{"id":12898,"date":"2011-11-21T14:30:45","date_gmt":"2011-11-21T22:30:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/?p=12898"},"modified":"2011-11-21T21:09:29","modified_gmt":"2011-11-22T05:09:29","slug":"david-frums-fatal-conceit","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/2011\/11\/21\/david-frums-fatal-conceit\/","title":{"rendered":"David Frum&#8217;s Fatal Conceit"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I know it&#8217;s bad form to follow up on my own post so quickly, but I fear that I may have shortchanged the enormity of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/2011\/11\/21\/david-frum\/\">the assertion<\/a>\u00a0that &#8220;For an Iraqi, there was no price too high to pay to rid the country of Saddam Hussein.&#8221; Allow me to riff a bit, with a nod to some of the commenters.<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/2011\/11\/21\/david-frums-fatal-conceit\/anendtoevil\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-12899\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-12899\" style=\"margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 5px;\" title=\"Christmas is right around the corner!\" src=\"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/11\/AnEndToEvil-197x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"197\" height=\"300\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nLet&#8217;s say that, in an instant, America \u2014 no, the whole world \u2014 could be magically remade into David Frum&#8217;s utopia. I don&#8217;t want to imagine what that would be like, and I probably wouldn&#8217;t live long enough to see much of it, but whatever. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/End-Evil-How-Win-Terror\/dp\/0345477170\/antiwarbookstore\">All the evils<\/a> that Frum deplores could be scrubbed from the planet, and for a relatively small price in the grand scheme of things: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.frumforum.com\/davidfrum\">his wife and three kids<\/a>. (This is not just some far-fetched philosophy-class hypothetical; numerous Iraqis have lost their entire families in the last eight years.)\u00a0Would Frum pay that price?<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t want to speak for him, but I strongly suspect that he would not. He&#8217;s not a robot, after all. He surely has normal human feelings for his own family. Faced with the prospect of any harm coming to them, he would likely accept the persistence of &#8220;evil&#8221; in the world and forgo Frumtopia. (He&#8217;s free to correct me on this in comments.)<\/p>\n<p>But Frum doesn&#8217;t hesitate to declare the lives of up to\u00a030 million other people an acceptable price. He doesn&#8217;t even linger over the matter: 18 words and he&#8217;s on to the next issue. Thirty million people. But he means well.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Sociopath&#8221; was far too vague a term for Frum. How about &#8220;genocidal maniac with a heart of gold&#8221;?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I know it&#8217;s bad form to follow up on my own post so quickly, but I fear that I may have shortchanged the enormity of the assertion\u00a0that &#8220;For an Iraqi, there was no price too high to pay to rid the country of Saddam Hussein.&#8221; Allow me to riff a bit, with a nod to [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":15,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"","_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[465,47],"tags":[],"coauthors":[],"class_list":["post-12898","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-david-frum","category-neocons"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"meta_box":{"disable_donate_message":"","custom_donate_message":"","subtitle":""},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12898","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/15"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=12898"}],"version-history":[{"count":31,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12898\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":12930,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12898\/revisions\/12930"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=12898"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=12898"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=12898"},{"taxonomy":"author","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/coauthors?post=12898"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}