield and without due process?</p>
<p>Reflecting this difficulty for the GOP field is the fact that former Bush officials, including Dick Cheney, have taken to lavishing Obama with public praise for continuing his predecessor&#8217;s once-controversial terrorism polices. In the last GOP foreign policy debate, the leading candidates found themselves issuing recommendations on the most contentious foreign policy question (Iran) that perfectly tracked what Obama is already doing, while issuing ringing endorsements of the president when asked about one of his most controversial civil liberties assaults (the due-process-free assassination of the American-Yemeni cleric Anwar Awlaki). Indeed, when it comes to the foreign policy and civil liberties values Democrats spent the Bush years claiming to defend, the only candidate in either party now touting them is the libertarian Ron Paul, who vehemently condemns Obama&#8217;s policies of drone killings without oversight, covert wars, whistleblower persecutions, and civil liberties assaults in the name of terrorism.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Americans from Across the Political Spectrum Call for End to U.S. Militarism</title>
		<link>http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2011/07/05/americans-from-across-the-political-spectrum-call-for-end-to-u-s-militarism/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2011 21:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Angela Keaton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Tuesday, July 5th 2011 FOR FURTHER INFORMATION Kevin B. Zeese KBZeese at Gmail.com, 518-543-6920 Americans from Across the Political Spectrum Call for End to U.S. Militarism Washington, DC: Putting aside political differences on other issues, Americans from across the political spectrum have sent a letter to the president and congress urging an [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE<br />
Tuesday, July 5th 2011</p>
<p>FOR FURTHER INFORMATION<br />
Kevin B. Zeese<br />
KBZeese at Gmail.com, 518-543-6920</p>
<p>Americans from Across the Political Spectrum Call for End to U.S. Militarism</p>
<p>Washington, DC: Putting aside political differences on other issues, Americans from across the political spectrum have sent a letter to the president and congress urging an end to U.S. militarism. The letter, spearheaded by Come Home America, cites a combination of events that present a “historic opportunity to redirect U.S. foreign policy down the pathways of peace, liberty, justice, respect for community, obedience to the rule of law and fiscal responsibility.” The full letter with all signers can be seen at www.ComeHomeAmerica.US.</p>
<p>The letter was signed by advisers to Presidents Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, George W. Bush and Bill Clinton; by former presidential candidates of the Libertarian, Socialist and Green Parties as well as independent, Ralph Nader and by representatives of think tanks including the Institute for Policy Studies, The Independent Institute, The Future of Freedom Foundation, Hoover Institution, Ludwig von Mises Institute and Just Foreign Policy, and a wide range of publications including The American Conservative, Antiwar.com, Black Agenda Report, Black Commentator, FireDogLake.com, Liberty for All, Liberty for America, OpEdNews.com, The Progressive, Progressive Review, Raw Story, OpEdNews.com and Reason.</p>
<p>Among the signers are:</p>
<p>Doug Bandow, Former Special Assistant to President Ronald Reagan</p>
<p>Robert Dickson Crane, Richard Nixon’s principal foreign policy adviser, 1963-68, Deputy Director for Planning, National Security Council, 1969</p>
<p>Daniel Ellsberg, Pentagon Papers whistleblower</p>
<p>Michael Kinnamon, General Secretary, National Council of Churches</p>
<p>Rabbi Michael Lerner, Editor, Tikkun Magazine, Chair, The Network of Spiritual Progressives</p>
<p>Tom Maertens, Former Director, National Security Council under Presidents Clinton and George W. Bush</p>
<p>Daniel McCarthy, Editor, American Conservative</p>
<p>Coleen Rowley, Former FBI Agent and one of TIME’s 2002 Persons of the Year</p>
<p>Ann Wright, US Army Colonel (ret.) and former US diplomat</p>
<p>The letter emphasizes how U.S. militarism undermines the rule of law, weakens the economy, makes Americans less safe and brings widespread and pointless suffering around the world. The letter concludes, citing our founding president:</p>
<p>“George Washington urged Americans to ‘cultivate peace and harmony with all’ and to ‘avoid overgrown military establishments,” which are “hostile to republican liberty.’ It is time for Americans to reject fear and militarism and embrace the highest, noblest aspirations of our heritage. It is time to come home, America.”</p>
<p><a href="http://comehomeamerica.wordpress.com/dear-president-obama/">If you would like to read the full text and sign the letter, click here</a>. </p>
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		<title>Face It, Progs: Obama&#8217;s a Dud</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 18:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Matt Barganier</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rachel Maddow, on the other hand, appears to be a keeper. In the clip below, she explains how President Obama, principled opponent of prosecuting or even investigating past crimes, plans to lock people up for future crimes. Forever. To be fair, that is literally progressive. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uuWVHT1WUY[/youtube]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rachel Maddow, on the other hand, appears to be a keeper. In the clip below, she explains how President Obama, principled opponent of <a href="http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2009/04/24/the-paradox-of-law-the-past-as-prologue/">prosecuting or even investigating <em>past</em> crimes</a>, plans to lock people up for future crimes. Forever. </p>
<p>To be fair, that is literally progressive.</p>
<p>[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uuWVHT1WUY[/youtube]</p>
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