Last month the US issued an ultimatum to Iran, demanding it fully cooperate with the IAEA by March or else face further action and possible measures at the UN Security Council. Micah Zenko, fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, speculates that this “could indicate that the Obama administration is moving toward the zone of immunity logic.”
Zenko is referring to the Israeli standard for deciding to go to war with Iran. Up to now, the Israeli standard to attack Iran is not when it has nuclear weapons or presents an imminent threat to Israel, but rather when Iran’s nuclear program is sufficiently advanced and redundant across the country – although not being weaponized – that Israeli military action would be inadequate to significantly retard it.
The US standard, at least as commonly understood, has been a little stricter. Washington has implied it will resort to war only if Iran is demonstrably weaponizing its nuclear program and on the verge of having a nuclear bomb.
Despite the semantic differences, the two postures are essentially the same. Both the US and Israel have ignored the legal standard for resorting to war – to block an imminent attack, i.e. self-defense – and crafted their own standard, which says they can bomb Iran to smithereens if they judge that at some point in the future Iran might be able to deter US or Israeli aggression. Iran must be kept weak and defenseless, the thinking goes, otherwise we wouldn’t be able to obliterate them at will.
This speaks to Iran’s nuclear posture, which is aimed at what is sometimes called “a breakout capability.” In an environment of constant threats of war, economic sanctions, and being surrounded by the US military, Iran has tried to abstain from developing nuclear weapons while having the know-how needed to get there; this essentially is an attempt to have a deterrent without actually having a deterrent. They don’t get in trouble for having a weapon, but they are able to ward off attack or invasion.
US intelligence corroborates this analysis. As James Clapper, Director of National Intelligence, has repeatedly said, “We don’t believe they’ve actually made the decision to go ahead with a nuclear weapon.”
So if the US’s announcement of a March deadline really does indicate a gradual shift toward the more trigger-happy Israeli standard for preemption, “how would this new intelligence be presented as a justification for war?” Zenko asks. After all, “it is tough to make the case for going to war with Iran because it refused to concentrate its nuclear sites (that are under IAEA safeguards) in above-ground facilities that can be easily bombed.”
Setting a March deadline provides some certainty and perhaps coercive leverage to compel Iran to cooperate with the IAEA. But declaring deadlines also places U.S. “credibility” on the line, generating momentum to use force even if there is no new actionable intelligence that Iran has decided to pursue a nuclear weapon. Based on what we know right now, that would be a strategic miscalculation.
A strategic miscalculation…and a savage war crime. Bombing Iran without the justification of self-defense against an imminent attack would be a war crime, a war of aggression. In the words of the Nuremberg Tribunal, “To initiate a war of aggression is not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime, differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole.”
And the effects of such a war of choice would certainly be evil. As a recent report by former government officials, national security experts and retired military officers concluded “achieving more than a temporary setback in Iran’s nuclear program would require a military operation – including a land occupation – more taxing than the Iraq and Afghanistan wars combined.” More taxing, not just in dollar amounts and military resources, but in lives lost.
A recent study from the University of Utah’s Hinckley Institute of Politics found, an attack that tried to take out more than four of Iran’s main enrichment facilities would cause immediate casualties of an estimated “10,000 people.” And according to a 2009 study by the Center for Strategic and International Studies “any strike on the Bushehr nuclear reactor will cause the immediate death of thousands of people living in or adjacent to the site, and thousands of subsequent cancer deaths or even up to hundreds of thousands depending on the population density along the contamination plume.” The fierce insurgency and counter-insurgency efforts that would inevitably take place, including a flood of jihadist fighters from around the world à la Iraq, would mean hundreds of thousands of lives lost.
More than that, an attack on Iran would motivate them to actually start building nuclear weapons in order to deter further aggression, bringing exactly the result the war-mongers claim they’re trying to prevent.
So why would the Obama administration ratchet up the stakes and impose an arbitrary March deadline? They claim there is a diplomatic window. As Clinton explained, “What was meant about the March reference was either about the IAEA and its continuing work or the fact that we finished our election and now would be a good time to test the proposition that there can be some good-faith serious negotiations before the Iranians get into their elections.” Elections make diplomacy harder, so yes, there is a diplomatic window. But the Obama administration may have locked themselves into a box by implicitly adopting the Israeli standard for preemptive war on Iran.
The Longer the U.S. Waits the more time Iran has to Produce Yellow Cake, Inrinch Urainum. They are making a fool out of us the U.S..The time to Strike is now do not Let Iran Become a neutral Zone. WE must strike or face the unknow of Iran!!!!!!!
The time to strike is now, I Agree, but should be on countries like America and an aparthied state with 300 illegal nuclear bombs. The world is waiting to see these war criminlas go into garbage bin as soon as possible. DOWN WITH IMPERIALSIM AND ZIONISM, THE ENEMY OF HUMANITY.
DOWN WITH BABY KILLERS.
WTF you people are smoking…, and WHTF you getting it.
This is sarcasm right?
asking Dennis, waf is it that he and his gang of corrupt corporates of zionists hand in hand with the Neo Fascism are smoking and getting it from.., I am sure is not Columbian because they don't even deal with these kind of people, they are more civilized then these.
DENNIS. why don't you join the attack. sitting behind a computer and advocating war is easy. you talk the talk, but can you walk the walk? u.s can decide when to start a war, but can not decide when to ent it. the recent study shows an attack on iran would cost $1.8 trillion for the first 3 months, and you can bit that iran will sink many of american ships in the persian gulf, would close the strait of hormuz and choke the world from oil. and the casualties on both side would be in thousends . Iran is not another iraq or afganistan. afghan people defeated u.s and nato with $10 hand made bombs. Iran strategically has the upper hand and controls all the east coast of the persian gulf with millitary defences set up in every corner. it also has many small island in the gulf which are also millitarized for defence. u.s has not seen a real war since the IIww, and attacking iran would be the last attack they would do. If u.s was able to attack iran and control it, it would have done it a long time ago.the same goes with the isrealis.
denniis continue If they could attack Iran nuclear facilities , they would have done it secretly w/o anouncing it just like they did iraq and syria. the reason they are so vocal and keep saying they will attack is because they can not do it and they want the u.s to do their dirty work. there is no way that u.s can win a war against iran in iran's backyard. Iran will not go down w/o a fight and it will bring down the u.s empire to it;s knees and that would be the end of the u.s isreali controled empire.
Go right ahead. Nobody is stopping you. Maybe Romney and his 5 sons want to join you.
possibly the most ignorant thing i've read today. and your spelling is atrocious…
Zionist and the stoogies never fight, they like to send our son and daughter to fight for them just like Netanyahu asking Obama & Bush to do the dirty and criminal wars for them.
WHERE IS THE COMMENT IN RESPONSE TO DENNIS? IT WAS HERE ONE DAY AND ANTIWAR REMOVED IT TODAY.
Really? That's what you MF said about Iraq. There no country on earth deserve attack as Israel does. "These Zionist should be eliminated from the page of history".
My dear beloved leader Ahmadinejad stated once. – I am an American who is ashamed of my president and the whore hose of representatives and the sheety senate.
Always easy to spot Israeli hasbara by the stilted English. I imagine you will be on the first El Al flight to the U.S. after the attack, when the Shia declare jihad against Israel. Please do not insult me with your inclusive "us".
as soon as we strike obamas ndaa marshal law will go in affect look it up fema is ready to seize us in a us marshal law
I am really enjoying reading your well written articles.(*(((
"So why would the Obama administration ratchet up the stakes and impose an arbitrary March deadline?"
Prolly cause the economy will go into the crapper by then (not that it's any good now but it'll get worse).
Gotta have a war before we hit 50% youth unemployment like Greece or Spain.
So Dennis and the War Party will be dancing in the streets soon to their favorite song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4PmO9Pavqc
So Dennis and the War Party will be dancing in the streets soon to their favorite song
Their favorite song is 9/11. Remember they were jumping up and down, as Art Students with camera waiting for the airplane to come to film the terror that they were designed and implimented and then FRAMED 19 Arabs with Box cutter!!!
No such word as "prolly", genius!
a war on iran would unleash hell for the US and americans world wide. I for one would not board a plane or go to crowded places again….
The terrorists in the US will go bankrupt. So, they won´t be able to terrorize the world any more. However, extra-judicial killings by drones will continue. They are right: United Bluff IS The Great Satan.
There are some indication directing the matter of war with Iran, yet they have to land either in Lebanon or be able to send that 75000 solders into Syria and have paid Israel to join in before the dead line. Until then they are going to entertain you with over cliff under cliff doing "summersault" or not, having another ship sent to Mediterranean sea, which by the way is a lie because there are many of them already in Italy close to Syria and ready to fire.
So as Swedish neo Fascism government also ready so as French, the English.., anyhow back to entertainment.
Ha I would like to know how the U.S. would afford war on Iran? We too greedy to spend more on wars.
And don't say we need there oil we got plenty here at home and in Iraq.
God dammit – why are my fellow U.S. citizens not doing anything?
We are approaching a massive conflagration… a conflagration that doesn't need to happen, if the U.S. populace just opens their eyes a *tiny* little bit more.
We have time, but not much… how to make this happen?
If only i could devote myself to building an information campaign full time.
God, I hate being helpless.
And what would be the truth as you see it……just curious. :) and no need to take God's name in vain.
The truth, Sunny, in case you wanted to know, is the opposite of anything Fox, AIPAC and the other neo-zio-cons spout out of their a-holes. Also, the only ones taking the name of God in vain are the religious right both in the US and in Israel who constantly make reference to having God on their side and quote biblical passages in a disgusting attempt to justify the mistreatment of Palestinians. That settle your curiosity?
"the mistreatment of Palestinians" LOL – You 'avin' a larf! The Palestinians have mistreated themselves for 70 years! They allowed that idiotic meglomaniac Yasser Arafat to do absolutely nothing whilst still pulling a nice fat salary all that time. Arafat could easily, and should have, signed a peace agreement with Israel that would have benefited the Palestinians. Instead he has let that bunch of Hamas fuckwits into power to shell Israel night and day. Can't hear many of you marxist socialist bleeding hearts moaning about that though. Socialists? Evil disgusting people who should be shot at birth.
If war happens in March, it will have been 10 years since GWB invaded Iraq.
What the author of this article fails to grasp is that the legal criteria for anticipatory self-defence are by no means clear cut. By most accounts, it does not entail an imminent armed attack since such would be an impossible standard when it comes to nuclear threats. Rather, the standard is thought to be an imminent threat, the criteria for which are a clearly expressed intention (check), action undertaken to make this intention into a positive threat (check) and a situation in which waiting or doing anything other than fighting greatly magnifies the risk (check).
It is interesting to see how the author manages to extrapolate all sorts of events into the future (ie, cost of war, casualties, region up in flames etc), while neglecting to extrapolate other events (ie, Israel being held at gunpoint, massive instability, nuclear proliferation).
Warmongering is wrong on many levels. Anti-warmongering in this situation however is probably even worse…
prowar. what the hell are you talking about. Isreal being held at gunpoint? isrealis are the one holding the gun. isreal is the actual cause of all these wars that we are in. starting with iraq and their fabricated weopon of mass distruction against iraq. they are behind the syrian unrest as well. It is this evil state that has been the cause of all these wars. no one buy your isreali bs agenda any more. .
Well I might not buy into bullshit, Mr Spring12, but you would be surprised how many of us see your statement as nothing short of anti-semitic bile and hate and utterly irrational.
What the &*() do you expect Israel to do??? They've been hit repeatedly with wars that the arabs have started with Israel – and always getting their first strike in, even to start one war on a religious holiday! They are surrounded, or had it escaped your attention, by idiots, just like you, wanting to see them wiped off the face of the Earth. So you expect them to just site there and take the hits? Clearly from your moronic posting you do! What a twat!
Holy Molly! I've never seen so much about nothing in one paragraph before. This can be summarized with Shakespares famous "much ado about nothing"
"Rather, the standard is thought to be an imminent threat, the criteria for which are a clearly expressed intention (check), action undertaken to make this intention into a positive threat (check) and a situation in which waiting or doing anything other than fighting greatly magnifies the risk (check)."
Yawn. By that standard, any number of countries would be justified in bombing the holy s#it out of the US and Israel.
so that means 21 December 2012 has got an extension…til March 2013..OKEYYYYYYYYYYYY LET'S PARTY.
The report states that there might be 10,000 Iranian deaths, but the truth is that there would be at least 1 milllion killed in Iran. This is not a war but a genocide that is being planned and prepared. Isn't this one of the main reasons people voted for Obama – because he would take such an action ? Cannot any of our leaders stand up to Israeli pressure ? Are we doomed to follow the dictates of Israel to our own destruction ?
I meant to say because Romney would take such an action and Obama would not.
Having never looked at this site's Comment section before, and I've got to say I'm surprised at the illiteracy & irrationality on display.
Proverbs 15:2 – The tongue of the wise useth knowledge aright: but the mouth of fools poureth out foolishness.
As long as the conflagration ends with Israel no longer a factor, I shall say "and thus it was written".
Why's that El Tonno? What have you got against Israel. Since they are the only real democracy in the whole of that region your comment would suggest your total lack of fairness and democracy. It would also suggest you approve of the followers of the Pedophile. How strange is THAT!
Now that Obomber has retained the reigns of the Empire, he has nothing to lose by unleashing the dogs of war on another sovereign nation. Besides, if Bibi tell him to jump, he only asks how high.
I wonder why articles made in the US, this one being a case in point always leave out one important consequence: the heavy casualty numbers Americans are likely to suffer as a result of an aggression against Iran. Iran's rapid scientific progress has enabled it to significantly develop its defense and retaliatory capabilities yet American commentators prefer to keep their readers in the dark about this reality. They lead their audience to falsely believe that war will not be catastrophic on the American side, (mis)leading many to support senseless wars.
They also seem to convienently forget about Iran's guided missles . . . . the US aircraft carriers are floating time bombs loaded with ordinance and fuel. Shoot 50 guided missles almost simultainiously at one aircraft carrier, and it is gone, no ifs or buts about it. Once the aircraft carriers are gone, the battleships are sitting ducks. Iran also has our drone technology . . . war with Iran will not prove to be a worthwhile endeavor to say the least.
The Bilderbergers will be rubbing their hands with glee at the number of deaths. J.P. Morgan, Rothschilds, CFR, Skull & Bones, Illuminati – yep thy're going to be real happy with one more war.
shame on Glazer and anitwar. Where is the second comment in response to zionist dennis?
Do you make sense from time to time?
ANITWAR IN THE SERVICE OF THE US GOVERNMENT. WHY DO YOU REMOVE COMMENTS AFTER THEY ARE POSTED?
Because they mention the you know who. Rhymes with bikes.
How about we attack Israel first, they already have nuclear weapons, and they are just as much of a threat to world peace, if not more, than Iran.
I am going to look for when they said they were going to wipe an entire nation off the grid. prior to being provoked by Iran or basically all of the middle eastern nations. until then. I think Israel has been pretty cool about this.
Didn't they start the 2nd Gulf War on March 19th? 2003. It lasted until May 1st ("May Day"). They'll probably launch the bombing runs on Iran, on March 19th, 2013, and finish it all up, by May 1st, again. May 1st is like the premier occultic date for the .01% of the 1%. They have to wrap it up by then, so they can jizz all over themselves while making child sacrifices, in front of some owl, or Moloch, or Satan.
thats funny dude lol but probably true
Antiwar.com's comments section on Israel and the U.S. always results in the same thing… Muslims nothing more then upset and want to see Americans and Israeli's irraticated. What ever happened to peace? See, you don't want a war against Iran which will result in hundreds of thousands of Iranians dead. You just want to see Americans and Israeli's, (or as you all say it, "zionists") in their "occupied territories" murdered and wiped off the earth. This may come as a shock, but the Middle East hasn't seen PEACE in a long time because all of the palastinians when not fighting for a religious/muslim cause, are attacking each other! Then you wonder why Israel and America are setting deadlines as a country that is home to palastinian radicals attempts to get nuclear weapons!?
I'm not buying the writer's argument. I have never seen Obama as a lapdog for Israel. He made some serious mistakes in his first term (the Afghan troop surge and the illegal bombing of Libya and murder of Khaddafi come to mind). But, I have never seen him as a war mongerer like neocons McCain and Graham. After his victory, he has toughened up against his sworn Repub opponents and is bound to win the current tax hike argument. Maybe, just maybe, he will also toughen up against those who want to start what would be a disastrous war against Iran. It's past due that Obama work to earn the Nobel Prize that was prematurely given to him far too early in his presidency. I see him as now playing for the history books – not for Israel. Of course, I could be wrong.
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Even though we have had 10 years of these stories about Iran being attacked, there is now a fundamental geo-strategic development which has removed the only barrier to such an act – and that is the completion of the UAE oil pipeline which will serve Asia in the event that the Straits of Hormuz are closed. This pipeline been laid for the one purpose of removing China's only objection to a strike on Iran. The US is not expecting the Straits to be closed for much more than a couple of weeks anyhow.
The US is powerless to stop Iran from closing the strait. Iran has hundreds of sunburn missiles aimed at US aircraft carriers, and its ships. These missiles fly at Mach 3. The West is going to get a beatdown like never before, plus Russia, and China will be helping Iran if it is attacked.
With Iran knowing the overall capability of the US military it is highly unlikely they would fire in US carriers. The result would be Iran looking much like Japan after the bombing of Pearl Harbor.
The Obama administration is moving toward the zone of immunity logic.”
The US’s economy feeds on war and military spending; 600 billions yearly military spending will generate about $2.5 trillions economic gross for the US economy, that is 15% of the country’s GDP.
As long as special interests groups are allowed to influence US’s national policies, there will not be peace in the world. Groups such as: Military industrial complex, Oil industry, the Jewish groups, the Multinational corporations, and who knows how many other special interests groups who are allowed to influence US’s national agenda.
Because the American economy feeds on war, military spending generates nearly 15% of the US’s GDP. A war in the Middle-East also bring High oil prices for the global Oil companies, a war with Iran also satisfies the Jewish lobbyist groups, who are willing to sacrifice the entire the United States for the interests of their beloved Israel.
From political perspective; the US’s wars will certainly halt American democracy for the sake of national security (e.g. the Patriot Act,) which allowed the government’s excessive control over its citizens. The security industry also profits from the wars, they too are the major generators of economic growth (e.g. private security firms, surveillance equipments manufacturers, and so forth) all of which contribute to the country’s economic growth.
The US economy feeds on war and military spending, in America war or peace is no longer a philosophical discussion or a political decision but an economic necessity, which is based on special interests groups’ selfish interests to the detriment of ordinary Americans.
The US’s economy feeds on war and military spending; 600 billions yearly military spending will generate about $2.5 trillions economic gross for the US economy, that is 15% of the country’s GDP.
As long as special interests groups are allowed to influence US’s national policies, there will not be peace in the world. Groups such as: Military industrial complex, Oil industry, the Jewish groups, the Multinational corporations, and who knows how many other special interests groups who are allowed to influence US’s national agenda.
Because the American economy feeds on war, military spending generates nearly 15% of the US’s GDP. A war in the Middle-East also bring High oil prices for the global Oil companies, a war with Iran also satisfies the Jewish lobbyist groups, who are willing to sacrifice the entire the United States for the interests of their beloved Israel.
From political perspective; the US’s wars will certainly halt American democracy for the sake of national security (e.g. the Patriot Act,) which allowed the government’s excessive control over its citizens. The security industry also profits from the wars, they too are the major generators of economic growth (e.g. private security firms, surveillance equipements manufacturers, and so forth) all of which contribute to the country’s economic growth.
The US economy feeds on war and military spending, in America war or peace is no longer a philosophical discussion or a political decision but an economic necessity, which is based on special interests groups’ selfish interests to the detriment of ordinary Americans.
The US does not win war's…those touting Uncle Sam as a viable war machine are sadly mistaken. Furthermore, Russia and China have openly threatened nuclear war against the US, and anyone attacking Iran. Wake up Western noodles!! China, and Russia are multilateral while the US is a terrorist police state along with the grotesque Israel at its side.
And so, your point was? It's not like any lesson or instruction from the Iraq/Afghanistan experience has registered on the human suffering scale for these people. They'll do what they want to do, they don't care about the consequences. That hasn't changed since Iraq except to get worse. And given that, what's left?
First of all I agree that we should only resort to violence in the case of self-defense i.e. not being the the aggressor. However, when a bully is constantly threatening your existence, verbally lashing out at you for no reason other then your beliefs, I think we have a right to draw a line somewhere and warn that person to stop or else. Imagine if we hadn't prohibited GERMANY from being miltarized after the war was over? Could there have been a revival of the Nazi Party, seeing as they mostly survived and fled to foreign countries? Now, let's say Iran is being honest and only plans to use their nuclear power for hospitals and energy. If you were in Ahmadinejhads shoes, having enough uranium for energy & hospitals, wouldn't you think that at some point you would consider utilizing that energy for military purposes. I mean all these other world powers can defend themselves, why shouldn't we? It is this possibility that makes the US and Israel shudder. The Iranians HATE Israelis, Jews, and definitely The Great Satan America. When I say iranians do I mean every person in Iran? No, at least I really hope not…but it is frightening when you hear Ahmadinejhad spewing words of hate and hope of destruction for Israel…
"The Iranians HATE Israelis, Jews, and definitely The Great Satan America".
So much so that they allow Iranian Jews to travel to Israel and back. Unlike the Israelis who only allow Palestinians to leave. Officially, in Iran, there is no contact with Israel, but the dual nationality scam works a treat for Israelis. Iranian Jews travel to and from German (for example) on their Iranian passports and then to Israel and back on their Israeli passports.
Keep in mind that delaying any possible Iranian nuclear program may be enough, even if it causes them to actually start developing a weapon. It's only necessary to delay them long enough that the American public is ready for another major war, then Iran will be toast. Iran has to deter 100% of the time, those who want an invasion only have to find one point where the time is right.
There was no mention of the fact that Iran frequently threatens that they are going to eradicate Israel.
Israel is only a few minutes away from such a strike if it should occur. All it would take would a couple of nuclear devices and Israel and all its resident Arabs would be toast!
America would require an emp and/or nukes from both the Atlantic and Pacific sides to destroy our
infrastructure.
M Anderson
Re: “any strike on the Bushehr nuclear reactor will cause immediate death of thousands living in or adjacent to the site & thousands or even hundreds of thousands of subsequent (cancer) deaths depending on population density along the contamination plume.”
A question & observation for the prolife-contingent, flat-earther’s society:
When did ‘collaterals damaged’, (a phrase from G.Orwell’s Plausible-Deniability-Trial-Balloon-Rhetorical-Newspeak-Handbook), start being measured in the…
‘hundreds of thousands’?
It was of the order of several million, (men, woman, children & an unknown-# of zygotes, embryos & foetels, wanted/unwanted…), in Vietnam’s ‘Falling Domino’s-True-Believer’s Biblical-Reference; (See: Wm. Westmoreland, ‘General’ Editor, circa 1954-73)…
Re: “any strike on the Bushehr nuclear reactor will cause immediate death of thousands living in…etc.” {continued…)
As a retired urban (NYC) paramedic-&-‘out-sourced’ survivor…
Of the late, great 1 W.T.C. …
'Downsized' per (impending) ‘big-fish-eats-little-fish-in-the-corporate-pond’, (14.07.01)…
Said merger interrupted by intolerant-monotheist-proselytizing…responsible for the ‘Falling Man’ image …
I refuse to march in ANY ‘Triumph’, (in the ‘Roman’ sense), aka…
Homecoming parade…
Out of concern that someone MIGHT perceive my presence as, (‘moral / patriotic’), approval of…
Corporate pillaging!
Re 'Mess-‘O-Potamia’; (The Daily Show / J.Stewart!!);…Aka, ‘Iraq, etc.’!
As a paramedic…
A ‘pet’ mass-casualty-incident-nightmare was…
An airliner…vs .a N-fuel-cooling-pond or the U.S.N., New London, CT…
Home of mass.abortificient.systems, aka, ‘S.S.B.N.’s;
Meanwhile…
359 (pyroclastic-flow-pulverized…) coworkers sleep….
On burnt I-beam-bunks in Staten Island's landfill….
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with syria in civil war,it is the perfect time to strike!israel are our buddy's,yes they need us more than we need them,but you don't turn your back on longtime friend's.ide volunteer to fight next to the I.D.F.It would be an honor to do battle with some of the hardest men on earth!And against.These muslims do not fear death,they are hard mother fucker's,this will truly be a battle for the world survival.Strike now,they will only get stronger!
i prey for that this war never starts , this worlds need some peace by now and u people know that your brothers and sisters just died and fight for no reason in iraq and afganistan till now and again the usa and israil are planing to make one another big war on the middle east bigger than 2+ previous wars and still waited to make it happen if u like ur buddy's then do not just let them to go for another endless and useless war , this mater must be solved by the negotiations not another war!! wake up men ur not invincible!!!
Ok. Obama imposed a March 2012 deadline on Iran but what date in March?
Israel will never be completely destroyed again, though it will stay close to annilation for a time. The US will soon fail economically after this war with Iran that is sure to come. This country continues to stray from the God of the Bible and all countries/empires to do this have failed throughout all of human history. Jesus is the Way the Truth and the Life, none are brought into the fathers house except through him.
The only way to not get into war is. Sombody like Russia or China give Iran the bomb. And Iran must tell the world it has them and will use them if atacked. all it wants is left alone.
NO WAY Can US win it…foolish mistake…a draft will start, untold millions will die for oil. I pray the troops will just refuse to fight it. I WOULD!!!
We should have NUKED the F%%k out of Iran back in 1980!
Ok here's a tidbit of CLASSIFIED information. Iran has repeatedly called for Israels destruction and currently funds a terrorist group called Hezbollah to attack Israel. If I threaten to kill your family while I'm holding a shotgun are you going to take me for a bullshitter and try to tell me peace, love, and happiness is the answer? You will either crap your pants and cry like a baby or you will kill me. Wait I haven't pointed the gun at your wife yet so theres still time for diplomacy. I believe based on solid intel Iran means what its leaders are saying, "Israel will be wiped off the face of the earth" President Ahmadinejad of Iran.
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There will. never be a war.iran and israel are both escape goats.
no matter how big or. small the conflict neither side is willing
to risk it. these kind of drama is. for the average wanna be
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tough talks are nothing unusual in politics. Both sides are great.bluffers.
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