{"id":10646,"date":"2011-08-01T12:43:03","date_gmt":"2011-08-01T20:43:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/?p=10646"},"modified":"2011-08-01T12:44:18","modified_gmt":"2011-08-01T20:44:18","slug":"can-norway-avoid-adopting-a-post-911-mentality","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/2011\/08\/01\/can-norway-avoid-adopting-a-post-911-mentality\/","title":{"rendered":"Can Norway Avoid Adopting a Post-9\/11 Mentality?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/news.yahoo.com\/norwegians-call-tougher-laws-mass-killing-104400962.html\">Reuters<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Norwegians believe penalties for serious crimes in their country should be tightened in the wake of a shooting and bomb attack that killed 77 people in July, an opinion poll showed Monday.<\/p>\n<p>In a survey of 1,283 people conducted six days after the July 22 attack, 65.5 percent said the penalties were &#8220;too low&#8221; and only 23.8 percent believed they were suitable, newspaper Verdens Gang reported.<\/p>\n<p>Anders Behring Breivik, the 32-year old anti-Islamic immigration zealot who has confessed to the bombing in Oslo and shooting spree on a nearby island, has been charged by police with terrorism, which carries a sentence of up to 21 years.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Such reactions are understandable. Perhaps Norway&#8217;s notoriously lenient penal code should be toughened, though according to every source I&#8217;ve found, Norway has <a href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/news\/datablog\/2009\/oct\/13\/homicide-rates-country-murder-data\">one of the lowest homicide rates in the world<\/a>, under 1 per 100,000 population. When you&#8217;re that close to zero, the costs of lowering the stat may outweigh the benefits. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/norway_homicide.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/norway_homicide-258x300.jpg\" alt=\"The 1-and-Under Club: Homicides per 100,000 pop.\" title=\"The 1-and-Under Club: Homicides per 100,000 pop.\" width=\"258\" height=\"300\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-10648\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/norway_homicide-258x300.jpg 258w, https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/08\/norway_homicide.jpg 485w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 258px) 100vw, 258px\" \/><\/a> Whatever you believe about punishment, deterrence, rehabilitation, and the rest of criminology, you have to acknowledge the risks of overreacting to tragedies. For example:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Per Sandberg, chairman of the parliament&#8217;s Justice Committee, said stiffer sentencing will be on the agenda when party leaders resume debate on August 15.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I am sure when we come to August 15 the political discussion will be about sentences, <strong>searches by the police and everything else around this case<\/strong>,&#8221; Sandberg told Reuters.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;My party has always wanted that. I believe there will be new measures.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Here we have a politician already stretching the public&#8217;s demand for longer sentences into a mandate for increased surveillance and &#8220;everything else.&#8221; That politician, by the way, belongs to the right-wing Progress Party, which once counted Breivik among its members, so he&#8217;s hoping for a twofer: a chance to distance the party from the villain by calling for harsh punishment <em>and<\/em> an excuse to push through laws that his party &#8220;always wanted&#8221; \u2014 laws whose enforcement will probably fall hardest on the Norwegian Muslims whom Breivik hated. Nice.<\/p>\n<p>But Norway may not take <a href=\"http:\/\/www.salon.com\/news\/opinion\/glenn_greenwald\/2011\/07\/28\/norway\/index.html\">the path the United States charged down after 9\/11<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Justice Minister Knut Storberget told VG he was &#8220;not surprised&#8221; by the calls for stricter laws. &#8220;We must listen and have a debate, while not draw hasty conclusions&#8230; it&#8217;s important that policy isn&#8217;t shaped in a state of panic.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Hanne Marthe Narud, a political scientist at the University of Oslo, said Norway&#8217;s parliament is likely to stand against immediate public calls for harsher sentencing and more surveillance.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;A lot of these attitudes we see now are reflections of the terror event,&#8221; she told Reuters, referring to the VG poll.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t think the politicians will change legislation on this point as a spontaneous reaction. It may be considered, but there will be a broad debate first.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Norwegian diplomat Eirik Bergesen, who was in Washington, D.C., on 9\/11, wrote <a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.co.uk\/eirik-bergesen\/norway-is-passing-the-tes_b_908008.html?view=print\">the following<\/a> a week ago:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The typical step a society takes after a terrorist attack is towards stricter security measures. It happened after 9\/11 and has continued to happen in the US in the decade that is soon to have passed. Obviously, as a symbol of Western civilisation the US is a more prominent terrorist target, and concise parallels are difficult to draw. However, Norway has surprised foreign observers I have spoken to, and maybe even ourselves, in that we instead have managed to take a step back. Through careful reflection proving that there are other ways of maintaining order than merely through more rules and regulations. That increasing the social trust, in a society that already enjoys amongst the highest levels of social trust in the world, is a more rewarding option.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I hope that careful reflection prevails.  <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Reuters: Norwegians believe penalties for serious crimes in their country should be tightened in the wake of a shooting and bomb attack that killed 77 people in July, an opinion poll showed Monday. 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